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AOC smacks Scalise. She can out-twitter twitler! (Original Post) mobeau69 Jan 2019 OP
Perfect. dalton99a Jan 2019 #1
She's sharp, and is serious when necessary, but is not overly so... RHMerriman Jan 2019 #3
YESSSSS!!!!! Give it to him Alexandria!! She rocks!! InAbLuEsTaTe Jan 2019 #7
Scalise hasn't been spanked like that since he attended Trump's weekly Oval Office Dom meetings. TheBlackAdder Jan 2019 #36
This will be their mantra hibbing Jan 2019 #2
Remind them that Ike's top bracket was 91 percent. RHMerriman Jan 2019 #6
Good point!! AOC has it exactly right. InAbLuEsTaTe Jan 2019 #8
The tax code was very different then. Nobody paid 91% wasupaloopa Jan 2019 #11
The top bracket was 91 percent, meaning if you fell into that bracket, you paid RHMerriman Jan 2019 #13
Nobody paid 91% on ALL of their income TexasBushwhacker Jan 2019 #14
too many people don't pay what they're supposed to now either. nt JCanete Jan 2019 #20
Yeah, I remember someone said getting out of paying taxes was "smart". forgotmylogin Jan 2019 #55
AND there were far more deductions than we have now jmowreader Jan 2019 #23
And? Nobody pays the top marginal rate now Mariana Jan 2019 #43
BOOMMMM! nt Blue_true Jan 2019 #50
No one would pay 91% today. Blue_true Jan 2019 #49
She will tomorrow night on 60 Minutes. mobeau69 Jan 2019 #12
Of course, if Fox News had been around in the 1950s... regnaD kciN Jan 2019 #28
Fair ... but interestingly enough, the Fairness Doctrine was only about three years old RHMerriman Jan 2019 #29
We don't need to fashion our words to fit the treat of right wing talking points. We should be wasupaloopa Jan 2019 #9
It's Reagan's tax rate angrychair Jan 2019 #17
She's one person and a junior congressperson at that. herding cats Jan 2019 #25
Too many people don't know what the "marginal" even means in "marginal tax rate". SuprstitionAintthWay Jan 2019 #39
"I don't know what it is, but we need better ways of expressing what's being talked about. pangaia Jan 2019 #54
Let her talk. I like it wasupaloopa Jan 2019 #4
Agree, but she needs to Mr.Bill Jan 2019 #41
Gotta' love the change............ MyOwnPeace Jan 2019 #5
Yup yup... love the way AOC is leading the charge!! InAbLuEsTaTe Jan 2019 #10
Right Fucking On. jalan48 Jan 2019 #15
70% marginal rate at $10 million is reasonable. David__77 Jan 2019 #16
People who make that kind of money Mr.Bill Jan 2019 #42
Scalise is that guy unhappy about not getting a straw at McDonald's pecosbob Jan 2019 #18
It's too bad she isn't kowtowing to her "esteemed colleague" theaocp Jan 2019 #19
There seems to be a lot of angst about that. Autumn Jan 2019 #40
We need some young, middle aged, and old. David__77 Jan 2019 #44
We need them all. We do not need to silence any of them. Autumn Jan 2019 #45
Touche AOC! smirkymonkey Jan 2019 #21
Burn... dlk Jan 2019 #22
You're on her home turf now, dolt. eggplant Jan 2019 #24
Can we get like...191 more of her please?? nt Palisade Jan 2019 #26
Oh yes, please! Welcome to DU, Palisade! JudyM Jan 2019 #33
TY! Palisade Jan 2019 #53
Scalise tweeted what Republicans SAY. AOC reminds us what they actually DO. n/t Beartracks Jan 2019 #27
Yup DeminPennswoods Jan 2019 #30
With regards to Scalise... RHMerriman Jan 2019 #31
She doesn't waste much time. calimary Jan 2019 #32
Speaking out in snappy sound bites changes the dialogue. We've been needing someone who like her! JudyM Jan 2019 #34
I'm so happy to see someone Bettie Jan 2019 #35
I don't get it. what does it mean when people say, 'it's hurting us' because of bonniebgood Jan 2019 #37
It's just a way of stealth attacking melman Jan 2019 #58
Questioning an elder, experienced male's knowledge... SMC22307 Jan 2019 #38
AOC Is A Rising Star colsohlibgal Jan 2019 #46
Kicking ass! Pepsidog Jan 2019 #47
LOVE THIS!!!!! dsharp88 Jan 2019 #48
She's gonna be just fine! Brava! Roland99 Jan 2019 #51
Nicely done. John Fante Jan 2019 #52
AOC was awesome on 60 minutes Denis 11 Jan 2019 #56
"...Left wing fantasy programs..." yonder Jan 2019 #57

