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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsBottom line: Trump is on strike until taxpayers build a massive monument to him in the desert
800,000 federal workers without a paycheck (many of whom voted for him). 40 million food stamp recipients out of food (many of whom voted for him), millions of tax refund recipients out of pocket (many of whom voted for him).
Sorry, folks! Fuck you until you cough up five billion for a feckless construction project that has no purpose other than for Trump to put his name on and say I did that.
Look on his works, ye mighty, and despair.
Cha
(298,077 posts)It's perfect for what's happening.
Thank You, EarlG
FredsterKathy
(5 posts)More should be made of the fact that $5 billion would not even cover the engineering for a border wall. The final cost for engineering, land acquisition, relocation of persons and property, construction and other details could reach $100 billion. Then there is the maintenance and repair where the wall gets damaged, blown up, defaced and tunneled under. And of course, the cleanup detail that would be required to accumulate and destroy the yuge amount of ladders leaning aginst the wall.
Wounded Bear
(58,793 posts)Hestia
(3,818 posts)It is amazing how 25% of the country just hands over a $5B down payment of OTHER PEOPLE'S MONEY to him/them, and will be going on ad infinitum & ad nauseum (sp). Once a program gets in place, it takes forever to shut down - unless you are EPA & Interior.
OregonBlue
(7,756 posts)That can be seen from outer space and call it the "Temple of the greatest". It would cost much less and the country could get back to actual business while Plump spent all his time gazing at his monument.
panader0
(25,816 posts)NightWatcher
(39,343 posts)And didn't I hear that this wall would run from 28-50 billion? What good is $5 billion?
What is scary is that he's too dumb to know that he's lost and that it's time to quit this tantrum.
Putin wakes up laughing every morning, doesn't he?
saidsimplesimon
(7,888 posts)riversedge
(70,464 posts)IADEMO2004
(5,580 posts)erronis
(15,470 posts)Just cereal boxes, fast food wrappers, and Lysol cans as reading material.
lunatica
(53,410 posts)underpants
(183,043 posts)W-2's are due at the end of January so we are nearing the point where any further shutdown could mean a delay in refunds. A lot of people, including people who should know better, count on that lump of cash coming in as their own personal bonus. THAT will be when a lot of people (other than SNAP) will feel this.
The economy will also suffer due to the SNAP and Govt employees not spending money.
Hestia
(3,818 posts)since they prepaid for their refunds from the tax cuts?
Talk about double hurt.
And no unemployment checks - thugs have cut those to the bone in "red" states.
underpants
(183,043 posts)I'd forgotten about that element. I do remember something about state income taxes going up but I'm not sure how or why.
underpants
(183,043 posts)TheCowsCameHome
(40,169 posts)That is what this is all about.
WestMichRad
(1,349 posts)I think he wants what he thinks will be his own $5 billion slush fund.
Percy Shelley's "Ozymandias", 11 January 1818
I met a traveller from an antique land
Who said: Two vast and trunkless legs of stone
Stand in the desert... near them, on the sand,
Half sunk, a shattered visage lies, whose frown,
And wrinkled lip, and sneer of cold command,
Tell that its sculptor well those passions read
Which yet survive, stamped on these lifeless things,
The hand that mocked them and the heart that fed;
And on the pedestal these words appear:
'My name is Ozymandias, king of kings;
Look on my works, ye Mighty, and despair!'
Nothing beside remains. Round the decay
Of that colossal wreck, boundless and bare
The lone and level sands stretch far away.
...and so shall it be again.
erronis
(15,470 posts)to see the colossal wreck.
Nitram
(22,971 posts)Sinistrous
(4,249 posts)After all, great minds think alike. 🤓
Dulcinea
(6,692 posts)He knows this is the only monument he'll ever have. This is about narcissism & ego.
greymattermom
(5,754 posts)TRUMP BORDER WALL, and be done with it. When the sign wears out, don't repair or replace it.
ismnotwasm
(42,028 posts)The Liberal Redneck said much the same thing and I agree
Cha
(298,077 posts)come out for the wall.. and trump will never want to be around a wall again or hear the word wall.." paraphrasing.
Glad LR brought up Mexico!
Thanks, ismnotwasm!
William Seger
(10,793 posts)... but also his deplorable base.
usaf-vet
(6,239 posts)Trump's demands
Sorry, folks! Fuck you until you cough up five billion for a feckless construction project that has no purpose other than for Trump to put his name on and say I did that.
My slight revision would be Trump has two goals with building a wall.
1."to put his name on [it] and say I did that. and
2. he wants to bleed off millions $$$ in kick back dollars from the construction costs.
Trump keeps saying "nobody knows construction like I do"!
If that statement is true (IF?) then he knows how to bleed off kick back dollars.
With Trump is ALWAYS about the money.
Who, other than Mueller, would miss say $100 million from a $5+ billion dollar budget?
Cracklin Charlie
(12,904 posts)He wants to pay his outstanding mob debts with money taken from the United States Treasury.
Uh...hell to the no, two scoops!
dalton99a
(81,708 posts)usaf-vet
(6,239 posts)Surprise...surprise. The concrete wall paid for by Mexico is now morphing into the steel barrier/fence to be paid for by the US taxpayers.
How long before it becomes the "structural aluminum" barrier/fence/wall to be paid for by the US taxpayers?
IMO it all adds up to more kick back dollars for Trump and family.
Crutchez_CuiBono
(7,725 posts)for the next 30 years, so add 'free advertising' on that as well.
Crutchez_CuiBono
(7,725 posts)Been obvious for a long time. He's in it to rape the treasury.
Martin Eden
(12,887 posts)... and to all the LIES he's told to ramp up border hysteria.
DFW
(54,507 posts)dalton99a
(81,708 posts)maybe Mandias runs a Mexican drug cartel
DFW
(54,507 posts)the other day Mexico is paying for the wall by way of the new trade deal with them. So why does he want taxpayers money for the wall?
avebury
(10,953 posts)pocket a chunk of the money because he never does anything unless he gets something out of it.
liberalmuse
(18,672 posts)And the way you put that made me think of the Antichrist and the Abomination that causes desolation. This gives me the creeps even though I am atheist now. I cant help but think of Revelations these days, which was directed towards the church. They sure love Trump and pretty much worship him.
Fuzzpope
(602 posts)BarbaRosa
(2,685 posts)keeps crossing my mind.
Nitram
(22,971 posts)"And on the pedestal, these words appear:
My name is Ozymandias, King of Kings;
Look on my Works, ye Mighty, and despair!
Nothing beside remains. Round the decay
Of that colossal Wreck, boundless and bare
The lone and level sands stretch far away."
2naSalit
(86,963 posts)seriously, he needs to pay up somewhere and the $5+B is the price. And the accompanying chaos is just part of the destroy American pootinplan.
NotASurfer
(2,157 posts)He wants the ultimate memorial, something Speerian that will be there with his name on it for millennia to come. Kind of like the Futurama episode where Bender becomes Pharaoh of a planet and orders his slave labor force to build a monument depicting him stepping on the previous Pharaoh's monument commanding future generations "Remember ME!"
(Albert Speer was Hitler's chief architect, who wanted to rebuild Berlin with an eye toward scale and durability, so that civilization in a thousand years would still marvel at the ruins, and the power, vision, and genius of the leader who made it happen. Remind you of anybody?)
Hekate
(91,042 posts)Thanks, EarlG