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wasupaloopa

(4,516 posts)
Wed Jun 27, 2018, 05:18 PM Jun 2018

Steve Kornacki and Tweety fighting it out on MSNBC. Kornacki saying there is nothing the Dems can

do to block trumps nominee. Tweety saying there is, Tweety saying that if Dems go along with trumps nominee this time the party will implode.

Tweety saying some repubs will side with Dems on the vote to protect Roe v Wade.


Quite a shouting match

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Steve Kornacki and Tweety fighting it out on MSNBC. Kornacki saying there is nothing the Dems can (Original Post) wasupaloopa Jun 2018 OP
I hope someone's recording this. n/t cynatnite Jun 2018 #1
The Progressive wing won't stand for business as usual this time. democrank Jun 2018 #2
That time was 2016 RandySF Jun 2018 #10
We did fight in 2016 democrank Jun 2018 #14
The time to Fight was in 2016 is Right.. Joe Crowley has nothing to do with this Current Fucking Cha Jun 2018 #41
You're Absolutley right.. the time to fight was in 2016 and Not Cha Jun 2018 #42
I hope this isn't the prelude to Bernie Is The Answer. kstewart33 Jun 2018 #32
WTF is Tweety talking about? McConnell blew away the filibuster Azathoth Jun 2018 #3
He blew away the filibuster on SC noms, but whathehell Jun 2018 #7
Are we talking unanimous consent stuff? Azathoth Jun 2018 #16
+1, no ... no ... time to "fight" and type a lot on a keyboard and be angry and use some curse uponit7771 Jun 2018 #23
Steve was asking Tweety the tool to block the nomination. rickford66 Jun 2018 #4
I can't stand that idiot Kornacki...he irritates the hell out of me with Pachamama Jun 2018 #5
"some repubs will side with Dems on the vote to protect Roe v Wade" vi5 Jun 2018 #6
Tweety's right... I can't believe I'm saying this!! InAbLuEsTaTe Jun 2018 #8
Bullshit RandySF Jun 2018 #9
Yesssssssssssssssssss Chris!!! Kornaki is so weak. I'm glad Chris is taking a firm stand. trueblue2007 Jun 2018 #11
Doesn't he GET it? Kornaki is a gay man. Doesn't he realize what can happen to HIM if Trump CTyankee Jun 2018 #15
Is he gay? That is news to me. But yeah, gay people, POC, Trans people at risk. nt Blue_true Jun 2018 #18
This is just sad. All the progress we as a nation have had on social ills and rights deprivation... CTyankee Jun 2018 #19
Even when I was very young, I followed politics. Blue_true Jun 2018 #25
Tweety wouldn't shut up and listen to the question. Kornacki wanted to know if there was a Vinca Jun 2018 #12
Yes, there is a way to slow the seante to a slow crawl DeminPennswoods Jun 2018 #26
He always talks over people. progressoid Jun 2018 #28
Tweety flew off the rails earlier dgibby Jun 2018 #35
Tweetys had enough MFM008 Jun 2018 #13
Tweety was ballistic on Ali Velshi's show earlier, too. spiderpig Jun 2018 #20
I have no use for Kornacki spanone Jun 2018 #17
I don't know...if any Repubs will side with Democrats...but we could try. Demsrule86 Jun 2018 #21
Message auto-removed Name removed Jun 2018 #22
When I see two first posts in a row about leaving USA, I go hmmm. Bernardo de La Paz Jun 2018 #24
fuck kornacki stupid republican piece of shit. onecaliberal Jun 2018 #27
I'd ask tweety to name the Rs wryter2000 Jun 2018 #29
We need a Mueller indictment with hard evidence NOW still_one Jun 2018 #30
I don't watch Kornacki. I have shows I can watch whenever I want. LiberalFighter Jun 2018 #31
try watching him gyrate jodymarie aimee Jun 2018 #33
he's like an agitated preying mantis eShirl Jun 2018 #38
McCain. Flake. Murkowski. Corker. Tatiana Jun 2018 #34
I think you're right. Expect nothing. OnDoutside Jun 2018 #40
Days like this, I depend on Melber, Maddow and O'Donnell. spooky3 Jun 2018 #36
It's going to have to be a Maddow and O'Donnell night for me... HipChick Jun 2018 #39
You're portraying the interview incorrectly. Music Man Jun 2018 #37

Cha

(298,166 posts)
41. The time to Fight was in 2016 is Right.. Joe Crowley has nothing to do with this Current Fucking
Wed Jun 27, 2018, 08:07 PM
Jun 2018
CRAP.