RHMerriman

(1,376 posts)
3. She's sharp, and is serious when necessary, but is not overly so...
Sun Jan 6, 2019, 01:10 AM
Jan 2019



She's sharp, and is serious when necessary, but it not overly so...

Very impressive individual, in multiple ways.

hibbing

(10,113 posts)
2. This will be their mantra
Sun Jan 6, 2019, 01:09 AM
Jan 2019

Democrats want to tax you at 70%. And every inside the D.C. bubble media pundit will ask Democrats to defend a "70% tax rate" PERIOD. Another talking point which i am surprised i have not yet seen is class warfare. Well, that war has been fought for decades and we all know who has won.

Peace

RHMerriman

(1,376 posts)
6. Remind them that Ike's top bracket was 91 percent.
Sun Jan 6, 2019, 01:12 AM
Jan 2019

Remind them that Ike's top bracket was 91 percent, and he was elected and re-elected with 55 percent and 57 percent of the vote, respectively.

RHMerriman

(1,376 posts)
13. The top bracket was 91 percent, meaning if you fell into that bracket, you paid
Sun Jan 6, 2019, 01:22 AM
Jan 2019

The top bracket was 91 percent, meaning if you fell into that bracket, you paid 91 percent on the percentage of your income that was above that in the next lower bracket - not that you paid 91 percent on ALL of what you made.

Seriously.

TexasBushwhacker

(20,254 posts)
14. Nobody paid 91% on ALL of their income
Sun Jan 6, 2019, 01:24 AM
Jan 2019

Only the very highest income earners would pay that much and only on the top part of their income, after deductions. I imagine AOCs plan would be similar.

forgotmylogin

(7,540 posts)
55. Yeah, I remember someone said getting out of paying taxes was "smart".
Sun Jan 6, 2019, 09:19 PM
Jan 2019

What are all these rich people with accountants afraid of?

jmowreader

(50,594 posts)
23. AND there were far more deductions than we have now
Sun Jan 6, 2019, 02:09 AM
Jan 2019

Or, as the GOP has termed them while trying to get rid of the ones you rely on, "loopholes." In the old days the Internal Revenue Code was pretty much a build-your-own-tax-cut plan that required you to spend money to get your tax cut.

The example I've used before: if you want to use money to convince your kid to study harder, would you tell him "I will give you $25 for each report card you bring home that's got all straight As on it" or "here's $100, get straight As but if you don't, that's okay too"? The GOP has been using the second one since the Reagan administration and by damn, they can't believe their kid doesn't bring home straight As...or people start hiring workers they don't need, or companies start replacing equipment that still sorta works.

Mariana

(14,863 posts)
43. And? Nobody pays the top marginal rate now
Sun Jan 6, 2019, 04:31 PM
Jan 2019

on all of their income, like the Republicans are trying to let on they do.

