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Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin

(108,458 posts)
Mon Jan 7, 2019, 04:07 PM Jan 2019

How much would Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez's tax plan cost Americans?

Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez has touted a plan that would tax multimillionaire Americans 60-70% to fund massive energy and infrastructure overhauls related to a plan that aims to reduce the country's carbon emissions to zero and eliminate fossil fuels in 10 years.

The New York's representative said in a "60 Minutes" interview Sunday that a new marginal tax rate would affect Americans making more than $10 million to help pay for the "Green New Deal."

"Once you get to the tippy-tops, on your $10 millionth dollar, sometimes you see tax rates as high as 60 percent or 70 percent," Ocasio-Cortez said. "That doesn't mean all $10 million dollars are taxed at an extremely high rate. But it means that as you climb up this ladder, you should be contributing more."

Ocasio-Cortez pointed to past American policies that implemented similar rates under administrations of both parties.

Policies under former President Dwight Eisenhower reached 90% in the 1950s. Through the administrations of presidents John F. Kennedy and Lyndon B. Johnson, the rate sat at 70%. President Ronald Reagan then sliced the top rate to 50% in the early 1980s before it eventually fell to 38% in 1986.

Analysis from The Washington Post found that if taxes on the approximately 16,000 Americans who earned more than $10 million in 2016 was raised from the 39.6% they paid that year to 70%, the federal government would earn an extra $72 billion each year.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/taxes/how-much-would-alexandria-ocasio-cortezs-tax-plan-cost-americans/ar-BBRSx2f?li=BBnb7Kz

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How much would Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez's tax plan cost Americans? (Original Post) Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Jan 2019 OP
Great headline, MSN maxsolomon Jan 2019 #1
Should be, "How much would Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez's tax plan cost rich Americans and PufPuf23 Jan 2019 #12
You have a typo in the title-should read "Saves" Boxerfan Jan 2019 #2
That's the article Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Jan 2019 #3
Well this is DU so why bring the trash here? Boxerfan Jan 2019 #4
Welcome to ignore Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Jan 2019 #5
You make many assumptions predicated on so little. LanternWaste Jan 2019 #8
You added no comments of your own. Voltaire2 Jan 2019 #10
It would have to be federal tax reform ismnotwasm Jan 2019 #6
A small business owner who earns $10 million in annual profits isn't very small gratuitous Jan 2019 #7
A net profit of 10 million, is that the term? ismnotwasm Jan 2019 #11
That would be one threshold, if I'm reading it right gratuitous Jan 2019 #13
It isn't a very small business if the owner Bettie Jan 2019 #9

maxsolomon

(33,461 posts)
1. Great headline, MSN
Mon Jan 7, 2019, 04:09 PM
Jan 2019



I propose the alternate: "How much would AOC's tax plan cost Rich Fucks?"

16,000 people in a country of 300 million is .0053% of "Americans".

PufPuf23

(8,856 posts)
12. Should be, "How much would Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez's tax plan cost rich Americans and
Mon Jan 7, 2019, 06:18 PM
Jan 2019

benefit most other Americans?"

Boxerfan

(2,533 posts)
4. Well this is DU so why bring the trash here?
Mon Jan 7, 2019, 04:40 PM
Jan 2019

Because I remember those times....A low defecit full epmloyment and a curve towards progressive policies.

We were going in the right direction. Are you suggesting she is not right about raising taxes on people who have never paid the fair share in most peoples lifetimes?

Why troll that trash?

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
8. You make many assumptions predicated on so little.
Mon Jan 7, 2019, 05:35 PM
Jan 2019

Seems a flawed method to infer data, but a great one to fling at the wall hoping it sticks.

Voltaire2

(13,260 posts)
10. You added no comments of your own.
Mon Jan 7, 2019, 06:04 PM
Jan 2019

So what do you think of this idiotic editorial hit piece on progressive taxation and Ocasio-Cortez?

ismnotwasm

(42,023 posts)
6. It would have to be federal tax reform
Mon Jan 7, 2019, 05:04 PM
Jan 2019

Because (obviously) state taxes are subject to state politics. If we, as a nation, decide to that people with millions or billions of dollars are taxed more, and the monies are directed to specific purposes ie infastructure, green deals, small business incentives I think this could work.

That being said, a high tax rate on 10 million for a small business owner, may not work, if the business owner reinvests, pays employees, health insurance bonuses etc —i mean it’s a lot of money to me, but not much in the business world.

I think tax reform needs to go hand in hand with healthcare.

The math needs to be correct, however. I don’t understand the math, not being an economist. When I read numbers, I want them to add up, and add up reasonably. I want reasonable goals. I want small businesses to be able to thrive.

Big businesses stimulate the economy, and the profit sharing is supposed to trickle down by providing jobs. (Jobs are great if they decent wages and benefits; many do not)

In Seattle, I can drive down any city street and see what we are currently doing does not work. We have at least 11,000 homeless here. The “opioid crisis” is driven by despair in far too many cases.

gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
7. A small business owner who earns $10 million in annual profits isn't very small
Mon Jan 7, 2019, 05:34 PM
Jan 2019

Before a small business owner gets to $10 million in taxable, profitable income, the business has to pay employees, state and local taxes, lease on business space, and all the other day-to-day expenses of running a business that are deducted from taxable income (unlike an individual's income, which doesn't allow for deductions for buying groceries, paying rent, and the other expenses of day-to-day living like electricity, water, and internet).

So if a business is clearing $10 million in profit subject to taxation, it has benefited greatly from the legal, financial, regulatory, and civil structures provided by the government. That business should be pulling its own weight to benefit itself and others.

ismnotwasm

(42,023 posts)
11. A net profit of 10 million, is that the term?
Mon Jan 7, 2019, 06:12 PM
Jan 2019

Not convinced 10 million Should be treated the same way as billion— as far as tax rates goes is more my point. I’m kind of musing out loud, if we are going to tax profits, it has to be completely thought out and supported by good economic data, not political emotionalism

But like I said, what we have now is not working for far too many people. I am very concerned about small business owners.

What I do, is read legislation, and within the limit of my understanding and research see if it’s a viable, workable plan, that will be beneficial, and passable. I know politics is a lot of grandstanding, but my mind doesn’t work that way,

gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
13. That would be one threshold, if I'm reading it right
Mon Jan 7, 2019, 06:19 PM
Jan 2019

There would be other thresholds for folks earning $100 million and up through a billion. Taxing the profit above $10 million at a higher rate than the first $10 million seems a reasonable ask from folks making that much off the system.

As for economic data vs. political emotionalism, all of the data is on the Keynesian side of things, not on the Laffer supply side.

Bettie

(16,148 posts)
9. It isn't a very small business if the owner
Mon Jan 7, 2019, 05:57 PM
Jan 2019

nets over ten million a year.

The tax is paid after the business expenses, which include health insurance, bonuses, employee pay, and investment in the business. If after all of the bills are paid, your net profit is over ten million?

You're doing pretty damned well and you don't pay the top rate on all of that income anyway.

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