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The Associated Press pipes up with a 'both sides' Trump take so dumb it may redefine the genre
Hunter
Daily Kos Staff
Wednesday January 09, 2019 · 1:43 PM EST
Presenting: the worst take of all time. The record-holder and now-and-forever champion. The Holy Grail of Both Sides-ism. The dumbest thing you have ever heard. The final, definitive proof that this country will collapse in on itself before the press comes to terms with the manifest unfitness of the current White House occupant or the consequences of his nation-be-damned acts. The Great Stinker of Takes.
Link to tweet
Not only was the Associated Press ratioed thoroughly and well for this abomination of punditry, but most commenters were rightly focused on just what this would mean for every other fact-check in the world. "Police officers put the blame for the bank robbery on the bank robber, but it takes two to tango. Perhaps the bank should not have been open on Tuesdays" was a typical formulation.
All government shutdownsand, apparently, this is going to be a commonplace Republican tactic noware caused when one side wants a new concession that it estimates it can get if it holds the entire United States budget and every United States citizen hostage. Trump's version, however, is unusual, in that he, a raging self-absorbed narcissist still furious over the shellacking his allies got in the recent midterm elections, is demanding a ransom that even the majority of his own party has not been able to stomach giving him. Trump had two years of undivided Republican government to press for his wall; he did not get it, because even his own party considered the demand too expensive and too stupid to force through.
In a sudden new fit of pique after the midterm drubbings (and a series of indictments and court filings that have implicated him, personally, in likely state and federal crimes), Trump is now demanding that Democrats give him what a unified Republican government would not. His hostage: the whole of government, but most critically furloughed and unpaid federal workers and the Americans who rely on the services they provide. His demand: billions of dollars for a vanity project his own party refused to give him. His motivation: a purely political effort to prove his virility to an increasingly shrinking but still obsessively racist base.
There has been absolutely no non-Trump-humping evidence of any new crisis that would justify the extraordinary demands Trump has made, in any venue. The Associated Press headline writers know that as well as anyone else.
And from a "fact-checking" standpoint: When the government shut down, the Democrats were not in charge. It was just before Christmas. We were there. The Associated Press reported on it.
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Crutchez_CuiBono
(7,725 posts)Mister Ed
(5,951 posts)"But it takes two to tango. The kidnapping was one reason for the tragedy. But despite negotiations, the Lindberghs ultimately failed to get the ransom money delivered."
(I guess that's how AP would have 'fact-checked' the story)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lindbergh_kidnapping
iluvtennis
(19,912 posts)anarch
(6,535 posts)b/c then she wouldn't have been raped, see.
Blues Heron
(5,955 posts)they could have done what they wanted. Those days are now over.
Achilleaze
(15,543 posts)Again.
Amishman
(5,559 posts)We are also responsible for the shutdown, as if this was strictly about money, it would make more sense to just piss away 5 billion on useless steel and concrete. The shutdown itself costs 6.5 billion per week.
We probably.couod have haggled it down to 2 billion in wall funding. Attach conditions that all legal challenges be funded out of the wall allocation, and next to nothing would be left once the courts are done. Add a condition that all wall sections must have a 3rd party environmental review and nothing gets built before we take over in 2021.
So we are opposing the wall to defy Trump, not out of financial responsibility. IMO, we are right to do it. We are partially responsible for the shutdown because we are being responsible and opposing Trump.
BumRushDaShow
(130,092 posts)A year ago, "wall funding" WAS offered by Schumer, along with DACA, healthcare fixes, fully funded requested military appropriations and a few other things (and he got quite a bit of heat for it).... And shortly thereafter, Kelly got a hold of that and it was torpedoed by the WH.
Enough.
When you have someone who delegates negotiations to lunatics (or retains advice from such people) who have no serious knowledge or skill in being pragmatic, then you get to the point where we are at the moment - some sectors sanctioning the use of bullying as a negotiation tactic to achieve a trivial goal.
babylonsister
(171,112 posts)because it is. not. necessary. Throughout dt's 'presidency', he's demeaned anyone who is not white. He's inspired fear and hate in racists. When do we say enough?? Right the fuck now.
rickyhall
(4,889 posts)bullwinkle428
(20,631 posts)They are totally pushing the "both sides are acting like children" meme.