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George II

(67,782 posts)
Thu Jan 3, 2019, 11:56 AM Jan 2019

Sanders contrite as 2016 aides face harassment allegations

Source: Sacramento Bee

JANUARY 03, 2019 05:51 AM, UPDATED 46 MINUTES AGO

NEW YORK

Vermont Sen. Bernie Sanders and his chief lieutenants are offering contrition as some of his 2016 campaign staffers face allegations of sexual harassment that threaten to derail a second White House bid before it begins.

Hours after a New York Times report detailed allegations of unwanted sexual advances and pay inequity on his first campaign, Sanders apologized late Wednesday "to any woman who felt that she was not treated appropriately."

"Of course, if I run again, we will do better next time," Sanders told CNN.

Yet there were immediate signs that the allegations, which did not directly involve Sanders, could hurt the self-described democratic socialist's 2020 ambitions in the midst of the #MeToo era. In the wake of the report, some Democratic activists and operatives complained about the aggressive culture during the first campaign when male staffers and supporters were sometimes labeled "Bernie bros."

Read more: https://www.sacbee.com/latest-news/article223861240.html

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Sanders contrite as 2016 aides face harassment allegations (Original Post) George II Jan 2019 OP
Enough. calimary Jan 2019 #1
There is no room for this aberrant behavior in the Democratic party. DemocratSinceBirth Jan 2019 #2
"Of course, if I run a again, we will do better next time". oasis Jan 2019 #3
I am sure that the Russians have hacked emails from his campaign. Blue_true Jan 2019 #26
This is why I have no patience with those who insist that Hillary was vulnerable because "baggage" EffieBlack Jan 2019 #45
That's really something his campaign should consider. nt oasis Jan 2019 #47
YUCK ..... HIS STATEMENT "if I run again" ..... that makes me sick to my stomach trueblue2007 Jan 2019 #29
He's Toast, between this and the John Lewis DNC incident njhoneybadger Jan 2019 #32
I favor candidates who get it right the first time. oasis Jan 2019 #44
That would make a great campaign bumper sticker n/t emulatorloo Jan 2019 #36
And a "no show" of tax returns. Bring on the debates. nt oasis Jan 2019 #46
Pay Inequity? Me. Jan 2019 #4
Yo, Sanders...pffffffft. Guilded Lilly Jan 2019 #5
taxes and join the Democratic party ........... stonecutter357 Jan 2019 #6
I have routinely called for and provided UNCONDITIONAL support to get Democrats Eliot Rosewater Jan 2019 #7
Ahh, the smell of . . . peggysue2 Jan 2019 #8
"to any woman who felt that she was not treated appropriately." Me. Jan 2019 #10
Hummmm peggysue2 Jan 2019 #15
And... Me. Jan 2019 #16
+1, this sure puts a lot of the rhetoric into question. R B Garr Jan 2019 #18
No Longer Me. Jan 2019 #25
"some Democratic activists and operatives complained about R B Garr Jan 2019 #9
Had no control over his campaign...and he wants to be president? cynatnite Jan 2019 #11
This. nt Quayblue Jan 2019 #20
That was one of the things that was noted. Blue_true Jan 2019 #27
That was a shit "apology." I've been very disillusioned by Bernie. lilactime Jan 2019 #12
I dislike this style of non-apology. yardwork Jan 2019 #13
Why now? Why not two years ago? roody Jan 2019 #14
Because the 24 staffers have Cha Jan 2019 #17
And the events took place roody Jan 2019 #19
If you read the letter they say because Cha Jan 2019 #22
In other words, in campaign season. roody Jan 2019 #24
I can see you're not taking the Cha Jan 2019 #37
Why is that question always asked to dismiss the validity of what women say happened? Blue_true Jan 2019 #28
Because the timing is suspicious. roody Jan 2019 #39
Most women that are put in that position hesitate until something happens that force them forward. Blue_true Jan 2019 #40
Did they miss the me too movement? roody Jan 2019 #41
Did Dr. Ford miss the movement? Blue_true Jan 2019 #42
The LA Times first reported the allegations in 2017. lapucelle Jan 2019 #49
Now is the best time. These women obviously still support him. KitSileya Jan 2019 #33
Dispicable. Cha Jan 2019 #38
Some went public in early 2017. lapucelle Jan 2019 #50
The LA Times began reporting on the allegations in late March 2017. lapucelle Jan 2019 #48
The allegations were made public two years ago, in March 2017. The LA Times reported the story. lapucelle Jan 2019 #51
"Yeahbut" George II Jan 2019 #53
I wonder if it may have been due to inaction that the letter was made available to the media. lapucelle Jan 2019 #54
This message was self-deleted by its author elocs Jan 2019 #21
Ruh roh. cwydro Jan 2019 #23
YUCK. THIS MAKES ME JUST PUKE. trueblue2007 Jan 2019 #30
It's always bothered me too. cwydro Jan 2019 #31
Bernie, enough already. It's all about his ego... SCRUBDASHRUB Jan 2019 #34
I've never seen Bernie express actual contrition for any of his sins... comradebillyboy Jan 2019 #35
Neither have I. I don't think that I have ever heard him say that he was wrong about a condition Blue_true Jan 2019 #43
I voted for Bernie in my state primary. After this I wouldn't do it again. 50 Shades Of Blue Jan 2019 #52

