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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsYale Historian: 'inevitable' that Trump will try to stage a coup and overthrow democracy
https://www.rawstory.com/2019/01/pretty-much-inevitable-trump-will-try-stage-coup-overthrow-democracy-yale-historian-tim-snyder/Let me make just two points. The first is that I think its pretty much inevitable that they will try. The reason I think that is that the conventional ways of being popular are not working out for them. The conventional way to be popular or to be legitimate in this country is to have some policies, to grow your popularity ratings and to win some elections. I dont think 2018 is looking very good for the Republicans along those conventional lines not just because the president is historically unpopular. Its also because neither the White House nor Congress have any policies which the majority of the public like.
This means they could be seduced by the notion of getting into a new rhythm of politics, one that does not depend upon popular policies and electoral cycles.
Whether it works or not depends upon whether when something terrible happens to this country, we are aware that the main significance of it is whether or not we are going to be more or less free citizens in the future.
BSdetect
(8,999 posts)Palisade
(54 posts)luvtheGWN
(1,336 posts)Or to quote the odious and now disgraced and fired Moonves, it may not be good for America, but it's wonderful for CBS.
When/how will we all know when the pendulum has swung too far?
NewJeffCT
(56,829 posts)than Obama trying to ban Fox News from the White House briefing room or his executive orders on XYZ?
jcgoldie
(11,662 posts)ooky
(8,936 posts)Dave Starsky
(5,914 posts)If he lost. He flat-out said that.
Trump will not leave the presidency until he is literally physically dragged out of there--kicking, screaming, and grabbing at the carpet. He is in that job for as long as he wants to be. Term limits, like the rest of the Constitution, don't mean jack shit anymore.
mikeysnot
(4,758 posts)He just said that so he could legitimize Hillary and go around on TV like he did with Obama's birtherism.
dalton99a
(81,708 posts)- a personal prize that he "won" - and therefore by right belongs to him and his heirs
A HERETIC I AM
(24,382 posts)Trump will be gone. If that means the Secret Service will bodily pick him up and take him out like yesterdays trash, that's what will happen. If he wants to kick and scream, there will be at least 4 Secret Service guys, one to hold each extremity.
Those people swear an oath to the Constitution, not the man.
As much as he might like to think he would get away with anything like that, he won't. In spite of how it may sometimes appear, this country has much stronger institutions than this asshole.
And if his base rises up, let them. 1/3rd of the country being pissed off is not something new. There was 30% of the electorate who would have followed Nixon to the gates of hell, also.
brooklynite
(95,013 posts)...nor does he have control of law enforcement to cast blame where he wants it.
ProfessorPlum
(11,284 posts)and has been relying on gerrymandering, voter suppression, fearmongering, and hatemongering. Nothing new for them.
A HERETIC I AM
(24,382 posts)The article linked in the above;
Jude Wanniski: Taxes and a Two-Santa Theory
https://wallstreetpit.com/26546-jude-wanniski-taxes-and-a-two-santa-theory/
erronis
(15,470 posts)Not to disparage these articles, I just find them interesting but not necessarily very truthy.
ProfessorPlum
(11,284 posts)it's a favorite article and topic of his
1democracy
(167 posts)as another thread states, it won't even take a Reichstag fire- all it takes is a liar to lie about a crisis, and we all know he is lying and McConnell and Graham are letting him get away from it. Why?