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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsBREAKING: Trump to offer temporary protections for undocumented 'dreamers' in exchange for $5.7 bil
BREAKING NEWS: The president is expected to detail the proposal to Democrats in a rare Saturday address at 4 p.m. It comes as the record-breaking government shutdown entered its 29th day.
This story will be updated.
President Trump is preparing to make a new offer to Democrats that could end the record-breaking government shutdown in a rare Saturday address from the White House, while stopping short of declaring a national emergency on the southern border.
With the shutdown in its 29th day, Trump was expected to propose items he believes Democrats favor as part of a broader border-security package, according to two people familiar with White House planning. The hope is the proposal would revive negotiations with congressional Democrats, which have been nonexistent for days.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/powerpost/trump-to-make-new-offer-to-democrats-as-government-shutdown-drags-on/2019/01/19/2cde029e-1bf3-11e9-9ebf-c5fed1b7a081_story.html?utm_term=.480f066242a2
Temporary?! Not even close to good enough, IMO.
Javaman
(62,534 posts)Loki Liesmith
(4,602 posts)Thats just a way to make sure he gets the leverage back in the future.
SWBTATTReg
(22,205 posts)Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin
(108,458 posts)DUzy
still_one
(92,510 posts)The Velveteen Ocelot
(115,985 posts)marylandblue
(12,344 posts)dawg day
(7,947 posts)But didn't Trump renege on a much more generous (for him) deal last March or so?
What's to say he'll keep this deal now?
He keeps using these kids as playing chips. It's terrible.
marylandblue
(12,344 posts)Also, the House would write and pass a single bill covering both, so he signs for all or none.
livetohike
(22,171 posts)Cant wait to see the response to this.
Wounded Bear
(58,778 posts)How about asking Mitch McConnell. He's the one holding shit up.
mcar
(42,467 posts)Pelosi and Schumer have not been approached with this offer.
This is more Dotard theater, so he can try to justify grounding Pelosi's flight.
herding cats
(19,569 posts)All he does is manipulate the news cycles by blowing smoke and telling lies.
Kurt V.
(5,624 posts)Goodheart
(5,352 posts)He's fucking delusional.
W_HAMILTON
(7,878 posts)Fuck off, Donald.
Eyeball_Kid
(7,440 posts)So Trumpy is offering NOTHING in exchange for his idiotic Wall funding.
ooky
(8,934 posts)a bucket of shit.
David__77
(23,628 posts)...
Roland99
(53,342 posts)This is ALL on Repukes!
JDC
(10,146 posts)Comatose Sphagetti
(836 posts)For the stupid fucking wall.
dalton99a
(81,707 posts)smirkymonkey
(63,221 posts)Piss off, Donald.
UTUSN
(70,788 posts)Hekate
(91,013 posts)spanone
(135,929 posts)rso
(2,277 posts)Not a penny for the wall. Negotiations can start once the USG is reopened. No negotiations with a terrorist holding USG employees hostage.
Downtown Hound
(12,618 posts)Hey Chump, fuck off! And take your bullshit deal with you!
superpatriotman
(6,254 posts)$5.7 billion divided by 1.8 million possible DACA recipients = $3166.666666666666
Botany
(70,643 posts)No thanks
ooky
(8,934 posts)Trump doesn't want to risk greater excoriation from Coulter and Limbaugh who would have a cow if he offered Dreamers permanent status.
This will just be another stunt by Trump and Republicans who are anxious to stop the bleeding - and attempt to reverse the blame for his shutdown on the democrats.
rurallib
(62,482 posts)If it works once, they will never stop.
Snotcicles
(9,089 posts)bullwinkle428
(20,631 posts)arthritisR_US
(7,300 posts)concrete $5.7 thats a really lame offer IMO.
tblue37
(65,547 posts)Burma Jones
(11,760 posts)Jackass
Kablooie
(18,647 posts)Trumps case to deport the dreamers.
Mme. Defarge
(8,063 posts)Glad I kept reading replies before making the same point. Obviously, he assumes everyone else is as stupid as he is.
erpowers
(9,350 posts)I would not completely be happy with permanent protections for dreamers, so I am not even slightly happy with temporary protections for dreamers. I hope Pelosi, Schumer, and the Democrats reject this offer. I plan to call Pelosi's and Schumer's office Monday to encourage them to oppose this offer. I may even call the Representatives closest to my residence to encourage them to not support this offer.
klook
(12,174 posts)Makes no difference anyway Trump lies about everything. So, even if this wasnt a bullshit deal, it wouldnt be worth the toilet paper its written on.