calimary

(81,608 posts)
1. Enough.
Thu Jan 3, 2019, 12:03 PM
Jan 2019

With all due respect to an elder statesman, you had your chance Bernie. And you made your statement. Enough.

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
26. I am sure that the Russians have hacked emails from his campaign.
Thu Jan 3, 2019, 11:31 PM
Jan 2019

And kept silent because keeping silent was in their best interests. Don't expect them to keep silent if Bernie wins our nomination, there will be wikileaks out of nowhere.

 

EffieBlack

(14,249 posts)
45. This is why I have no patience with those who insist that Hillary was vulnerable because "baggage"
Sat Jan 5, 2019, 12:48 AM
Jan 2019

while Bernie - or any other candidate - would have wiped the floor with Trump because he had no such baggage.

Like every other politician, Bernie has baggage - and he seems to have more than most. The fact that it wasn't thrown in his face was not evidence of his invincibility, but rather proof that they didn't take him seriously enough to bother using it against him.

trueblue2007

(17,250 posts)
29. YUCK ..... HIS STATEMENT "if I run again" ..... that makes me sick to my stomach
Thu Jan 3, 2019, 11:42 PM
Jan 2019

DO. NOT. EVEN. THINK. THAT.


And anyway, Bernie isn't a democrat is he. Dems better not let him run as he isn't even a DEMOCRAT !!!!!

njhoneybadger

(3,910 posts)
32. He's Toast, between this and the John Lewis DNC incident
Fri Jan 4, 2019, 12:37 AM
Jan 2019

"If I run again" Sounds like something tRump would say

Me.

(35,454 posts)
4. Pay Inequity?
Thu Jan 3, 2019, 12:18 PM
Jan 2019

Shameful and certainly not walking his 'talk'. I bet Jane's daughter wasn't a victim of pay inequity.

Eliot Rosewater

(31,151 posts)
7. I have routinely called for and provided UNCONDITIONAL support to get Democrats
Thu Jan 3, 2019, 01:36 PM
Jan 2019

ELECTED.

Now that they are in office, they have to do their jobs and most will.

As to this guy, sigh is all I have.

If?

peggysue2

(10,853 posts)
8. Ahh, the smell of . . .
Thu Jan 3, 2019, 01:56 PM
Jan 2019

confessions in the morning! From accusations that we were fantasizing online abuse in 2016 to admitting that the abuse occurred. It's indeed a step forward but 'we'll do better next time' rings hollow.

It's all about supporting our Democratic candidates and ultimately our nominee in 2020. That's how we save the country. As for derailing a 2020 White House bid? That train has already left the station.

Me.

(35,454 posts)
10. "to any woman who felt that she was not treated appropriately."
Thu Jan 3, 2019, 04:25 PM
Jan 2019

Really...any woman who felt.....

peggysue2

(10,853 posts)
15. Hummmm
Thu Jan 3, 2019, 05:32 PM
Jan 2019

Classic non-apology/apology: we didn't do anything wrong but if you feel that you were offended/abused, we're sorry.

Brittle, hollow. Too late. Wa-a-ay too late.

And this on the back of refusing to admit there was a problem in real time, accusing women of making it all up because we 'were voting with our vaginas.'

That's not something you forget.

R B Garr

(17,019 posts)
18. +1, this sure puts a lot of the rhetoric into question.
Thu Jan 3, 2019, 07:50 PM
Jan 2019

Double standards — only Democrats are held accountable for what he claims are his ideas or standards, but he’s exempted.

