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angrychair

(8,759 posts)
Tue Jan 15, 2019, 02:27 PM Jan 2019

Why is the Senate confirming positions for trump?

I think there is an argument to be made that if McConnell cannot be bothered to put the clean CRs up for a vote that Dems should not show up and deny republicans a quorum if possible or at the very least refuse to participate in anything until those bills are allowed, at the very least, an up or down vote in the senate.

No pain is felt in the Senate if we keep going about normal business while trump is holding the rest of govt hostage.

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Why is the Senate confirming positions for trump? (Original Post) angrychair Jan 2019 OP
Agreed. And Democrats would win public opinion by saying "we are making the Doodley Jan 2019 #1
He can confirm whoever he likes The Truth Is Here Jan 2019 #2
They need to confirm as many appointments as possible as fast as possible. Freethinker65 Jan 2019 #3
they could object to any bill Hermit-The-Prog Jan 2019 #4
It doesn't work that way and stop blaming Democats...when some chose to screw Democratic Demsrule86 Jan 2019 #5
I was in no way "blaming Democrats" angrychair Jan 2019 #6
McConnell has no need for Democrats to show up. former9thward Jan 2019 #7
Their constituents expect them to show up and vote, not stage empty protests that change nothing EffieBlack Jan 2019 #8
The whole thing accomplishes nothing angrychair Jan 2019 #9
It's interesting you re complaining about the harship of the shutdown of one branch of government EffieBlack Jan 2019 #11
It has been tried before and it doesn't work...the idea is Democrats are not doing enough to stop Demsrule86 Jan 2019 #14
Not saying they are doing bad angrychair Jan 2019 #16
Actually, they are forced to to show up Polybius Jan 2019 #17
"Nothing forces them to show up for hearings or votes. " Ummmm....... WillowTree Jan 2019 #18
I get tired of threads placing blame for Senate actions on Democratic Senators GulfCoast66 Jan 2019 #10
Great point. Refusing to cooperate on GOP motions especially appointments PufPuf23 Jan 2019 #12
It doesn't work that way mcar Jan 2019 #13
How would Democrats not showing up deny Republicans a Quorum? brooklynite Jan 2019 #15

Doodley

(9,177 posts)
1. Agreed. And Democrats would win public opinion by saying "we are making the
Tue Jan 15, 2019, 02:32 PM
Jan 2019

reopening of government the number one priority."

 

The Truth Is Here

(354 posts)
2. He can confirm whoever he likes
Tue Jan 15, 2019, 02:35 PM
Jan 2019

He doesn't have to listen to anyone. And hasn't since 2006.

Need a permanent workaround against this fuckhole for obstructing the government's business.

Freethinker65

(10,118 posts)
3. They need to confirm as many appointments as possible as fast as possible.
Tue Jan 15, 2019, 02:37 PM
Jan 2019

Time may be running out if Trump goes down and takes many of the GOP with him.

And if Trump survives, the Senate has only two guaranteed years of majority rule and just witnessed the change in the House. They need to please their donors to keep their campaign funds stuffed and be assured if they lose or resign, they will be offered better paying jobs once they leave the Senate.

Demsrule86

(68,861 posts)
5. It doesn't work that way and stop blaming Democats...when some chose to screw Democratic
Tue Jan 15, 2019, 03:31 PM
Jan 2019

candidates and didn't vote for even progressives like Feingold, it became inevitable that the GOP would get judges and anyone else Trump chose...this is why I will never forgive those who participated in this debacle...Sarandon, Turner, Cent, Greens etc.

angrychair

(8,759 posts)
6. I was in no way "blaming Democrats"
Tue Jan 15, 2019, 07:26 PM
Jan 2019

I would request you read what I wrote again.

That said, it does work that way. Nothing forces them to show up for hearings or votes.

