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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsOk, I know in the scheme of things this is minor, but who the hell wears a cowboy hat at WH meeting?
and, yes, a formal meeting with President (yeah, I know) in attendance? Really? One is not required to remove a cowboy hat in the White House?
Is this now a "thing?"
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DURHAM D
(32,618 posts)Not the real Governor but the one who played him on Madam Secretary.
MontanaMama
(23,368 posts)Rude. My mom wouldve tossed his ass out till he took it off.
dflprincess
(28,095 posts)My 8 year old grandnephew recently called out his dad for not remember to remove his cap before sitting down at the table.
LastLiberal in PalmSprings
(12,603 posts)Though fictional, Jed Bartlet was a thousand times the president Trump is.
Kali
(55,032 posts)Polybius
(15,533 posts)My mother tried to convince me to just go and take it off, but to no avail (hats at the table were allowed in my house, growing up in the 80's and 90's). She hated my earring too. Looking back, I wish I had visited my Grandmother a lot more often, but my hat never bothered anyone either.
mr_lebowski
(33,643 posts)right before snapping the shot ... the dude in the red tie to the right of Wilford Brimley there looks EXTREMELY disapproving ... lol ...
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BigmanPigman
(51,672 posts)that a man further down the table from this cowboy dude is another cowboy hat wearing dude (not seen in this picture). I am not familiar with cowboy fashions or hat wearing etiquette so maybe they have their own rules that I am not aware of as a non cowboy hat wearing, east and west coast city dweller.
TreasonousBastard
(43,049 posts)his lapel.
Texas Ranger?
Mayberry PD?
WalMart Security?
RockRaven
(15,096 posts)Wait, is this a trick question?
Generic Brad
(14,276 posts)Without the hat, how else would we know?
ChubbyStar
(3,191 posts)My local bus stop has better looking and better groomed people.
Crutchez_CuiBono
(7,725 posts)Midnightwalk
(3,131 posts)dalton99a
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Two fake cowboys
Blue_Tires
(55,445 posts)winstars
(4,220 posts)"Hi, I have great big hat and a very small penis..."
TeamPooka
(24,303 posts)winstars
(4,220 posts)lpbk2713
(42,775 posts)keithbvadu2
(37,050 posts)lpbk2713
(42,775 posts)I'm glad Dolly Madison isn't around to see what has become of her White House.
Link: https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/reliable-source/wp/2017/04/20/ted-nugent-sarah-palin-and-kid-rock-visited-the-white-house-for-dinner-with-president-trump/?noredirect=on&utm_term=.d92ec747b591
Bayard
(22,238 posts)From some of the bullshit flying out of tRump's mouth.
irisblue
(33,059 posts)That is a tacky fool
TexasBushwhacker
(20,256 posts)irisblue
(33,059 posts)And then his male relatives...would have a serious discussion out back.
Dave Starsky
(5,914 posts)I.e., they own and work on a cattle ranch in Texas.
And, yes, they wear cowboy hats.
They take them off when indoors. Always. They're cowboys, not ill-mannered slobs.
panader0
(25,816 posts)They are polite, "ah shucks" kind of guys. "Yes maam, no sir."
They might keep their hats on at the bar, but not at dinner, or a
big occasion. I'll bet Trump wanted him to wear it--"Here's my cowboy,
where's my African American?"
ProudLib72
(17,984 posts)See all the barnyard animals he's surrounded by?
Crutchez_CuiBono
(7,725 posts)LiberalFighter
(51,388 posts)Might be okay in a porn movie. But at the WH?
DavidDvorkin
(19,510 posts)hlthe2b
(102,561 posts)My very subject line made clear I wasn't making this out to be a critical issue given all that was going on, but rather a curiosity.
Thanks very much for your (total lack of) contribution to civil discourse. Do you feel "superior" now? Just as with wearing a hat at a formal meeting in the White House, your posting makes clear that basic manners are now (perhaps irreparably) eroded.
DavidDvorkin
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fierywoman
(7,707 posts)2naSalit
(86,963 posts)some older guy with one of those museum piece mustache features growing out of his face. He was wearing a c'boy hat too. Apparently those aren't considered hats..?
blogslut
(38,023 posts)Crutchez_CuiBono
(7,725 posts)OnDoutside
(19,987 posts)WePurrsevere
(24,259 posts)Ilsa
(61,717 posts)a place like a navy O-Club. You remove your cover or else someone might take it off for you, and give you a lecture your momma should have given you. I don't know if paying for a round of drinks for everyone in the bar applies to civilians.
bluecollar2
(3,622 posts)In the enlisted club as well.
Ilsa
(61,717 posts)suffer for their transgressions?
bluecollar2
(3,622 posts)Navy regulations/traditions require that hats/covers be removed when indoors.
Civilians are expected to honor regulations/traditions.
Ilsa
(61,717 posts)Texas A&M University has this rule. You are set straight in a hurry. The MSC has a Hall of Honor with biographical information on eight Congressional Medal of Honor recipients that were graduates, and most or all were in the Corps of Cadets.
