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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region Forums*How long* can Trump/McConnell keep the shutdown going?
It seems like, politically, he and the Republicans in Congress are taking a beating on this issue and it's only going to get worse for them. The shutdown now has gone on longer than any previous ones. And it's over something that Trump wants that the public doesn't. What will be their tipping point? *What* will get McConnell/GOP to force a vote and potential override vote to (fully) re-open our government? Trump says that this may last "months or years" but there's no way *that* can happen...........is there?
zipplewrath
(16,646 posts)We don't really know. They seem to make up rules as they go along to avoid the more catastrophic consequences. Probably the most reasonable conclusion is that it will be over when "Wall Street" wants it to be over. Alternately, a natural disaster or terrorist incident could force congress to act.
Proud Liberal Dem
(24,456 posts)I sure as heck hope it doesn't come to that.
AlexSFCA
(6,139 posts)they would also be totally fine of not paying back furloughed workers.
book_worm
(15,951 posts)even more so than it is right now. That said it could be weeks or longer.
CrispyQ
(36,562 posts)Trump is loyal to Trump. That is all. He does not care about the 1%. He does not care about the market. He cares about Trump & making money & keeping his ass out of jail, in that order. If his base stays solidly behind him, & a good number of them will because they will blame the democrats for the shutdown, Trump will take the whole thing down. He doesn't give one shit about anyone but himself.
malaise
(269,292 posts)this shit will end
mnhtnbb
(31,417 posts)stage a walk out. Damn thing will end.
Two people--two fu*king people--Trump and McConnell--have shut down this government. That is not even close to democracy. Forget the Republic.
If this were France, those two fu*kers would be gone and the government would be open for normal looting by Republicans.
malaise
(269,292 posts)for their white supremacist wall.
bdamomma
(63,962 posts)this is not another European country and this will be done as well as a pResident who wrongs his people.
But you ever wonder if this filthy regime would just like to privatize everything even airlines.
LonePirate
(13,441 posts)Arazi
(6,829 posts)LonePirate
(13,441 posts)Arazi
(6,829 posts)lark
(23,193 posts)Voila!
I totally agree that airport closures will do the trick because their funders will revolt and that's all the repug party is about - big $$$. Drumpf and McTurtle want this to continue because PUtin told them to do this and because it allows Russia to hack into voter databases more easily with FEC shuttered and because it stops prosecution of drumpfs criminal enterprises and family, outside of Mueller.
So, to answer the question, this shutdown is going to continue until important airports close and that could take months.
marylandblue
(12,344 posts)If they close down or there are three-hour delays on Friday, the shutdown could end next week.
TrishaJ
(798 posts)refunds.
gratuitous
(82,849 posts)I didn't think McConnell could hold up the Merrick Garland nomination for as long as he did, and I was dead wrong about that. Considering the interconnectedness between McConnell and the White House (McConnell's wife is the Secretary of Transportation, and is almost surely using that position to advance her family's fortunes), McConnell has no incentive to make the government work while he and his wife are busy looting the Treasury.
Let me add that this is different because while he controlled the Garland decision-making, citizens facing hardship may soon control this one.
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bdamomma
(63,962 posts)has been screwing the government for a while for his own greedy pleasures.
Ask Kentuckians if he ever did anything good for the people. Why do they keep on voting this scum in?
Mme. Defarge
(8,063 posts)has the same political downside as a government shutdown that hurts his own voters. Because of that I believe (and desperately hope) that this monstrous abuse of government employees and U.S. taxpayers will end within a week or two, if not sooner.
Joe941
(2,848 posts)I can honestly say it hasn't changed anything in my life. None. So who really does it affect?
bdamomma
(63,962 posts)are getting a beating, I think there are some who are totally losing their souls, and losing their moral compass.
Why take it on a National Parks? Vandalism and cutting down trees why is that????
lunatica
(53,410 posts)I actually saw her say this. She waved her arms and tossed her hair around in emphasis when she said it, with her eyes bulging out to add effect. She said it as if she was quoting god.
bdamomma
(63,962 posts)that piece of waste.
malaise
(269,292 posts)and that was mild
kimbutgar
(21,278 posts)A little snip snip here and there forcing her to cut it short, she would be one ugly man without that hair.
beachbum bob
(10,437 posts)McConnel has to placed in full GOP senate revolt. Dems have to stand firm.
Make trump proud of his shutdown.
bdamomma
(63,962 posts)I wish we could keep playing that Dec. 11th farce in the Oval Office when Pence was asleep and Schumer and Pelosi were there.
He owned it and said it. I would keep on playing that if I worked for the media.
0rganism
(23,991 posts)we're about to find out the answer, any month now...
lunatica
(53,410 posts)However long that takes.
LastLiberal in PalmSprings
(12,601 posts)But other than low-paying service jobs, who's going to hire someone who could leave the moment that Trump/McConnell declare victory and end the shutdown?
Those workers with the skills to get good paying permanent jobs are not coming back, and our government will be weaker because of it.
Just as Putin wanted.
Mission accomplished.
clutterbox1830
(395 posts)If it last more than a month
TSA and air traffic controllers will no longer show up for work creating havoc to travel.
Secret service will no longer show up for work and Trump will no longer be able to travel.
No tax refunds will be returned and no one will check if taxes are collected.
Guards at federal prison will report to work.
Stock markets will fall with lack of productive and income.
Water and electricity will eventually be turn off even for Washington.
The list goes on.
kimbutgar
(21,278 posts)In Kentucky. And asking, does he support Putins puppet in the White House?
Also expose him and his wife profiting off our government.
SKKY
(11,835 posts)...or the Republicans to grow a set. I can tell you where my bets are placed.
Thomas Hurt
(13,903 posts)Tracyjo
(729 posts)Maybe he'll know. :
Baltimike
(4,148 posts)kairos12
(12,901 posts)are scared shitless of them. This is the new normal. Dems have empathy, the Reich Wing none. That trait is our greatest asset and weakness.