Huh.

At the convention ?

It was the ones at any of Clinton's rallies that no one reported on:

….and actually called that by a surrogate in front of thousands of kids.

But I voted for Hillary and will not agree with him in this.

I’m not a blind follower and never will be.

1) Rudeness is not helpful

2) Focus your anger on elections.

I have not read anything on this by Hillary Clinton, but it is reasonably similar to what Bill Clinton said.

a restaurant then of course we must agree completely? We should be nice to her and the rest of these heartless. would be fascists telling Mothers they will never see their kids again? Um no...Sen. Sanders is wrong on this issue. SHS should be shown that there is no place in decent society for a person like her...a liar and a helper in the kidnapping of children...and enabler of Fascist Trump. This isn't an ordinary president...he is truly evil.

difference. He never said she shouldn't have been asked to leave. Personally, I don't care how she acted. I despise just like Trump.

This is what he said:

“But I think you can’t foment as much hatred as has been fomented by the administration without having a blowback. So if they want to have civility, they have to stop the name-calling and take the lead.”

He lays it all at the feet of Trump.

Mahalo, emulatorloo

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I'm wouldn't waste a second defending her

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I can't believe anyone would not be upset about the kids, the judges...etc..he is supposed to be so progressive. I don't get it.

He will gracefully support the nominee and talk his people down.

Not sure if he actually “slammed” the restaurant that booted SHS but he should be able to pivot off this better than he did. Maybe doesn’t support the folks vocally shaming Kirsten Nielsen at the Mexican restaurant either.

Seriously. Bernie is not a Democrat. Can we PLEASE stop pretending he’s anything more than a Trump enabler?

that too? I mean they had a whole thread.

And also the way Sanders handled it at the time it happened. He didn’t shit all over the owner, like Bernie did.

Here’s what he said:



“But I think you can’t foment as much hatred as has been fomented by the administration without having a blowback. So if they want to have civility, they have to stop the name-calling and take the lead.”

I disagree with some of the things you say and do, but I figure it's best to stay in my own lane, and let you do your thing. I've got plenty on my plate, already without policing what my allies are doing. I'm also nobody, and if I used what little platform I had nobody would care.

You, on the other hand? Well, let's just say you should take the opportunity to shut up a little more when it presents itself. The oppressed are oppressed plenty without you dog-piling on when they get a chance to stand up for themselves.

They all serve at the president's leisure.

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Finished his sentence for him.

Truly sad how desperate Bernie still is for Trumpers to love him.

And, so obvious.

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... share your views.

Let's hear these "constructive ways".

opens his mouth at the worst possible time and looses thousands of possible future votes.



Only!!! 2018 - 2020.

Different day, same Sanders.

Only!!! 2018 - 2020.

Same no that i give every member of the civility police.

No.

She, as the spokeswoman for the Trump Administration, lies, misleads and obfuscates every time she speaks. She lies for an administration that is criminal. She is aiding and abetting criminals. So, she was understandably asked to leave a restaurant.

Enough already with the "political differences" shit. Republicans aren't simply expressing a different opinion about the role of government, for instance. They are actively destroying lives and breaking laws for their personal gain. They're aspiring Nazis for fuck's sake.

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to him.

He didn't mind a bit when it happened in Las Vegas and what Barbara Boxer went through was far worse than not getting a burrito.

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and I keep insisting that they're right.

all right.

ucr:

He’s making up details to justify his criticism. I don’t like that tactic.

just don't know it or have clue one.

The Red Hen owner is right. Stop defending decorum and do something about Donald Trump.

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As Donald Trump lies and his anti-immigrant smears turn into child abuse, you can act like it's normal or, like the owner of the Red Hen, you can do something about it.

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This near perfect example of misguided rage from the president’s backers has not stopped the civility police from leaping to the defense of our precious decorum. Nor has another pointed Trump attack on a private business, or his near daily Twitter missiles aimed at due process, the rule of law and special counsel Robert Mueller's Russia investigation

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The problem is these critics are doing exactly what Trump’s fans did. They're attacking those with no power for trying to make their voices heard amid the shrill screams of the biggest demagogue ever to sit in the Oval Office. They're aiming their rhetorical eggs in the wrong direction.

