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BREAKING: Pelosi and Schumer will deliver the Dem response together tonight (Original Post) highplainsdem Jan 2019 OP
Yeah, and too bad the only ones watching it grumpyduck Jan 2019 #1
They should have Dick Durbin do it frazzled Jan 2019 #2
I like Dick Durbin a lot--always have. ginnyinWI Jan 2019 #5
When Nancy calls trump she always wins. erlewyne Jan 2019 #13
Trump's flying to Mexico? DeminPennswoods Jan 2019 #30
You got me!!! DeminPennswoods erlewyne Jan 2019 #31
I tend to agree with this, firstwife Jan 2019 #15
Should be the exact same network. Crutchez_CuiBono Jan 2019 #3
It is unfortunate that age tends to drain some of us of the passion that is needed... kentuck Jan 2019 #4
It's also too bad that some people can't or won't hear intelligent, rational messages unless they're EffieBlack Jan 2019 #6
That is true.. kentuck Jan 2019 #8
That is definitely true. But a truth that can't and shouldn't be KPN Jan 2019 #14
This goes both ways EffieBlack Jan 2019 #20
I agree. If only they would. The reality is KPN Jan 2019 #21
some people? Most people? qazplm135 Jan 2019 #19
Ah, so it's lack of "passion." ehrnst Jan 2019 #12
Kentuck, you sound a little demoralized and empty Hortensis Jan 2019 #16
I hope it doesn't look like mom and dad... Renew Deal Jan 2019 #7
Lol Laura PourMeADrink Jan 2019 #10
The crazy uncle will make them sound just fine. safeinOhio Jan 2019 #11
I was hoping they would ScratchCat Jan 2019 #9
To be clear: on the NETWORKS, correct? And what's with all the Downer posts in this thread? UTUSN Jan 2019 #17
Duplicate post. UTUSN Jan 2019 #18
A response suggestion... irisblue Jan 2019 #22
Good, we'll present an image of solidarity Victor_c3 Jan 2019 #23
Nancy will beat him up again, no doubt. redstatebluegirl Jan 2019 #24
Clinton would be a good choice. WeekiWater Jan 2019 #25
Should be just Pelosi BannonsLiver Jan 2019 #26
Excellent! I will watch our leaders deliver the rebuttal - THE TRUTH to counter the Idiot's lies onetexan Jan 2019 #27
I think this might be a good thing. MuseRider Jan 2019 #28
Awesome! Should be followed by Alec Baldwin's version of the Trump speech flibbitygiblets Jan 2019 #29
Yeah Gothmog Jan 2019 #32

frazzled

(18,402 posts)
2. They should have Dick Durbin do it
Tue Jan 8, 2019, 11:48 AM
Jan 2019

He, after all, is the ranking member of the Judiciary Committee's Subcommittee on Border Security and Immigration, and thus best informed on the issues. He's also a longtime member of the Democrats' leadership in the Senate, and a reasoned, yet passionate speaker. It would have been a better choice. He doesn't have the kind of targets on his back that Pelosi and Schumer do, as the more visible members of the leadership. More people would thus listen to him.

ginnyinWI

(17,276 posts)
5. I like Dick Durbin a lot--always have.
Tue Jan 8, 2019, 11:58 AM
Jan 2019

I usually stop what I'm doing to listen when I see him on TV.

In this case, I like the Pelosi/Schumer choice. It lets the public know who is there to counter Trump-who is in charge of the opposition to his crazy ideas.

And I'm sure they will be able to think on their feet and give the right response with the amount of authority that is needed, being a co-equal branch of the government.

erlewyne

(1,115 posts)
13. When Nancy calls trump she always wins.
Tue Jan 8, 2019, 12:33 PM
Jan 2019

She counts her meld and knows how to bid.

Maybe Trump will mention "Nancy" in his speech?, but
there is a flew bug going around ... he probably hasn't
slept well.

And he does have to fly to Mexico.

erlewyne

(1,115 posts)
31. You got me!!! DeminPennswoods
Tue Jan 8, 2019, 02:41 PM
Jan 2019

I thought oops, I was just being sarcastic

and you let me off the hook.

Thanks ... but you got me!

firstwife

(115 posts)
15. I tend to agree with this,
Tue Jan 8, 2019, 12:38 PM
Jan 2019

mainly because of the rancor they bring out from the opposition. Durban is knowledgeable with an authoritative speaking style.

kentuck

(111,111 posts)
4. It is unfortunate that age tends to drain some of us of the passion that is needed...
Tue Jan 8, 2019, 11:54 AM
Jan 2019

...to communicate to a larger audience. Just my opinion.

 

EffieBlack

(14,249 posts)
6. It's also too bad that some people can't or won't hear intelligent, rational messages unless they're
Tue Jan 8, 2019, 12:10 PM
Jan 2019

delivered with "passion."