R B Garr

(17,019 posts)
9. "some Democratic activists and operatives complained about
Thu Jan 3, 2019, 02:25 PM
Jan 2019

the aggressive culture...”

YES, that aggressive culture was very evident even from his senior staffers like Jeff Weaver, who just oozed it on TV. I’m sure his demeanor was emulated.....

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
27. That was one of the things that was noted.
Thu Jan 3, 2019, 11:37 PM
Jan 2019

Issues kept cropping up and Bernie always seem to wash his hands of them.

Cha

(298,087 posts)
22. If you read the letter they say because
Thu Jan 3, 2019, 09:18 PM
Jan 2019

they don't want the same thing happening if he runs again.

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
28. Why is that question always asked to dismiss the validity of what women say happened?
Thu Jan 3, 2019, 11:42 PM
Jan 2019

We are finding out that some women DID complain and got blacklisted.

Not all women that work with abusers get abused, a woman may not strike their fancy, not intended as an insult, just Behavior that I have noticed men like that show.

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
40. Most women that are put in that position hesitate until something happens that force them forward.
Fri Jan 4, 2019, 03:45 PM
Jan 2019

Maybe if Bernie didn't look like he is planning to run again, the women would have quietly endured suffering over what happened to them. But with Bernie looking like he surely will run, they seem to have been forced forward. Dr. Ford took something like 25 years to go public with charges against Brett Kavanaugh, the long wait did not make one millisecond of what she said untrue, him being elevated to the highest court in the land was more than she could tolerate.

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
42. Did Dr. Ford miss the movement?
Fri Jan 4, 2019, 10:04 PM
Jan 2019

The movement was over two years old when she stood up against Kavanaugh. You seem to be trying to set special disclosure conditions for the women that are talking about issues in Bernie's 2016 campaign, that is what dismays me. Some women that have been assaulted may never come forward, all of us have read stories about women admitting that they were sexually assaulted on their deathbeds. Most of the stuff around Bernie's campaign seem to be inappropriate language, but some women have said actual assaults took place and were ignored by higher ups. Maybe Bernie knew absolutely nothing about what was happening, but in that case, once should question his management and leadership abilities.

KitSileya

(4,035 posts)
33. Now is the best time. These women obviously still support him.
Fri Jan 4, 2019, 12:50 AM
Jan 2019

They want him to do better for 2020, now that he's hinting at running again, but they made sure to wait to go public until after his 2018 re-election campaign, so they didn't hurt that. Why now is because now is the least harmful time for Sanders, yet the best time for these women to expect an amelioration in the future.

Of course, according at least one accuser, Sanders knew in 2016, and instead of anything happening, she was blacklisted, and Jane Sanders welcomed this woman's harasser with open arms to the Gathering last Nowember. The others were perhaps afraid of simlar consequences if they went public in 2016.

lapucelle

(18,411 posts)
48. The LA Times began reporting on the allegations in late March 2017.
Sun Jan 6, 2019, 09:56 AM
Jan 2019
Congressional candidate and former Bernie Sanders campaign staffer Arturo Carmona denied accusations of sexism leveled at him Friday by a former staffer and backed up by two prominent Sanders surrogates.

Masha Mendieta, a former Latino outreach strategist for the Sanders presidential campaign, made multiple allegations against Carmona in a Medium post Friday, saying Carmona didn't adequately address a complaint of sexual harassment, treated female staffers unfairly and was a poor manager who used campaign funds inappropriately.

https://www.latimes.com/politics/essential/la-pol-ca-essential-politics-updates-congressional-candidate-arturo-carmona-1491016048-htmlstory.html

lapucelle

(18,411 posts)
54. I wonder if it may have been due to inaction that the letter was made available to the media.
Sun Jan 6, 2019, 11:21 AM
Jan 2019

I wonder why this story didn't gain any traction in the press when it was first reported two years ago.

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cwydro

(51,308 posts)
23. Ruh roh.
Thu Jan 3, 2019, 09:27 PM
Jan 2019

Didn’t he once write rape fantasy type books/stories?

Attitude in any organization comes from the top. Smh.

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
43. Neither have I. I don't think that I have ever heard him say that he was wrong about a condition
Fri Jan 4, 2019, 10:10 PM
Jan 2019

or a vote.

Late in his life, Ted Kennedy said that he really regretted being a roadblock when a republican president (either Nixon or Ford) proposed a form of national healthcare. His regret was that though not what he believed should have happen, if national Heathcare was implemented at that time many people who died may have been saved. To me, that is contrition.

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