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The fear of giving Trump exactly what he wants and thus empowering him into even greater horrors is often used as a cudgel. Critics use it to bash almost anyone who makes the brave decision to risk rebuke from the most powerful man in the world — a man who wields that power the way a 2-year-old wields a rattle — and his rabid fans.

These lecturers imagine that a measured, monotone Jeb Bush-like response to the Trump administration will make this all stop somehow.

More..
https://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2018/06/25/red-hen-owner-right-forget-decorum-stop-donald-trump-column/731475002/

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On MSNBC on Wednesday, former democrat presidential candidate Sen. Bernie Sanders defended White House Press Secretary Sarah Huckabee Sanders on the currently dominant political topic of civility in politics.

“Look, as I’ve said before, yeah, I think people have the right to go into a restaurant and have dinner,” said Sanders (Bernie) about Saunders (Sarah) being kicked out of a restaurant with her family over political differences.

Host Kristen Welker was asking the Vermont senator about the lack of civility in general at first, and he said he’s “not a great fan of shouting down people or being rude to people,” but that people have a right to be angry.

https://www.mediaite.com/tv/bernie-sanders-defends-sarah-sanders-people-have-a-right-to-go-to-a-restaurant-for-dinner/

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Thank You for making this an OP, pnwmom.. I'm sure Stephanie Wilkinson is real broke up about this.

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Jesus Christ, dude, focus.

The Hill chums the waters and the usual suspects vapor lock.

the indefensible. Too bad it's a fucking badge of honor coming from "the usual suspect".

He is always civil. Always. One of the things supporters respected.

Screw them - whomever they may be.
There is no more appeasement.
We are under the imminent threat of becoming a fascist society.
We must fight with all of our might against anyone who supports fascism.
Just retire, Bernie - it's over for you.

Bah bah Bernie sheep
You don't have me fooled
No sir, no sir
You're going to get schooled

He just wants to make sure he can still reach across the aisle. It's easier to undermine your own people than it is to fight back when you're at the top.

The days when multiple posters scoured the news to find tidbits to post that cast Hillary in a negative light lie in the past here. I'm not saying it never happens, but not frequently - at least compared to the constant hunt for negative spin Sanders news to promote and repeatedly bump on DU now. Hillary bashing once was familiar on DU, but not for quite a while.

Then has the unmitigated audacity to hijack the Democratic candidacy.

with his economics-only, identity-politics-free-zero-calories message.

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to eat in peace?

It's so special.. he's saying "over political differences".. but that's NOT what this is about. And, he should damn well know that.

"Bernie Sanders Defends Sarah Sanders: People Have a Right To Go to a Restaurant for Dinner"

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On MSNBC on Wednesday, former democrat presidential candidate Sen. Bernie Sanders defended White House Press Secretary Sarah Huckabee Sanders on the currently dominant political topic of civility in politics.

“Look, as I’ve said before, yeah, I think people have the right to go into a restaurant and have dinner,” said Sanders (Bernie) about Saunders (Sarah) being kicked out of a restaurant with her family over political differences.

Host Kristen Welker was asking the Vermont senator about the lack of civility in general at first, and he said he’s “not a great fan of shouting down people or being rude to people,” but that people have a right to be angry.

https://www.mediaite.com/tv/bernie-sanders-defends-sarah-sanders-people-have-a-right-to-go-to-a-restaurant-for-dinner/

Only it wasn't over "political differences" as BS asserts.

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Interesting. He barely said a peep after his most strident supporters became increasingly violent in 2016.

He didn't say shit.

he slams a small business owner who is bravely standing against an administration that has placed children in cages? What exactly does his idea of a revolution consist of?

I can wait...



Only!!! 2018 - 2020.

this kind of behavior is going to blowback on Dems and it will be ugly.

I am wondering what blowback will be happening?

I think an important part of the Huckabee Sanders story is always missing when people disagree w/ the owner. She did not shout. She took Sanders to the patio and kindly asked her to leave rather than embarrass her in front of other guests. She let her staff (several of whom are gay) vote on the action. She supported her gay staff by not forcing them to be in the presence of a woman who supports discrimination against them. At least that how I understand it went down.

it’s a hars decision to make if you have a business to maintain and employees to pay.

That type of place would not have brought in many republicans and especially not the maga types that you see at trump rallies and are most angry over this.

Definitely the type of place liberals living anywhere near should make a concerted effort to have lunch or dinner at as often as possible.