A&M commissions more officers into the military than any university other than the military academies, last I heard. Enrollment in the Corps of Cadets now stands at 2,560.
USALiberal
(10,877 posts)rogerashton
(3,920 posts)It's a stockman hat, and yes, there is a difference. A cowboy hat would be slouchier -- the two shown in a reply post, whatever they are, are not stockman hats. Wearing it indoors is another matter. My granddad wore a stockman hat outdoors pretty much every day. He was very particular about a proper hat. It would have a level top -- as shown -- and an ample brim. Straw in the summer, felt in the winter. For the felt hat you get a choice of colors: ivory gray or silver gray. And a gentleman never remains uncovered indoors. Wearing those slouchy "cowboy" hats indoors is a boomer thing and goes with line dancing. And, yes, I have a stockman hat on a peg in my foyer. I must have worn it at least once in the last decade.
Kali
(55,032 posts)we just call it a hat. period.
Vinca
(50,334 posts)Anyone who had a grandma knows a man takes his hat off indoors.
KG
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NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)IronLionZion
(45,666 posts)even though Jackson County is quite far from the southern border. It's up the gulf coast near Houston and San Antonio
LakeSuperiorView
(1,533 posts)He think people won't realize that he is an important person unless he has the costume just right. He thinks it makes him look taller, lik Diipshit thinks a long tie makes you less fat.
FSogol
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sweaty doofus.
hack89
(39,171 posts)certainly a LEO.
NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)hack89
(39,171 posts)he is a Texas Ranger.
NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)hack89
(39,171 posts)LanternWaste
(37,748 posts)unless under arms in an official capacity or when directed by the commander.
Try again.
hack89
(39,171 posts)Try again.
Drahthaardogs
(6,843 posts)Wannabe.
MineralMan
(146,351 posts)Wearing hats indoors is doltish and violates all rules of etiquette. Period. Ergo, the man in the hat is a rude moron, as well.
CreekDog
(46,192 posts)hatrack
(59,606 posts).
rogerashton
(3,920 posts)the term "redneck" is a slighting reference to skin color. No prob, we rednecks don't give a shit. Just sayin'.
LanternWaste
(37,748 posts)"... A term coined to be used at the end of something insulting or offensive to take the heat off you when you say it." I read that as "cowering behind implication..." but narrative may force others to pretend differently.
As a 50-year redneck, I can only wish it was slight... it would give me even more justifications to maintain the pretense of oppression.
Just sayin'...
rogerashton
(3,920 posts)k8conant
(3,030 posts)with the rotten orange.
RT Atlanta
(2,517 posts)as others note above, what man wears a hat indoors?
hack89
(39,171 posts)so the hat is part of his uniform. Don't know what the rules or custom regarding wearing the hat indoors is.
hlthe2b
(102,561 posts)are normally the dress for court, and other "high exposure to public events" such as Legislative appearances-- so this assumption that the hat (whether indoors or not) is required, seems not to be the case...
I know this is not a big deal except for the further erosion of norms and "manners".. No big deal for some, but I think it is for many, given how much Trump has destroyed the office of the Presidency.
Special Circumstances. Court appearances, Governor's Security, Executive Security, Legislative appearances, or any other high exposure to public events requires specific appropriate dress, and requires a suit or sports coat and appropriate pants, such as dress slacks or suit. Dress jeans or Wrangler style jeans are expressly prohibited.
https://www.texasranger.org/texas-ranger-museum/texas-rangers/dress-regulations/
hack89
(39,171 posts)but who really knows?
I find that hard to believe, given how this WH is run.
I guess when you appear before a "BOOR", boorish behavior becomes the norm.
hack89
(39,171 posts)regardless of how incompetent the WH is.
Brother Buzz
(36,505 posts)Mama's house. That ranger just might have taken off his hat if there was a handy hat rack.
Kali
(55,032 posts)MurrayDelph
(5,305 posts)I regularly wear hats when I'm outside. I mostly wear Stetson and Fedora: wool when it's cold out, leather when it's raining, and straw when it's sunny.
When I walk over the threshold into a building, I take the hat off (even when it's only Costco, which is often full of baseball caps worn indoors). If the hat has a brim, you take it off when indoors.
The only time I wear a hat indoors is when I'm cosplaying. It's four weeks until the Doctor Who convention in L.A., where at various times I will be wearing a Tom Baker Fedora (with scarf), a Stetson, or a fez (frezzes are cool). A few years ago, I wore a Santa costume with hat indoors (I even put a red filter on my mobility scooter's headlight so I could call it Rudolph).
akraven
(1,975 posts)If so, forgiven.
If not, arrogance and stupidity.
USALiberal
(10,877 posts)akraven
(1,975 posts)Seriously, they do.
Hassler
(3,402 posts)Kajun Gal
(1,907 posts)Just sayin...
Kali
(55,032 posts)plenty of real rural men do those things for legit reasons (well, not the gigantic red tie, no good reason to do that).