Unfortunately, it takes two to make a Congress.

It makes me so angry. Seems some who call themselves Democrats can't stand to see us win.

the time. I am thoroughly pleased with our team.

Basically with attitude that if X in office, then X is suspect

The immediate attacks here on Obama after his 1st inauguration sent me to other less anti-Obama sites for 2 plus yrs

It broke my heart seeing what was being said about him.

I came here right before the 2012 election and frankly when I found the BOG, Barack Obama Group, I stayed there for some time before I got my legs here. I could not believe the 360 turn on Obama.

For me, he was one of the best.

Bash the radicalized Republicans (who are now the gutless GOP cowering before the Russian Agent Orange), not the Democrats fighting destruction and propaganda.

I expect some of the critics to be trojan horses -- paid or unpaid astroturfers trying to sow division and distrust.

Called a Piece of shit used car salesman on a Democratic board. The crowd roared in glee. Sigh.

I ran into that very term on some sites that are supposed to be non-political -- religious and political discussions were supposed to be 'forbidden'. Turned out that racist, pro-right political commentary was allowed.

It's surprising such disparagement of our first black President appeared here. Easy to see why you were angry.

I'm thinking that must not have been much of a Democratic board.

All the flack O had to take from racists made me sick. He was a great president. He accomplished great things. After eight years of his stewardship, he passed a prosperous nation to the traitor Trump, who has set us back decades in two short, destructive years.

I think the blue House is a precursor to us taking the government after the Republican party self-destructs in an orgy of treasonous corruption. It's already unraveling. They will go the way of the Whigs way back when.

There's going to be a very big dust-up, and with luck this nation will still be standing when it is over. At that point, I believe it is our party that will evolve into a centrist group and a progressive group.

Now, I'm quite progressive, but I was not for someone 'younger' to be Speaker. We needed Pelosi. More specifically, her experience. We're in uncharted territory here. I'm thinking that much of the GOP, more than we might think, are involved with Russia - the party itself has become a treasonous canker throbbing on our body-politic, and with today's news it is finally beginning to look as though it will finally be excised.

But there will be a big dust up first - a full blown Constitutional crisis. No...Pelosi knows she needs to keep the young ones in check until the time is right, and I believe she'll be a more effective manager of our progressive youth than Boehner was his 'freedom caucus.'

In the meantime, I love AOC. She's really twisting up the old right-wing blogosphere.

That was an over-the-top ad hominem attack.

I can remember participating in debates about TPP. There were some things I genuinely disliked about it - the secrecy, the ISDS portions. I see now that farmers are being hurt yet again because Trump withdrew us from TPP on his third day in office - so basically other markets around the Pacific Rim are closed to them now, not just China.

I'm smiling and shaking my head now, because I downloaded the TPP agreement from Wikileaks and actually waded through the thing. That was a complicated agreement. It really was.

And, yes, I did criticize Obama over the secrecy surrounding it - letting congress members read it but not allowing them to take notes or have copies. I actually, if you will recall, got banned from a room over it.

To my mind we must always be careful - if a Democrat does something that we don't like, debate is good, and we had a vigorous one about TPP.

But Obama was not then, and has never been, anything like a 'used car salesman.' He acted in good faith.

I was proud of him as president, and still think he was the best in my lifetime, but I wouldn't be human if I had agreed with everything the man did.

The post stood for several weeks, unable to be juried away, before the vile OPer deleted it, which locked the thread... but the post was as follows -

....after his inauguration in 2009. People were already whining about him not addressing his campaign promises, in FEBRUARY!!!

Yep. Yep.

Two weeks into his first term. Two weeks after the economic collapse of years of GOP failures. The beginnings of a Great Depression...they were saying he failed his supporters while he tried to right the wrongs.

Sigh.

WTF ... unbelievable

All I'm saying is... now is the time for ALL HANDS ON DECK with one single goal. Time to put away the purity and vanity and the foolish and misguided philosophy of "destroy the party to rebuild the party". That an outdated Sarandonesque and Uyguresque and destructive "Justice Democrats" way of thinking. It will set us behind every time. It gives the advantage to the GOP every time. Anything that weakens Democrats only serves to benefit the GOP (and Russia). It serves no good purpose to do things that benefit Russia.

because most, if not all of those posters are long gone. I've been here since 2002.

(And I'll just leave it at that.)

and there are Sarandons and Cenks of this world who perhaps get a lot of money from republicans and some independents who want to take advantage of the frustrating situation the electorate finds itself in.

Some easily persuadable "low hanging fruit" are manipulated by the non-democrats claiming to be democrats or claiming to be "every bit as good if not better" and are spurred on to attack the democrats and the democratic party from within.

I know that the frustration level is high in the electorate and probably higher among some old timers who are impatient for a change.

However, attacking our own people is tantamount to democratic soldiers shooting each other because the war against the republicans is not going so well. It makes no sense. Recruiting a general from outside the party when our party has seasoned commanders makes even less sense.

Who is going to care for the party and its values if we destroy it with infighting?

tightened up. I don't know if you're aware of this, but election night 2016, DU was hacked so massively that this site was down for weeks. It was a cyber attack the likes of which I've never seen. It was terrifying, really, that some entity had the animosity and hatred towards Democrats to do such a thing. It wasn't a kid playing around in his mom's basement. There are dark forces out there, my friend. Welcome to DU!