The owner said that they are completely booked for the next three weeks. Whether that means anything in the long term is unknown, but I doubt that many restaurants in that area have that long of a waiting list.

the silly part about this is that others in Democratic leadership have stated this point (& even gone further) and yet we don't get the "fuck you" posts related to those individuals.. curious that

The issue was morals, a person was eating there that would discriminate against several of her employees without a second thought. THE SITUATION WAS ABOUT PURE MORAL CONVICTIONS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

They HAVE done it and continue to do it, Bernie Sanders seem intentionally blind to that fact. Those people's idea of a fair fight is us having our hands tied behind our backs while they punch us with all their might, NO MORE, if if Bernie wants to side with them, let him, he just won't lead most of us.

to destroy the Democrats so his massive ego can be massaged again.

stop the nonsense..

He applauded Sanders for handling it on the spot. He did not say the owner was wrong is stating her moral convictions. Bernie is saying the owner is wrong, and making her out to be some angry lunatic.

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as I disagree with Pelosi & Schumer on this issue as well..

Nicely done.

He is just stating his concept of how he would like things done.

Bernie in a Superman suit with big muscles flying to kick the bad guy's ass.

Make a speech about his supporters nearly rioting in Nevada and physically intimidating the party chair there and a US Senator, and a legendary civil rights activist?

Why didn't he make a speech about his supporters literally yelling at and physically intimidation peaceful rival supporters?

Why didn't he make a speech about his supporters nearly rioting in the streets around the DNC convention and them booing a civil rights legend, female political leaders and a four star General inside the convention?

Bernie talking about decorum when the owner showed perfect decorum, while Bernie did NOTHING to stop gross violations of decorum in the recent past is pure bullshit!!!

Before the convention ended, he was gone and would not come back until October, the peaceful rivals were in California, supporters had to walk through a gauntlet of insults, threats, name calling, and physical intimidation.

He stood up on the convention floor and told supporters to stop the booing and to support Clinton because she had to be President. But, apparently, that wasn't enough.

In response to Nevada, he unequivocally said that protests needed to be nonviolent and respectful. But he is then responsible for those that don't listen to him.

Hope your Sanders hate solves the problems we have with Trump.

I want to see someone else as our nominee is 2020, but if Bernie somehow gets the nomination, I will fully back him because the alternative at that point will be wholly unacceptable.

Sure.

...told about it in private.

It wasn't about political differences, either.

He owes Stephanie Wilkinson an apology.

Thanks, Me

any more than the other one can stop tweeting

Otherwise, he is as silent as a statue. One good thing that I noticed yeaterday in a picture at one of his book signings was there were two people that were clearly unimpressed by what he was saying, among the fawning ones. That is good, two people that support him showed up and then thought "what is this bullshit?".

is that there wasn't very many more than 2 people attending

from Trevor Noah on "civility".. good stuff

...petitioned their boss, collectively bargained with their boss, took a collective vote, and then the boss went out on behalf of the workers and quietly asked Sarah Hucks to leave the premises.

Isn't this course of action something that should make his old heart go pitty-pat?

no clue what actually happened before he got on the civility police bandwagon.

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White House insult also have rights.

at the important details or he didn't care.

Anyway he blew it.

Eat a dick and go away. Your 15 minites ended awhile ago.

Threatening B-Box, and Jeff Weaver claiming she wasn't really scared (We don't need a man to tell us how we feel when a bunch of men are acting like animals because they aren't getting their way).

Screaming and women and children leaving a Hillary rally.

Susan Sarandon calling us vagina voters at his campaign rallies. Trying to make a joke out of our votes. Making our votes less than.

Throwing dollar bills at Hillary. Calling her a whore.

Booing John Lewis.

Susan Sarandon getting into Dolorse Huerta, a civil rights leader, and treating her like her help.

Women and POC, especially WOC, being harassed online...called cunts and other awful names.

At the convention, booing many WOC.

I'm not refighting 2016, I'm showing that he really doesn't have a problem with out right awful behavior if it benefits him. We have and administration that is caging children and babies, telling businesses that not serving LGBTQ is OK, doing so much that is an affront to sensible people, and he's worried about Sarah's fee fee's. He has proven that he is fine with doing far worse to people who he is supposedly siding with.

Truth Bomb!

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