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ksoze

(2,068 posts)
Fri Jan 18, 2019, 11:49 AM Jan 2019

Be on the watch for a set up story designed to debunk

I think stories like the Buzzfeed item will and should get special scrutiny. In these desperate times for Trump, he needs to insulate himself and his base from the bad news coming. A planted story that gets us all prepared to get the pitchforks out and head to the castle that is then correctly debunked will embolden his base and create a new level of caution that will allow him to glide longer.

Trump needs to kill the messenger and a planted story can create a wound...

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LongtimeAZDem

(4,494 posts)
2. I'm remided of the scene from "All the President's Men"
Fri Jan 18, 2019, 11:58 AM
Jan 2019
You've done worse than let Haldeman slip away, you've got people feeling sorry for him. I didn't think that was possible. A conspiracy like this, the rope has to tighten slowly around everyone's neck. You build from the outer edges and you go step by step. If you shoot too high and miss, then everybody feels more secure.


The only way Trump gets impeached is if the Republicans in the Senate are confronted with proof that they cannot argue away. Let's not give them cover.

FakeNoose

(32,917 posts)
3. It has already been confirmed by CNN and independent news media
Fri Jan 18, 2019, 12:00 PM
Jan 2019

You may be right about "planted" stories, but this one isn't planted, it's real.

Keep in mind that this story wasn't based on documents or testimony from Michael Cohen, who has admitted to lying on previous occasions. It's based on emails, documents and testimony from other sources who corroborated Cohen. Mueller knows what to look for and what questions he needs to ask. This story may have been carefully leaked by Mueller's office, but we don't know the source yet. If Mueller did leak it, he has a good reason.

ksoze

(2,068 posts)
5. Agree, but the BF reporter admitted he did not see these docs
Fri Jan 18, 2019, 12:23 PM
Jan 2019

I suspect it is true, just nervous we get caught in a planted story trap and give more momentum to the unwashed.

 

manor321

(3,344 posts)
4. Keep in mind we already had STRONG HINTS this story is true
Fri Jan 18, 2019, 12:14 PM
Jan 2019

From statements in the record (from Mueller or NY, can't remember), we know Cohen coordinated his statements with someone and that he knew the statements were false. This new story just adds that it is directed by Trump.

frogmarch

(12,161 posts)
7. It happened in real life:
Fri Jan 18, 2019, 12:39 PM
Jan 2019
https://splinternews.com/a-michigan-politician-planned-a-fake-gay-prostitute-sca-1793849809

A Michigan politician planned a fake gay prostitute scandal to hide his affair with a female state rep

snip:

Recordings obtained by The Detroit News reveal that Courser was planning a fake scandal, where an anonymous e-mail sent to Republican activists would suggest the politician solicited and had sex with a male prostitute. This would give Courser the chance to claim the moral high ground and vehemently deny the charges he himself created. This is step one of an actual, real-life plan.

Having successfully shot down these rumors, Courser would then be able to plausibly deny the rumors of his (actual, real) affair with Gamrat. Throughout the recording, he refers to the strategy as both a "controlled burn" and a chance to "innoculate the herd" against future scandals.


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http://nymag.com/intelligencer/2015/08/michigan-state-rep-says-he-was-blackmailed.html


State Representative Who Created Fake Scandal to Hide Affair Says He Was Blackmailed

snip: (emphasis mine)

Courser admitted that he was responsible for the mass email sent to Republican activists in the state claiming that he was “a bi-sexual porn addicted sex deviant!”who was “caught behind a Lansing nightclub” having sex with a male prostitute.


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