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malaise

(269,292 posts)
Mon Jan 14, 2019, 07:18 AM Jan 2019

Have you ever watched a movie and know that the villain is going down

and just can 't wait to watch him crash and burn.
Sadly this movie has been going on for three years but the end is nigh!
I so want to see total and complete humiliation before I see The End.
How did this ever happen?
From the day he first said 'no collusion', I knew there was massive collusion.
He is a treasonous criminal. Obstruction of justice coming up and much more.
ITTMF!

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Have you ever watched a movie and know that the villain is going down (Original Post) malaise Jan 2019 OP
'total and complete humiliation', and exposure, and 'con 'education', is empedocles Jan 2019 #1
I lose a lot of sleep wondering how this happened! democratisphere Jan 2019 #2
That has ALWAYS been Scarsdale Jan 2019 #3
That is exactly why I can not sleep! democratisphere Jan 2019 #5
+1 2naSalit Jan 2019 #9
"come close to destroying this country"? HipChick Jan 2019 #33
I think the USA needs a Truth and Reconciliation Committee malaise Jan 2019 #4
Sure is treason! democratisphere Jan 2019 #6
What will help keep it from happening again Mr.Bill Jan 2019 #22
THIS. Nothing else but hard time will stop this sort of shit. That's the only thing they are Nay Jan 2019 #41
I want to see Botany Jan 2019 #7
Great post malaise Jan 2019 #8
Fox empire must be dissolved...nt 2naSalit Jan 2019 #10
This subject has not come up but Timmygoat Jan 2019 #14
He's so filthy... 2naSalit Jan 2019 #15
And never forget that Manafort, a Russian Agent picked Pence to be V.P.. Botany Jan 2019 #19
That's a good list - for openers. empedocles Jan 2019 #12
That would be justice! democratisphere Jan 2019 #13
YES! Add the NRA/Russia collusion fully exposed to weaken the death lobby hold on Congress. FailureToCommunicate Jan 2019 #18
This is how I feel too. llmart Jan 2019 #20
McConnell was told about Russia's interference in our elections and choose to hide it well ... Botany Jan 2019 #21
Never forget that McCarthy told a group of ReTHUGs that malaise Jan 2019 #24
From the New Yorker .... Ryan, "This is how we know we're a real family here." Botany Jan 2019 #25
A fugging mob family malaise Jan 2019 #27
Bingo! c-rational Jan 2019 #26
Yes! Dem_4_Life Jan 2019 #48
+1 dalton99a Jan 2019 #50
Great post! duforsure Jan 2019 #11
+1 2naSalit Jan 2019 #16
Not Gitmo unless you can guarantee a Cat5 hurricane malaise Jan 2019 #17
This whole experience IS like a movie. mwb970 Jan 2019 #23
I'm still waiting for bush/cheney to go down scarytomcat Jan 2019 #28
And the day he said PatSeg Jan 2019 #29
He is the emperor of malaise Jan 2019 #31
Who knew it would be so easy PatSeg Jan 2019 #34
It's all about the money. If Trump hadn't gotten millions of dollars from daddy, he'd be Nay Jan 2019 #42
Yes PatSeg Jan 2019 #49
Like with people, movies have a few basic pattern traits. Once you know them, you know the ending. TheBlackAdder Jan 2019 #30
He has three basic traits malaise Jan 2019 #32
His weird rage, where he has to be angry implies Borderline Personality Disorder, it encompasses all TheBlackAdder Jan 2019 #36
Borderline? malaise Jan 2019 #37
Yeah, he's way past borderline. nt Nay Jan 2019 #43
Probably over the top, but edhopper Jan 2019 #35
I'd love to watch him jump from his malaise Jan 2019 #38
When I am watching a movie like that coeur_de_lion Jan 2019 #39
ROFL malaise Jan 2019 #40
Good to laugh coeur_de_lion Jan 2019 #54
"Fast forward broken" -- true. For two years, I've felt like I've been crawling over broken glass. Nay Jan 2019 #47
Maybe not broken glass coeur_de_lion Jan 2019 #55
ITMFA and investigate the gutless GOP Hermit-The-Prog Jan 2019 #44
They made this movie way too long. Time to wrap it up. Claritie Pixie Jan 2019 #45
Agree n/t malaise Jan 2019 #51
Like an episode of Columbo. We're in on the perps deed, watching detective get the goods on him. nt Cognitive_Resonance Jan 2019 #46
I want to see them take him away malaise Jan 2019 #52
Funny tweet underpants Jan 2019 #53
And that was two years ago malaise Jan 2019 #56

empedocles

(15,751 posts)
1. 'total and complete humiliation', and exposure, and 'con 'education', is
Mon Jan 14, 2019, 07:23 AM
Jan 2019

necessary before we see 'The End'.

democratisphere

(17,235 posts)
2. I lose a lot of sleep wondering how this happened!
Mon Jan 14, 2019, 07:24 AM
Jan 2019

With the new Redumblicon party, what is to prevent it from happening again?! Lying, cheating and stealing to win elections is their new normal!