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
49. No one would pay 91% today.
Sun Jan 6, 2019, 06:20 PM
Jan 2019

I do favor a flat tax of 40% on any net pay or gross profit over $10 million, UNLESS, the individual business owner or company agree to allocate say 20% of the money to investments in equipment and workers and supplies, no buying yatchs or buying back stock.

regnaD kciN

(26,045 posts)
28. Of course, if Fox News had been around in the 1950s...
Sun Jan 6, 2019, 03:15 AM
Jan 2019

...Ike would have never become President. He’d have been defeated for the 1952 Republican nomination by a Fox-backed Joe McCarthy, and probably tarred as an “accomplice of Stalin” in WWII.

RHMerriman

(1,376 posts)
29. Fair ... but interestingly enough, the Fairness Doctrine was only about three years old
Sun Jan 6, 2019, 03:25 AM
Jan 2019

Fair ... but interestingly enough, the Fairness Doctrine was only about three years old, and the prior standard, Mayflower, was actually even more restrictive - broadcasters could not editorialize, period.

The 1940s and 1950s were not eras I'd want to live in, but in their favor, there was a pretty broad understanding of the power of both propaganda and responsible honest journalism, for obvious reasons.
 

wasupaloopa

(4,516 posts)
9. We don't need to fashion our words to fit the treat of right wing talking points. We should be
Sun Jan 6, 2019, 01:15 AM
Jan 2019

honest, and have our own talking points,

angrychair

(8,755 posts)
17. It's Reagan's tax rate
Sun Jan 6, 2019, 01:27 AM
Jan 2019

The 70% number comes directly from Reagan's economic policy. This is not a new thing. It also only affects annual income over $10 million, meaning the first $10 million would be taxed at current rates.

herding cats

(19,569 posts)
25. She's one person and a junior congressperson at that.
Sun Jan 6, 2019, 02:40 AM
Jan 2019

She's not hurting us overall too much. None of the junior congresspeople are, no matter what you see on the news. They're not our Tea Party, or our demise. That's blather created for ratings. Ignore it unless she attacks the party itself. Which so far it seems she's too smart to do. I suspect she has all the makings of a true politician and I'm willing to wait and see.

Let her be and let her be her. I don't really understand her level of national celebrity, but that's over and done and between her and the media now. She's working a groove to try and escalate herself. I get that. Hell, I'd do the same in her shoes.

I'm pro leave her be and let her find her own balance. Either she will, or she won't. She has a lot of eyes and stress on her now, but she's a first year junior Congressperson. She's a rookie. Give her some space and a year or so to find her feet before we judge her.

Hell, she's not even ours to judge. She belongs to her district and they're the people she's supposed to be representing after all.

39. Too many people don't know what the "marginal" even means in "marginal tax rate".
Sun Jan 6, 2019, 01:10 PM
Jan 2019

They don't understand what AOC and we do about how income tax brackets work, and that even very wealthy people's lower levels of income are taxed at lower rates. That the higher rates talked about would apply to income over $x, some very high number, and to that income ONLY.

Which makes it easy for Repubs like this guy to launch the figure into their meme-o-sphere as their latest scary supposed outrage-of-the-week.

Even if one does leave the word "marginal" in the term -- which the fearmonger party never does -- I don't think most people grasp what's being said. A "60% marginal income tax rate" still scares even people whose own rate would never go beyond the 20s.

The language used in discussing personal income taxation isn't conducive to making this important distinction clear to the listener.

I don't know what it is, but we need better ways of expressing what's being talked about. Terminology that isn't so easy to mis-represent and mis-understand.

pangaia

(24,324 posts)
54. "I don't know what it is, but we need better ways of expressing what's being talked about.
Sun Jan 6, 2019, 07:29 PM
Jan 2019

Terminology that isn't so easy to mis-represent and mis-understand."

It is PERFECTLY easy to understand, to anybody with a good, normal education, and a functioning brain.