Russians probably wanted to stop any GOTV to get the orange clown elected and suppress democratic turnout in case any of the "No HIllary" crowd had a change of heart and decided to vote for her.

Link to tweet

Fuck the "Justice Democrats"…they're proudly happy with NOTHING in their "all-or-nothing" mentality. This is the same group that would rather BURN DOWN THEIR OWN HOME instead of fixing a leaky faucet or a squeaky floorboard.

All I'm saying is that Cenk Uygur's "Justice Democrats" (and its supporters and anyone who's ever had anything to do with that group) are dangerous. I do not trust them and I question their motivation.

Must. Unclench. Jaw.

Interesting image. Our donkey now has wings? Well I know unicorns do. They are mythical beasts. Us donkeys have been around forever. Staid and true.

"running as a donkey" because donkeys is where the resources and media attention is.

This propaganda is boring.

has a statistical and metaphysical certitude or them getting nothing.

One never ever gets it all. (Unless one is a dictator perhaps)

obstruction by the despicable “thugs,” did an incredible job. Just imagine what he could’ve accomplished had the “dissatisfied fools” bothered to get off their asses and vote in 2010 & 2014! 🥴😱 I vote every two years. Not just every four. I hope we, as a party, have learned that hard lesson.

Some will toss away their privilege to vote in a tantrum because their candidate did not win. Me? I vote for the Democrat every dayum time no matter... even if the candidate was not my first choice. Fact is women fought long and hard to get the RIGHT to vote. They were beaten, starved and tortured...never give up our right.

I vote as you do. Every election

people that voted for Obama in 2008-2012 stayed home in 2010-2014. But the even bigger shame is that many of those same folks voted Twitler in 2016. 😳😱🥴🤪

I'd feel shame till the day I die.

You said it perfectly so I don’t need to add anything at this point.

It’s going to take years to turn this around and hopefully create something better and stronger. If people think differently frankly I think they can’t be very smart.

I agree. We unite together or just toss it all away. My preference is to unite. We shall see what others decide.

A true Democratic party does not tear our foundation down to build another. We unite as one.

to defend our fundamental principles and, as in this case, our Democracy. The little in party spats need to take a time out right now. This is not business as usual.

As long as the majority do this we’ll survive as a party.

This shit of tearing the party apart because you aren’t getting your instant gratification is as destructive as the Republicans are (thanks to Trump).

We can't put up with another "trump habit" of him shutting down the government (for the next two years) every time he doesn't get his way.

Trump created this mess, now the GOP is going to be blamed for not cleaning it up.

I was thinking that heck...they are moving on things so fast! It started on Day One. I did a post about several KEY bills they introduced, and no one even read it.

Maybe some only care about a "show" on tv, or only about some issues.

The House is moving very fast, IMO. There is a LOT to do. I was wondering recently how they could possibly handle all this. There hasn't been a time in my memory where things are so messed up and so critical to the country and its democracy...and our rights.

I think they're doing a fantastic job.

I like the man and his family for all they did for us. We were a happier healthier nation then despite our troubles. He never lost faith in the American people and tried his best to lift us up.

Then there was Michelle. Let's move! Working with children everywhere. Nutrition, exercise and self esteem. Never saw her wear a jacket saying "I really don't care. do you?"

I agree the house is on the move and Nancy is in charge and will get as much as the antiquated stale, old white boys in the Senate will allow. They met their match with Nance!

I know greed isn’t a verb but...it worked.

That would do the world a LOT of good.

The people inside the party launching grenades should actually get some experience in governing and legislating before they do so.

Not every district is in the Burroughs of NYC .... there are some conservative districts that lean democratic and one has to be sensitive to those people as well.

A person elected to congress is primarily serving their district but is ALSO serving ALL of America.

I think it’s a response to a problem that neither Republicans or Democrats have been able to address and that is growing income inequality. When I look at my college town in Oregon where there was one homeless woman in the 80’s and contrast that to today with homeless people holding cardboard signs on street corners everywhere, I know something has gone really wrong. It’s frustrating to see Democrats gain power and be unable to address the problem significantly. But Wall Street has a hold on Democrats too. Money has too much sway in both parties. I don’t know what the answer is. And climate change clouds my brain further.

The right wing trolls were trashing Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez before she won her primary.

...in Grace Meng's district and still have family in the area.

When Obama was president.

I think Democratic reps aren't willing to waste time on futile votes with so much else on fire.

Obviously not an ideal situation to take back the house during a government shutdown. I don’t think we have time to deal with impeachment while workers aren’t being paid, our national parks aren’t being protected, our airports aren’t secure, food stamps recipients are in jeopardy, tax returns will be delayed, etc., etc.

That said, we are conducting investigations while trying to put shit back on track. Impeachment will probably be the result of those investigations.

Strong evidence is needed which Mueller will provide.

I know it is written by a Repub troll who refuses to acknowledge that their party has fucked everything up

They should be ashamed

who ratfucked us in 2016 because 99% of them have not changed their stripes under Trump and have every intention of doing the same to us next year.

DUers *MUST* recognize these reptiles and saboteurs so there's no shock or surprise this time around -- I have called out most of the prominent ones on multiple occasions and some other DUer I can't remember used to have the official list so protect yourselves by knowing the enemy!