Scarsdale

(9,426 posts)
3. That has ALWAYS been
Mon Jan 14, 2019, 07:30 AM
Jan 2019

election plans. This time, Russia "upped the ante" pouring much more money into the pot. Once they decided tRump was their guy in DC, they pulled out all the stops. He has come close to destroying this country, without a single shot fired from Russia. Wave a few million at the gop party, and they will crawl over broken glass to get it. If Putin decided to run for the WH, the gop would help him get US citizenship.

HipChick

(25,485 posts)
33. "come close to destroying this country"?
Mon Jan 14, 2019, 10:36 AM
Jan 2019

I feel it's not over yet, like we won't discuss the entirety of the damage and corruption till after they have gone

malaise

(269,292 posts)
4. I think the USA needs a Truth and Reconciliation Committee
Mon Jan 14, 2019, 07:33 AM
Jan 2019

to investigate this mess starting from the stealing of the 2000 Presidential Election.
Before that this Con and his fellow ReTHUG enablers have to be punished.
This is for profit and for power treason.

democratisphere

(17,235 posts)
6. Sure is treason!
Mon Jan 14, 2019, 07:40 AM
Jan 2019

Is treason part of the Redumblicon's new normal?! I believe it is with drumpf having so many Redumblicon Congressional and Judicial supporters!

Mr.Bill

(24,368 posts)
22. What will help keep it from happening again
Mon Jan 14, 2019, 08:47 AM
Jan 2019

is lots of people going to prison for a long time. This is happening now because Nixon didn't die in prison.


No more trading amnesty for a resignation. They are criminals and need to be treated as such.

Nay

(12,051 posts)
41. THIS. Nothing else but hard time will stop this sort of shit. That's the only thing they are
Mon Jan 14, 2019, 12:35 PM
Jan 2019

afraid of -- losing their personal physical freedom. All other 'penalties' can be smoothed over with money.

Botany

(70,643 posts)
7. I want to see
Mon Jan 14, 2019, 07:42 AM
Jan 2019

His family wiped out financially and have to give up all their ill gotten goods.
Trump, his family, and backers face criminal prosecution.
McConnell, Ryan, Sessions, and company who had knowledge of the Trump/Russia connections
be publicly exposed for their un-America actions.
Pressure put on to remove Trump's Supreme Court appointments.
Players like the Mercers, Bannon, and the Koch wiped out.
The link between Fox News/Hannity and Russia/Putin exposed.

Timmygoat

(779 posts)
14. This subject has not come up but
Mon Jan 14, 2019, 07:57 AM
Jan 2019

I cannot help think that Pence is a co-conspirator, he must be blind and deaf if he does not know what is going on.

empedocles

(15,751 posts)
12. That's a good list - for openers.
Mon Jan 14, 2019, 07:55 AM
Jan 2019


[WH staffers, lobbyists, fox in general, next levels of campaign contributors/political organizations like NRA/, political supporters, etc., . . .]

llmart

(15,567 posts)
20. This is how I feel too.
Mon Jan 14, 2019, 08:41 AM
Jan 2019

It isn't enough to just get rid of Trump. His family needs to be prosecuted also and none of this "for the sake of our country we must move on" baloney.

Botany

(70,643 posts)
21. McConnell was told about Russia's interference in our elections and choose to hide it well ...
Mon Jan 14, 2019, 08:45 AM
Jan 2019

... blocking Merrick Garland for even getting a vote in the senate for SCOTUS.

Russia couldn't have done what they did without help from inside of America.


malaise

(269,292 posts)
24. Never forget that McCarthy told a group of ReTHUGs that
Mon Jan 14, 2019, 09:22 AM
Jan 2019

Putin pays the Con and lyin' Ryan, the Speaker no less told them to keep it secret.
And further they lied and said it was not true. When confronted with audio evidence, the enablers said it was a joke.

Botany

(70,643 posts)
25. From the New Yorker .... Ryan, "This is how we know we're a real family here."
Mon Jan 14, 2019, 09:26 AM
Jan 2019


“There’s two people I think Putin pays: Rohrabacher and Trump,” McCarthy said, according to Entous, a superb reporter who heard a tape recording of the colloquy. “Swear to God.”

Dana Rohrabacher is a Republican from California with a peculiar amalgam of views: pro-marijuana, dubious about climate change, pro-torture. For this last position, in 2007, Keith Olbermann awarded him his periodic “Worst Person in the World” award, on his old MSNBC show. Like Trump, Rohrabacher has been highly solicitous of Russian President Vladimir Putin. Last year, Politico ran an article on Rohrabacher called “Putin’s Favorite Congressman.”

In the Post piece, McCarthy’s remark is met with laughter, and Ryan cautions his colleagues, “This is an off the record . . . No leaks! . . . All right?”