Oh, wait !!!!!!!!!!!! MAGAs

Silly me

MyOwnPeace

(16,955 posts)
5. Gotta' love the change............
Sun Jan 6, 2019, 01:11 AM
Jan 2019

Since the November elections there is SO much more kick-ass responding coming from Democrats.
"We're mad as hell and we're not gonna' take it anymore!"

Mr.Bill

(24,368 posts)
42. People who make that kind of money
Sun Jan 6, 2019, 04:18 PM
Jan 2019

shouldn't have any problem with it, since they will avoid it by creating so many jobs and writing off the wages of those they hired, right? Isn't that their claim?

theaocp

(4,250 posts)
19. It's too bad she isn't kowtowing to her "esteemed colleague"
Sun Jan 6, 2019, 01:48 AM
Jan 2019

or some other such antiquated bullshit. These people are scum and it's been a long time coming to name names and kick their asses. Fuck you, scalise, you piece of shit. We're coming.

Autumn

(45,120 posts)
40. There seems to be a lot of angst about that.
Sun Jan 6, 2019, 01:27 PM
Jan 2019

I think a lot of older people are bothered by change.

David__77

(23,633 posts)
44. We need some young, middle aged, and old.
Sun Jan 6, 2019, 04:33 PM
Jan 2019

And, ideally, the old and middle aged retain their political youth in at least some respects.

RHMerriman

(1,376 posts)
31. With regards to Scalise...
Sun Jan 6, 2019, 03:31 AM
Jan 2019

And to quote Randy Newman:

College men, from LSU
Went in dumb, come out dumb too,


Go check out his Twitter feed now; he's retreating faster than Joe Johnston facing WT Sherman...


calimary

(81,605 posts)
32. She doesn't waste much time.
Sun Jan 6, 2019, 03:58 AM
Jan 2019

Looks like a new day, GOP. She’s saying out loud what a lot of people are thinking.

JudyM

(29,294 posts)
34. Speaking out in snappy sound bites changes the dialogue. We've been needing someone who like her!
Sun Jan 6, 2019, 10:01 AM
Jan 2019

Their slimy smears and sneers are going to lose impact.

Bettie

(16,148 posts)
35. I'm so happy to see someone
Sun Jan 6, 2019, 10:18 AM
Jan 2019

who doesn't let this stuff go.

Go AOC! Keep bringing it right back to them.

bonniebgood

(943 posts)
37. I don't get it. what does it mean when people say, 'it's hurting us' because of
Sun Jan 6, 2019, 12:23 PM
Jan 2019

AOC speaking her truths? I take it to mean when its contrary to the republican belief and talking points,
it's hurting the Democrats? Will someone explain?
I personally LOVE HER.

 

melman

(7,681 posts)
58. It's just a way of stealth attacking
Sun Jan 6, 2019, 10:16 PM
Jan 2019

They think if they couch the attack in some kind of concern it will make it seem more legitimate. It doesn't.

SMC22307

(8,090 posts)
38. Questioning an elder, experienced male's knowledge...
Sun Jan 6, 2019, 01:08 PM
Jan 2019

and putting him in a defensive position? She is REALLY good. And should pay no heed to those on this site and elsewhere telling her to do this, that, or the other, and to step back and allow herself to be mothered/nurtured. This young woman is fierce and clearly knows what she's doing.

Denis 11

(280 posts)
56. AOC was awesome on 60 minutes
Sun Jan 6, 2019, 09:21 PM
Jan 2019

Bartcop would have loved her, finally a Democrat who fights back and spanks the Republican asshats. She is another example of the wonderful people that have called the Bronx their home like Sonya Sotomayor and Fiorello LaGuardia.
I went to high school in Parkchester near her home , I am proud to have being from the Bronx in common with such a bright strong person as AOC. I wish her great success.


  

yonder

(9,686 posts)
57. "...Left wing fantasy programs..."
Sun Jan 6, 2019, 09:52 PM
Jan 2019

Scalise-speak for anything helping the average Joe at the presumed expense of the corpo-class.

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