Chipper Chat
(9,704 posts)And the one that read "no pubic option"
klook
(12,174 posts)kimbutgar
(21,278 posts)Repairing roads, rebuilding a bridge or hiring a cyber security team to fight off Russia and China. No no no to the stupid vanity wall.
The orange maggot is not going to gain supporters if the Democrats say no no no to the idiotic wall.
OliverQ
(3,363 posts)backtoblue
(11,348 posts)Sugar Smack
(18,748 posts)No.
louis-t
(23,313 posts)he gets his way. God, he's intolerable.
Ohiogal
(32,185 posts)This is laughable if this is the biggest concession they can come up with.
No way.
Poiuyt
(18,134 posts)wryter2000
(46,133 posts)Good news, but we're still not giving him his wall.
lindysalsagal
(20,793 posts)Qutzupalotl
(14,341 posts)Short of a miles-long mob of protesters with pickaxes and sledgehammers. No deal.
DeminPennswoods
(15,295 posts)not gonna happen.
Autumn
(45,120 posts)madaboutharry
(40,245 posts)This is just more film flam from the film flam man.
He really does think everyone is stupid.
DeminPennswoods
(15,295 posts)for border security, which was what Congress granted.
Tom Rinaldo
(22,919 posts)...AFTER all government agencies are funded for a full budget year.
Arkansas Granny
(31,542 posts)delisen
(6,047 posts)qazplm135
(7,447 posts)I'd say that's effectively no wall for permanent, take it, open the government and then don't give him another dime for the wall.
But temporary? No deal.
musicblind
(4,486 posts)Oh hell no.
Permanent and maybe we can give him $2 billion.
Think about it DACA is way more popular with the American people than the wall. That makes this an uneven offer. He should do DACA for next to nothing given its popularity.
D_Master81
(1,823 posts)He probably thinks this is his big reach across the aisle that the Dems want. Hahahaha!! Temporary while you build a permanent structure.
workinclasszero
(28,270 posts)Then MF45 will rescind protections for dreamers, declare victory over Speaker Pelosi and the democrats while taking victory laps on Fox & Friends and start deporting them again, I guarantee it!
Really are we going to fall for this shit? Are we gonna take the worthless word of the biggest LIAR on the planet that he will protect the dreamers?
People that he has a visceral hate for?
SWBTATTReg
(22,205 posts)roamer65
(36,748 posts)WePurrsevere
(24,259 posts)Shouldn't even waste their time and cover him. Ignore.him!
The fact is that he had 2 years with a Republican majority in BOTH the Senate and House. He and the R'Con party could have pushed for a stupid unnecessary expensive wall then and gotten it right up until the day Democrats took over the House of Reps.
If Trumplicans could shove their friggin tax cuts for the rich through like they did, they could have shoved his stupid wall through too BUT Trump didn't push for it and the Republican controlled Senate and House didn't even bother to try until they realised that Democrats were probably going to take the House and then it becomes some big 'must have'? Ted's
Horsepucky! Republicans and Trump are playing their BS drum up fear and LIE game again. This is their pattern and their base keeps being suckered into it like Lucy does Charlie Brown with the football. You'd think they have seen the pattern... Geesh.
JDZ710A
(10 posts)Lets find a billionaire to give ten million each to four senate republicans to move to the Democratic party so we can kick Moscow Mitch as Majority leader.
marble falls
(57,502 posts)bribe nor extort. Surely you don't think that's a great idea.
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Takket
(21,703 posts)Fuck off.
and how could drumpf ever get his deplorables to accept that? They believe DACA isn't even legal!!!!!
Drahthaardogs
(6,843 posts)You're a liar.
fleabiscuit
(4,542 posts)Vinca
(50,328 posts)sarcasmo
(23,968 posts)Flaleftist
(3,473 posts)RandySF
(59,767 posts)appleannie1943
(1,303 posts)sealed and delivered. And make sure that this is not simply a down payment, it is the total sum.
lancelyons
(988 posts)I tried to call Nancy and tell her to offer the deal first. Trump was first to do this. Crap
Midnightwalk
(3,131 posts)This is not a budget negotiation. The GOP keeps pulling this shit. There should not be any strings attached to keeping the government running.
When the government reopens fix the DACA problem permanently.
Any discussion on more barriers should remove the law that allows environmental regulations to be waived . Its still a worse than useless waste of money since you have to oay for maintenance and repair. People who walked 2000 miles wont be stopped by a wall.
In It to Win It
(8,310 posts)Hes in a lose-lose scenario. He backed himself into that corner.