Incoming will be incoming ... because how dare you attack her this way ...

who could have predicted the fury and viciousness with which anyone not kowtowing to Rep. Ocasio-Cortez has been attacked in this thread. You really called this one.

You haven't yet gotten the full swarm treatment

But thank you for the warning.

Gillibrand was just reelected and is not up again until 2024

And if she could acknowledge that the green deal idea and others are NOT unique to her, she did NOT create them.

That she is one part of a bigger whole, etc.

She is new, and makes great media copy with her quotes, and dancing, and quick replies.

But so was Sarah Palin. Celebrity is no substitute for accomplishment.

My hope is that Ms. Ocasio-Cortez grows into a political example for progressives.

have been more patient, and learned the ropes, and listened to their elders? Or should they have plowed straight ahead and changed the consensus, instead of accepting it?

MLK had been the pastor of his first church for less than a year before he organized the bus boycott. He was 25 or 26.

AOC is an organizer/ movement leader. “Congresswoman” is her other job.

First of all, Dr. King didn't "organize" the boycott. The boycott was organized by numerous people in the civil rights establishment. They asked Dr. King to be the efforts' spokesperson.

Please go learn some history.

Neither Dr. King nor John Lewis jumped into the fray and started telling their elders what they were doing wrong. They were very respectful and deferential, listened more than they talked, learned and collaborated before stepping out in front.

Please learn the history of the movement before trying to misuse it to justify a non-equivalent point. You might want to start with "Parting the Waters," the first book in Taylor Branch's trilogy on the civil rights movement.

it's why many still don't know about rosa parks history in the civil rights movement before she refused to move from the bus.

The assumption that Mrs. Parks was a passive victim, that the bus boycott started the civil Rights movement and Dr. King played a larger role in the movement than he actually did are just three of the most galling misperceptions.

However, I can handle that but I have little - actually NO - patience with people who deign to lecture us about how modern day figures compare to these heroes while completely misunderstanding and mischaracterizing what they actually did.

And anyone who does so knows that a recognition of the rules makes for a more successful leader.

so being "established" is not by definition a good thing, is it? The US govt. with its division of powers and checks and balances was designed to be conservative in the sense of stability--it is difficult to make it move, even without one party determined to prevent any such thing. Given that framework, and faced with a number of enormous challenges, I am biased in favor of those who are not willing to accept the status quo and are not willing to sit quietly. ymmv

What's that old line? "Well-behaved women seldom make history"?

her vote is as powerful as 434 other votes in the house. She is the only representative from her district. We’ve been longing for dems like her while witnessing that ‘consensus building’ over the years has mostly helped the very wealthiest ones. I actually hope that congress doesn’t change her. That she doesn’t become like almost anyone there worrying about losing the next election.

comes in response to more information.

And 1 vote will not get a Bill through Committee.

And she can dance, too.

I'm 54. If she were my daughter, I'd be insufferably proud. You'd hate to be around me.

It gives me hope.

Experience combined with knowledge is necessary. Speaker Pelosi has both.

legislation and getting it moved through both houses of Congress is the hard part. Hope she has some good teachers and can listen to their knowledge in the next 11 months, time left until she has to start running for reelection.

K and r.