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... when the team did a follow-up study in the US, the size of the effect was ten times smaller. We have a lot of information now suggesting American voters dont really care about facts, in the sense that if you tell them a politician is dishonest it doesnt really seem to matter, says Lewandowsky.
In the Australian study, 450 people did an online test ... The feelings and voting intentions of those shown mostly falsehoods changed significantly, while those of people shown an equal mix of truth and falsehoods did not. Surprisingly, fact checking was just as effective whatever peoples initial view of the politician making the statement.
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The team did not investigate the reasons for this difference, but they speculate that it has to do with the far more polarised nature of political culture in the US.
In Australia, voting is compulsory and there is a preferential voting system. There are buffers against extremism in the Australian system that dont exist in the US, says Lewandowsky.
Journal reference: Royal Society Open Science, DOI: https://doi.org/10.1098/rsos.180593
https://www.newscientist.com/article/2189545-australians-care-if-politicians-tell-lies-but-people-in-the-us-dont/
uriel1972
(4,261 posts)do we have a lying, dishonest, cheating 'conservative' government?
ProudMNDemocrat
(16,897 posts)There were plenty of discussions on why there have been so many Prime Ministers. The Aussies want honest government. They know Bull Shit when they hear it.
Nor were the Aussies I spoke with kind about Donald Trump. They were crude than the Congresswoman from Michigan was, and she was being KIND.
Crutchez_CuiBono
(7,725 posts)Just bc we can't stop the liars or the folks broadcasting the liars, doesn't mean we don't care.
JudyM
(29,294 posts)Crutchez_CuiBono
(7,725 posts)JudyM
(29,294 posts)Were all in this together.
ooky
(8,933 posts)Our media constantly ignores and looks past our lying politicians.
marybourg
(12,650 posts)It's their cult leader who lies. That's how a cult works.
Takket
(21,703 posts)Years of equating minor events (like a dem calling drumpf a motherfucker) to major rethug transgressions has left the electorate not uncaring about lies, but simply believing honest politicians dont exist.
triron
(22,030 posts)pecosbob
(7,549 posts)The articles says that 450 Australians were surveyed, a pretty small sample size, but mentions nothing about the methodology used in the U.S. poll.
I think it still does matter to most non-conservative voters in the U.S. I think that conservatives are so used to being lied to that they've come to expect it (the ones that actually have functioning brain cells).
JudyM
(29,294 posts)Even with the relatively small sample size, a factor of ten is noteworthy, if the research design is otherwise robust.
Conservatives are used to doing what their authoritarian bosses tell them to do and believe, so critical thinking abut veracity isnt a priority. Unquestioning.
pecosbob
(7,549 posts)But in general for example, as a Dem voter, Bill Clinton lying about his affair did bother me and reaffirmed many of the impressions I had of him. Not that that would have made me vote for a Republican opponent, but it is what it is. I've long long since moved beyond the shake lots of hands and lie like a dog type of politician.
JudyM
(29,294 posts)Right there with you on this, pecosbob.