It is absurd to act as if what is going on is normal or it’s business as usual. What are we getting by continuing to confirm more partisan sycophants? It’s little more than being asked to dig our own grave.
The House should keep doing what it’s doing but until McConnell et al are ready to cooperate and at the very least put the bills on the floor for a vote, why do anything they want in the Senate? It’s pointless and does nothing for the hundreds of thousands impacted by this nonsense.

former9thward

(32,169 posts)
7. McConnell has no need for Democrats to show up.
Tue Jan 15, 2019, 08:05 PM
Jan 2019

He has a quorum with just the Republicans. In fact under Senate rules if no Democrats show up one Republican would be a quorum and could pass anything. The quorum rule is only applied if at least one Senator questions if there is a quorum.

angrychair

(8,759 posts)
9. The whole thing accomplishes nothing
Tue Jan 15, 2019, 08:48 PM
Jan 2019

I find it absurd to continue as business as usual while hundreds of thousands of people are out of work or forced to work without pay and desperately hurting.
It’s quintessential fiddling while Rome burns. It sends the wrong message. Our only and daily message needs to be this shutdown, nothing else.

With these confirmation hearings, it makes people think everyone has moved on to the next shiny thing. All people see is a bunch of well-heeled millionaires acting as if their lives don’t matter right when they are most vulnerable and becoming increasingly desperate. It sends the wrong message.
I mean it’s already fallen off the headlines...goes on long enough and it will barely be a footnote on the news cycle.

If we don’t make this the only thing that matters than we risk political damage from this too.

 

EffieBlack

(14,249 posts)
11. It's interesting you re complaining about the harship of the shutdown of one branch of government
Tue Jan 15, 2019, 09:00 PM
Jan 2019

And think the way to address it is to shut down another branch or completely cede it to the Republicans, who would like nothing better than to conduct Senate business without any input from or participation by the Democrats.

They're not fiddling while Rome burns. They're doing their jobs they were sent to Washington to do. and staying at home certainly would not bring more attention to the government shutdown - it would simply give the Republicans the entire Senate the national platform it provides to themselves.

Fortunately, most constituents, I suspect, don't think like you do and appreciate their senators - who aren't all "well-heeled millionaires" - going to work every day and doing the best they can.

Demsrule86

(68,861 posts)
14. It has been tried before and it doesn't work...the idea is Democrats are not doing enough to stop
Tue Jan 15, 2019, 10:17 PM
Jan 2019

Trump's AG...well the voters kneecapped Democrats in 16....so this is how it goes. I consider the Democrats have done a great job.

angrychair

(8,759 posts)
16. Not saying they are doing bad
Tue Jan 15, 2019, 11:01 PM
Jan 2019

The whole point of my OP was to just float the concept that Democrats should use every parliamentary trick up their sleeve to hold up and drag things out as long as possible and to do everything they can to remind republicans of the government shutdown and its impact every day it goes on and the fact that their Party’s leader, trump, is, by all public accounts, a foreign agent of a hostile power.

Polybius

(15,537 posts)
17. Actually, they are forced to to show up
Wed Jan 16, 2019, 01:08 AM
Jan 2019

The Sergeant at Arms can physically bring them to the floor.

WillowTree

(5,325 posts)
18. "Nothing forces them to show up for hearings or votes. " Ummmm.......
Wed Jan 16, 2019, 01:16 AM
Jan 2019

You're not familiar with the rules of the Senate, are you?

This nonsense comes up every so often and it always amuses me.

GulfCoast66

(11,949 posts)
10. I get tired of threads placing blame for Senate actions on Democratic Senators
Tue Jan 15, 2019, 08:53 PM
Jan 2019

Especially when they lack an understanding of the Senate rules.

If no democrats showed up then there would be no questions, no debate and a quick vote.

On votes that do still require 60 votes the Senate Democrats are holding up progressive.

We cannot stop appointments.

PufPuf23

(8,858 posts)
12. Great point. Refusing to cooperate on GOP motions especially appointments
Tue Jan 15, 2019, 09:14 PM
Jan 2019

is an obvious lever against the federal government held hostage.

My druthers would be for the Hosue to hold a roll call vote on impeachment each Monday until Trump is gone. The take aim on the Trump confederates and enablers and financial criminals.

Wish we had control of the Senate and McConnell gone. He needs to go.

They want to break federal government and the damge compounds daily.

brooklynite

(95,036 posts)
15. How would Democrats not showing up deny Republicans a Quorum?
Tue Jan 15, 2019, 10:22 PM
Jan 2019

They have a majority in the Senate and in all Committees.

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