Here's PA's NUMBERS.. thanks to BumRushDaShow

CLINTON, HILLARY
(DEM)
47.85%
Votes: 2,926,441
Running mate: TIM KAINE

TRUMP, DONALD J
(REP)
48.58%
Votes: 2,970,733
Running mate: MICHAEL R PENCE

DIFFERENCE = 44,292 <---

https://electionreturns.pa.gov/General/SummaryResults?ElectionID=54&ElectionType=G&IsActive=0

THIRD PARTY


CASTLE, DARRELL L
(CON)
0.35%
Votes: 21,572
Running mate: SCOTT N BRADLEY

STEIN, JILL
(GRN)
0.82%
Votes: 49,941 <---
Running mate: AJAMU BARAKA

JOHNSON, GARY E
(LIB)
2.40%
Votes: 146,715
Running mate: WILLIAM WELD

TOTAL 3RD PARTY = 218,228

https://electionreturns.pa.gov/General/SummaryResults?ElectionID=54&ElectionType=G&IsActive=0


Oh and here's dumbshit Sarandon.. Not a damn brain in her head..

Nurse Jackie



Mahalo for this, PunkinPi

kstewart33

(6,551 posts)
32. I hope this isn't the prelude to Bernie Is The Answer.
Wed Jun 27, 2018, 06:57 PM
Jun 2018

If we go far left, we lose the independents and moderate Dems which presently comprise about half of the party.

You want to see what hell really looks like? Trump's years as the re-elected president.

Azathoth

(4,611 posts)
3. WTF is Tweety talking about? McConnell blew away the filibuster
Wed Jun 27, 2018, 05:21 PM
Jun 2018

Who gives a shit what Senate Dems think or how they vote? They're irrelevant.

Azathoth

(4,611 posts)
16. Are we talking unanimous consent stuff?
Wed Jun 27, 2018, 05:33 PM
Jun 2018

I just don't see that lasting very long. Even in theory, it will only delay things for a short time (unless Democrats start applying it to non-related business and effectively shut down the Senate).

uponit7771

(90,378 posts)
23. +1, no ... no ... time to "fight" and type a lot on a keyboard and be angry and use some curse
Wed Jun 27, 2018, 06:05 PM
Jun 2018

... words but nothing to change what's going to happen with Kennedy's replacement.

I'm sick of people being angry and not progressing anything, its wasted energy

rickford66

(5,536 posts)
4. Steve was asking Tweety the tool to block the nomination.
Wed Jun 27, 2018, 05:21 PM
Jun 2018

Tweety wasn't answering the question and kept saying the Dems have to block it.

Pachamama

(16,888 posts)
5. I can't stand that idiot Kornacki...he irritates the hell out of me with
Wed Jun 27, 2018, 05:23 PM
Jun 2018

...his neurotic hyperactive mannerism and he is not even able to discuss issue properly.

Tweety was pissed and Kornacki was such an idiot and ass kisser and clueless that it was a good thing tweety was in another studio because he was ready to punch Kornacki and make him just STFU

CTyankee

(63,935 posts)
15. Doesn't he GET it? Kornaki is a gay man. Doesn't he realize what can happen to HIM if Trump
Wed Jun 27, 2018, 05:33 PM
Jun 2018

gets to appoint an anti-gay rights justice to the high court?

CTyankee

(63,935 posts)
19. This is just sad. All the progress we as a nation have had on social ills and rights deprivation...
Wed Jun 27, 2018, 05:41 PM
Jun 2018

I don't know how we as a nation will recover with such a RW staffed court.

I am now worried about Ruth Bader Ginsburg....will she now just give up?

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
25. Even when I was very young, I followed politics.
Wed Jun 27, 2018, 06:41 PM
Jun 2018

I remember the early 80s with Reagan in office and the 6-3 conservative rulings. People EXOECTED Roe v Wade to be repealed then, it didn't happen.