And then, amid more laughter, Ryan says, “This is how we know we’re a real family here.”

malaise

(269,292 posts)
27. A fugging mob family
Mon Jan 14, 2019, 09:36 AM
Jan 2019

indeed.
I hope Ryan ends up in prison - the treasonous scumbag. I am convinced that this was the reason he did not run again.

duforsure

(11,885 posts)
11. Great post!
Mon Jan 14, 2019, 07:55 AM
Jan 2019

I'm hoping they sweep them all up as terrorists , and send them to Gitmo forever , and save millions in trials and legal costs for the country, and put them where they deserve to go. Special laws passed after 911 against terrorist would give them that option , because he's terrorizing this country with the gop helping for putin. Putin with trump and McConnell's help have been busy stacking the courts with appointments for their own self protection. This shutdown is another form of it .

malaise

(269,292 posts)
17. Not Gitmo unless you can guarantee a Cat5 hurricane
Mon Jan 14, 2019, 08:21 AM
Jan 2019

And since that would hurt my Cuban neighbors, I can't wish for that.

mwb970

(11,375 posts)
23. This whole experience IS like a movie.
Mon Jan 14, 2019, 09:07 AM
Jan 2019

One pattern I have noticed in movies and TV shows is that the villain is often portrayed in early scenes as impossibly, almost comically vile and evil, strangling babies or shooting children on Santa's lap or some over-the-top act like that. As soon as I see this I immediately think "Well, that guy is going to die before this thing is over".

I think the writers want to justify killing off a main character by making him SO bad that the audience WANTS him dead. This is pretty much where we are with trump now.

PatSeg

(47,750 posts)
29. And the day he said
Mon Jan 14, 2019, 10:16 AM
Jan 2019

“No puppet. No puppet. You’re the puppet,” to Hillary during a debate. She had obviously hit a nerve when she said, “That’s because he’d (Putin) rather have a puppet as president of the United States."

He was so rattled and uncomfortable, his guilt was on display for the entire world, except for those who refused to see. He could have admitted he was colluding with Putin and his hard core base still would have supported him.

PatSeg

(47,750 posts)
34. Who knew it would be so easy
Mon Jan 14, 2019, 10:39 AM
Jan 2019

I always thought that to be a successful con artist, you had to have tremendous skill and charisma, like Harold Hill in The Music Man or Bill Starbuck in The Rainmaker. Oh no, a gross inarticulate old man with no single redeeming quality can win over these pathetic losers apparently by appealing to their hate.

Nay

(12,051 posts)
42. It's all about the money. If Trump hadn't gotten millions of dollars from daddy, he'd be
Mon Jan 14, 2019, 12:38 PM
Jan 2019

a 7-11 cashier somewhere. And no one would pay one second's worth of attention to him.

PatSeg

(47,750 posts)
49. Yes
Mon Jan 14, 2019, 01:37 PM
Jan 2019

I picture him as that disgruntled and annoying jerk at the end of the bar, complaining about his boss or his ungrateful wife or politicians. He would also be a Cliff Clavin style know-it-all that most patrons would avoid, unless he was buying drinks. His sexual prowess would be "legend" at least in his own mind and most people would be laughing behind his back.

Every bar has one and we've all met him!

TheBlackAdder

(28,253 posts)
30. Like with people, movies have a few basic pattern traits. Once you know them, you know the ending.
Mon Jan 14, 2019, 10:18 AM
Jan 2019

.

In movies, the introduction of people has to come relatively early. All devices, capabilities and powers, that will be used later, have to be introduces and described. Only things that are important are described and shown, so there is very little fluff or obfuscation.

There are only 8 major pattern traits in people. Everyone thinks they are unique, but fall into one of them.

.

malaise

(269,292 posts)
32. He has three basic traits
Mon Jan 14, 2019, 10:23 AM
Jan 2019

narcissism, pathological lying and projection - attributing to others what he is doing. In his twisted mind, everyone is as venal and corrupt as his Con family.

TheBlackAdder

(28,253 posts)
36. His weird rage, where he has to be angry implies Borderline Personality Disorder, it encompasses all
Mon Jan 14, 2019, 11:11 AM
Jan 2019

.

He seems to exhibit many of the traits, including abandonment issues, aggrandizing people then turning on them, unsafe sex, the shifting of goals, desires and aspirations, self-damaging behavior, easily bored, mania, difficulty managing anger, etc.

While everybody focuses on his narcissism, I think they are missing the bigger picture... he's got fucking BPD w/NPD.


https://www.bpdcentral.com/

https://www.bpdcentral.com/narcissistic-disorder/hallmarks-of-npd/

https://psychcentral.com/lib/characteristics-of-borderline-personality-disorder/

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malaise

(269,292 posts)
37. Borderline?
Mon Jan 14, 2019, 11:15 AM
Jan 2019

Bwaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah! That's full blown.
I suspect that all his traits are why they sent him off to military school which clearly did not help.

coeur_de_lion

(3,688 posts)
39. When I am watching a movie like that
Mon Jan 14, 2019, 11:41 AM
Jan 2019

at home I fast forward to the end and watch the bad guy get his.

Fast forward broken on this movie.

Nay

(12,051 posts)
47. "Fast forward broken" -- true. For two years, I've felt like I've been crawling over broken glass.
Mon Jan 14, 2019, 12:41 PM
Jan 2019

coeur_de_lion

(3,688 posts)
55. Maybe not broken glass
Mon Jan 14, 2019, 09:10 PM
Jan 2019

Definitely broken ideals, norms, expectations, values.

Time for all this to fucking over.

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