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babylonsister

(171,110 posts)
Tue Jan 8, 2019, 09:34 AM Jan 2019

The Rude Pundit: The Only Talking Point: The Wall Is a Lie

http://rudepundit.blogspot.com/2019/01/the-only-talking-point-wall-is-lie.html

The Rude Pundit
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1/07/2019
The Only Talking Point: The Wall Is a Lie


When Democrats oppose Donald Trump on his fantasy of a wall/barrier/fence/whatever on the border with Mexico, they often bury the easiest, clearest reason to oppose it. Sure, yeah, it's racist, since, you know, none of the wall-humpers are talking about the extraordinarily porous border with Canada. Sure, Nancy Pelosi is right that the wall is "immoral, expensive, and unwise."

But the easiest way to explain why Democrats have refused to fund it is that it's all a goddamn lie. That's it. That's all you have to say. No other explanation is needed: "The President is lying when he says that a border wall is needed. We may as well build a castle for his unicorn."

There is no national security crisis on the southern border of the United States. There is no terrorism crisis on the border: only six people on the Terrorist Watch List (itself a problematic entity, but let's focus here) were stopped by Border Patrol in the first half of 2018. That doesn't mean actual terrorists but people on the watch list. It's like saying you caught a half-dozen robbery suspects. There's a good chance most of 'em didn't rob shit. And, in his pummeling of White House spokestooge Sarah Sanders, Fox "news" host Mike Wallace, of all people, made the point that "the State Department says, quote, ‘There were no credible evidence of any terrorist coming across the border from Mexico.'" If Fox "news" agrees that Donald Trump is a fucking liar, he's a fucking liar.

There is no criminal crisis caused by undocumented immigrants coming through the southern border. According to Customs and Border Patrol's own numbers, the Border Patrol arrested about 6300 "criminal aliens" (people who were convicted of previous crimes) in most of fiscal year 2018 (final numbers aren't in because, well, government shutdown). Over half were convicted of previously entering the country illegally. You can cut almost 2000 more for either driving under the influence or drug possession.

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Tomorrow night Trump's going to give some kind of rambling, incoherent, belligerent speech about the "Humanitarian and National Security crisis on our Southern Border," as he tweeted in his over-capitalizing way today. The only humanitarian crisis is the one that the United States has created by its cruel policies, made even crueler by this administration in violating laws and treaties on refugees and those seeking amnesty. The only national security crisis is in the greedy, diseased brains of those who need someone to demonize in order to maintain power (and probably get some sweet contracts to donors, like, say, the steel industry).

And those who oppose this nonsense have to take a stand for facts, for truth, for reality. Too many of us have given in too many times to the dangerous whims of our leaders, with many believing that the liars were acting in good faith. It has always led, at the very least, to distracting from solving real problems or, at worst, to disaster.

The wall is a lie. Everything about is a lie. Everyone who wants to build it is a liar. That should be the message.


(Note: Nothing in here should be construed to mean that I don't want any border security. That's fuckin' stupid and only fuckin' stupid people would get that from this post.)
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The Rude Pundit: The Only Talking Point: The Wall Is a Lie (Original Post) babylonsister Jan 2019 OP
Like finding the integrity to accept the results of a rigged election? czarjak Jan 2019 #1
I nominate the Rude One think4yourself Jan 2019 #2
That simple malaise Jan 2019 #3
K&R smirkymonkey Jan 2019 #4
Absolutely, it's a lie. It's absurd, preposterous, ridiculous. Dave Starsky Jan 2019 #5
Spot on dalton99a Jan 2019 #6

think4yourself

(839 posts)
2. I nominate the Rude One
Tue Jan 8, 2019, 10:49 AM
Jan 2019

to write the Democratic response and Samuel L. Jackson to read it.

This is war and we will fight it with the army we wish to have.

Dave Starsky

(5,914 posts)
5. Absolutely, it's a lie. It's absurd, preposterous, ridiculous.
Tue Jan 8, 2019, 03:23 PM
Jan 2019

The fact that we are debating this like a Wall is a practical idea in the 21st century is absolutely crazy.

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