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I think there is an argument to be made that if McConnell cannot be bothered to put the clean CRs up for a vote that Dems should not show up and deny republicans a quorum if possible or at the very least refuse to participate in anything until those bills are allowed, at the very least, an up or down vote in the senate.
No pain is felt in the Senate if we keep going about normal business while trump is holding the rest of govt hostage.
Doodley
(9,177 posts)reopening of government the number one priority."
The Truth Is Here
(354 posts)He doesn't have to listen to anyone. And hasn't since 2006.
Need a permanent workaround against this fuckhole for obstructing the government's business.
Freethinker65
(10,118 posts)Time may be running out if Trump goes down and takes many of the GOP with him.
And if Trump survives, the Senate has only two guaranteed years of majority rule and just witnessed the change in the House. They need to please their donors to keep their campaign funds stuffed and be assured if they lose or resign, they will be offered better paying jobs once they leave the Senate.
Hermit-The-Prog
(33,585 posts)Demsrule86
(68,861 posts)candidates and didn't vote for even progressives like Feingold, it became inevitable that the GOP would get judges and anyone else Trump chose...this is why I will never forgive those who participated in this debacle...Sarandon, Turner, Cent, Greens etc.
angrychair
(8,759 posts)I would request you read what I wrote again.
That said, it does work that way. Nothing forces them to show up for hearings or votes.
It is absurd to act as if what is going on is normal or its business as usual. What are we getting by continuing to confirm more partisan sycophants? Its little more than being asked to dig our own grave.
The House should keep doing what its doing but until McConnell et al are ready to cooperate and at the very least put the bills on the floor for a vote, why do anything they want in the Senate? Its pointless and does nothing for the hundreds of thousands impacted by this nonsense.
former9thward
(32,169 posts)He has a quorum with just the Republicans. In fact under Senate rules if no Democrats show up one Republican would be a quorum and could pass anything. The quorum rule is only applied if at least one Senator questions if there is a quorum.
EffieBlack
(14,249 posts)angrychair
(8,759 posts)I find it absurd to continue as business as usual while hundreds of thousands of people are out of work or forced to work without pay and desperately hurting.
Its quintessential fiddling while Rome burns. It sends the wrong message. Our only and daily message needs to be this shutdown, nothing else.
With these confirmation hearings, it makes people think everyone has moved on to the next shiny thing. All people see is a bunch of well-heeled millionaires acting as if their lives dont matter right when they are most vulnerable and becoming increasingly desperate. It sends the wrong message.
I mean its already fallen off the headlines...goes on long enough and it will barely be a footnote on the news cycle.
If we dont make this the only thing that matters than we risk political damage from this too.
EffieBlack
(14,249 posts)And think the way to address it is to shut down another branch or completely cede it to the Republicans, who would like nothing better than to conduct Senate business without any input from or participation by the Democrats.
They're not fiddling while Rome burns. They're doing their jobs they were sent to Washington to do. and staying at home certainly would not bring more attention to the government shutdown - it would simply give the Republicans the entire Senate the national platform it provides to themselves.
Fortunately, most constituents, I suspect, don't think like you do and appreciate their senators - who aren't all "well-heeled millionaires" - going to work every day and doing the best they can.
Demsrule86
(68,861 posts)Trump's AG...well the voters kneecapped Democrats in 16....so this is how it goes. I consider the Democrats have done a great job.
angrychair
(8,759 posts)The whole point of my OP was to just float the concept that Democrats should use every parliamentary trick up their sleeve to hold up and drag things out as long as possible and to do everything they can to remind republicans of the government shutdown and its impact every day it goes on and the fact that their Partys leader, trump, is, by all public accounts, a foreign agent of a hostile power.
Polybius
(15,537 posts)The Sergeant at Arms can physically bring them to the floor.
WillowTree
(5,325 posts)You're not familiar with the rules of the Senate, are you?
This nonsense comes up every so often and it always amuses me.
GulfCoast66
(11,949 posts)Especially when they lack an understanding of the Senate rules.
If no democrats showed up then there would be no questions, no debate and a quick vote.
On votes that do still require 60 votes the Senate Democrats are holding up progressive.
We cannot stop appointments.
PufPuf23
(8,858 posts)is an obvious lever against the federal government held hostage.
My druthers would be for the Hosue to hold a roll call vote on impeachment each Monday until Trump is gone. The take aim on the Trump confederates and enablers and financial criminals.
Wish we had control of the Senate and McConnell gone. He needs to go.
They want to break federal government and the damge compounds daily.
mcar
(42,475 posts)brooklynite
(95,036 posts)They have a majority in the Senate and in all Committees.