KPN

(15,677 posts)
14. That is definitely true. But a truth that can't and shouldn't be
Tue Jan 8, 2019, 12:37 PM
Jan 2019

ignored. Pelosi will do fine. Schumer i’m not so sure. Sometimes he has a way of coming across too erudite, nuanced and refined where the average audience member may respond better to direct, straight-forward, graphic language. I would prefer if they portray Benedict Donald as petulant and play up the “hostage” element, i.e., for the long term welfare of our nation, we can never submit to hostage taking, even when it is by the small p president. And then back this up with the facts arguing against spending our $ on a meaningless “wall”.

On the other hand, the illegitimate WH occupant may well just make it very easy for them with his own performance or, better yet, burn down his house on his own.

 

EffieBlack

(14,249 posts)
20. This goes both ways
Tue Jan 8, 2019, 12:47 PM
Jan 2019

Just as folks call on speakers to show more *passion," listeners need to take some responsibility and learn how to listen to information that profoundly affects them without feeling the need to be entertained and "inspired."

KPN

(15,677 posts)
21. I agree. If only they would. The reality is
Tue Jan 8, 2019, 12:50 PM
Jan 2019

we can’t control that. We can only hope and understand that.

qazplm135

(7,447 posts)
19. some people? Most people?
Tue Jan 8, 2019, 12:44 PM
Jan 2019

psychologically, less than 10% of your actual words matter when giving a presentation.

body language, tone of voice, appearance, and attractiveness matter. Presentation matters like 90% of it.

That's not made up, that's science. Studies have been done on this. Lawyers are trained on this when giving opening/closing statements/argument.

What you say is way, way less important than how you say it.

Shouldn't be that way, but it's the way it is for the vast majority of human beings.

 

ehrnst

(32,640 posts)
12. Ah, so it's lack of "passion."
Tue Jan 8, 2019, 12:29 PM
Jan 2019

So, tell us, who do you think would have gotten "that larger audience," and why didn't they do that?

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
16. Kentuck, you sound a little demoralized and empty
Tue Jan 8, 2019, 12:41 PM
Jan 2019

of belief that good liberal principles and reason can prevail yourself, and I'm sorry.

But remember that liberals have ALWAYS been, overall, more strongly motivated by reasoned argument than passion, actually often finding passion suspect. That's why Trump, and Sanders to a lesser degree, though able to draw some who respond to passion to become strong followers, did not have the same effect on most liberals. Even 9 out of 10 Sanders primary voters turned happily to Hillary as their second choice because it was about the issues for them, not the charisma.

Until we make candidates campaign with bags on their heads, that we aren't all potential trumpsters is actually something very good about us and what will save our nation.

ScratchCat

(2,020 posts)
9. I was hoping they would
Tue Jan 8, 2019, 12:16 PM
Jan 2019

rather do a prebuttal, essentially saying we have already passed bills to re-open the government and fund border security, "border security" has nothing to do with the government being open/closed, give the REAL stats on illegals/terrorists/etc and close it with "it doesn't matter what falsehoods he says tonight, we aren't funding a wall".

Go ahead a pre-empt the nonsense.

irisblue

(33,054 posts)
22. A response suggestion...
Tue Jan 8, 2019, 01:07 PM
Jan 2019

Nick Jack Pappas (@Pappiness) Tweeted:
Preview of Nancy Pelosi and Chuck Schumer's full response to Trump's address this evening: https://t.co/wKubi5Xmd3


Victor_c3

(3,557 posts)
23. Good, we'll present an image of solidarity
Tue Jan 8, 2019, 01:09 PM
Jan 2019

I remember during one of Obama’s addresses that there were three or more republican responses. To me, that just reeks of weakness and lack of unity within the party.

redstatebluegirl

(12,265 posts)
24. Nancy will beat him up again, no doubt.
Tue Jan 8, 2019, 01:32 PM
Jan 2019

I like Durbin, but I LOVE Nancy. Schumer is just there to carry her lunch.

 

WeekiWater

(3,259 posts)
25. Clinton would be a good choice.
Tue Jan 8, 2019, 01:36 PM
Jan 2019

I would personally like to see them think outside of the box but Pelosi and Schumer will do well.

Wanna know how to knock Trump off the front page on this one? Have Colin Kaepernick give the response.

MuseRider

(34,136 posts)
28. I think this might be a good thing.
Tue Jan 8, 2019, 02:22 PM
Jan 2019

I am not a huge fan of either when I want to listen to someone speak however the two of them make the representation of the party and the decisions made by the party seem to fall of their shoulders. No besmirching of someone who wants to run in 2020, a full representation without someone saying something that is a little off by accident or implication. We have some excellent speakers and excellent representatives who are really busy right now drawing the noose tighter and tighter. They are free to do so and continue without the distraction that you know will be flying out of Fox by the bucket fulls.

Kinda naive thought but it sit well with me so, we will see. All in all, it probably makes not one tiny difference who is doing the talking but it does seem like a good strategy at this particular moment to me.

flibbitygiblets

(7,220 posts)
29. Awesome! Should be followed by Alec Baldwin's version of the Trump speech
Tue Jan 8, 2019, 02:23 PM
Jan 2019

We'll probably have to wait for SNL for that one.

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