My guess? Most gay teens will stay in the closet and head for a blue state as soon as they can. Young females that value choice will do the same. Red states will lose a lot of their best minds and continue to fall father behind blue states economically and socially.

Vinca

(50,343 posts)
12. Tweety wouldn't shut up and listen to the question. Kornacki wanted to know if there was a
Wed Jun 27, 2018, 05:29 PM
Jun 2018

procedural tactic Democrats could use, but Tweety kept talking over him. That's the question I want answered.

DeminPennswoods

(15,307 posts)
26. Yes, there is a way to slow the seante to a slow crawl
Wed Jun 27, 2018, 06:45 PM
Jun 2018

All Dems, really only 1 Dem or I Ind, have to do is object to motions for unanimous consent. Everything would need a roll call vote and herding senators to vote takes time. No business would be transacted.

Dems could also start selectively leaking what they know about Trump and Russia and election tampering.

progressoid

(50,034 posts)
28. He always talks over people.
Wed Jun 27, 2018, 06:49 PM
Jun 2018

People on his show rarely get to finish a thought. I've stopped watching him.

dgibby

(9,474 posts)
35. Tweety flew off the rails earlier
Wed Jun 27, 2018, 06:58 PM
Jun 2018

on other programs. Loud, obnoxious, hogging the mic, talking over everyone, not listening to anyone, talking over the hosts. He'd have gone nuts if somebody had done that on his program.

spiderpig

(10,419 posts)
20. Tweety was ballistic on Ali Velshi's show earlier, too.
Wed Jun 27, 2018, 05:45 PM
Jun 2018

I wonder if he'll get through Hardball before being carted off to intensive care.

He's reached new Tweety heights of outrage.

Demsrule86

(68,873 posts)
21. I don't know...if any Repubs will side with Democrats...but we could try.
Wed Jun 27, 2018, 05:49 PM
Jun 2018

But I am not holding out hope.

Response to wasupaloopa (Original post)

Bernardo de La Paz

(49,090 posts)
24. When I see two first posts in a row about leaving USA, I go hmmm.
Wed Jun 27, 2018, 06:05 PM
Jun 2018

Lot more give-up-ism and less backbone than I know Democrats are capable of.

You are welcome here, but we are about fighting fascism and ultra-conners, not abandoning the USA.

LiberalFighter

(51,405 posts)
31. I don't watch Kornacki. I have shows I can watch whenever I want.
Wed Jun 27, 2018, 06:53 PM
Jun 2018

And that is what I do when he is on. He is a wackadoo that should be muzzled.

 

jodymarie aimee

(3,975 posts)
33. try watching him gyrate
Wed Jun 27, 2018, 06:57 PM
Jun 2018

with the sound off....I was meditating the other day and opened my eyes...Lordy!!

Tatiana

(14,167 posts)
34. McCain. Flake. Murkowski. Corker.
Wed Jun 27, 2018, 06:57 PM
Jun 2018

Collins won't go against Trump (or McConnell).

And for starters, no unanimous consent for ANYTHING. Grind the Senate to a halt, unless we can guarantee 2 Republicans will flip.

spooky3

(34,543 posts)
36. Days like this, I depend on Melber, Maddow and O'Donnell.
Wed Jun 27, 2018, 07:10 PM
Jun 2018

I also find Steve Schmidt and Nicolle Wallace helpful though they aren’t as good at sorting things out legally or explaining the historical precedents.

Music Man

(1,184 posts)
37. You're portraying the interview incorrectly.
Wed Jun 27, 2018, 07:13 PM
Jun 2018

If it's the exchange in the video on the main page now, then Matthews is quite dickish to Kornacki, in my opinion. Matthews' passion about blocking this nominee is right, but Kornacki is simply asking him what the path forward is, NOT saying that there's nothing the Dems can do.

Kornacki is just asking what the strategy is for the 49-member Democratic caucus to pick off two Republican votes, and Matthews just says, "THE DEMOCRATIC BASE WON'T ALLOW IT IF THE DEMOCRATIC LEADERSHIP GIVES IN!" So Kornacki asks what the tool is to delay this nomination, and Matthews says he's not a parliamentarian. Much ado about nothing.

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