be saying the exact same thing. Taking hostages to get your way is all this is about. It is the perfect and correct response.

Tulsi Gabbard!

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I get that federal workers going without paychecks are hurting, but if Democrats cave on this republicans will use this tactic to make federal workers as well large pockets of our population hurt forever. If Democrats have to hold out until Trump is no longer in office, then that is just what they will have to do.

a domestic??? or foreign terrorist???? tRump is both.

hold your breath instead you spoiled little brat.


https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4539784/Even-child-Donald-Trump-horror.html

https://www.washingtonpost.com/lifestyle/style/young-donald-trump-military-school/2016/06/22/f0b3b164-317c-11e6-8758-d58e76e11b12_story.html?utm_term=.435a14fe433d

This weekend, President Trump promised to an “extension” of DACA for the “700,000 DACA recipients brought here unlawfully by their parents at a young age many years ago.” But the Senate bill that Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell introduced to implement his deal does not extend DACA but rather replaces it with a totally different program that will exclude untold thousands of Dreamers who would have been eligible under DACA. It is important to remember that all of these requirements are for less than 3 years of relief from deportation and work authorization, not a pathway to citizenship.

Here is a list of some of the changes:

Requires Dreamers to reapply: P. 1235 requires Dreamers already in good standing in DACA to reapply for status, even though DACA would have allowed them simply to renew their status without refiling all of their paperwork and evidence. This requirement is a substantial burden, and most applicants will end up having to hire immigration attorneys to fulfill it.
Much higher evidentiary burden: P. 1235 increases the evidentiary standard for Dreamers to prove their eligibility to receive DACA from a “preponderance of the evidence” to “clear and convincing.” The only higher standard of proof in the law is “beyond a reasonable doubt.” People win multi-million judgments based on the preponderance of the evidence standard. Clear and convincing is often used for cases like withdrawing life support. In the immigration context, USCIS explains that preponderance of the evidence is usually the standard—meaning that “even if the director has some doubt as to the truth,” he should approve “if the petitioner submits relevant, probative, and credible evidence that leads the director to believe that the claim is ‘probably true’ or ‘more likely than not.’” Clear and convincing is used rarely for cases like “to rebut the presumption of a prior fraudulent marriage” (i.e. for applicants the government has reason to be suspicious of). Dreamers proving that they entered before June 2007 or that they resided continuously, for example, just became much more difficult under this legislation.
Imposes a Monetary Fine/Doubles Application Cost: DACA, the Dream Act, and other proposals to legalize Dreamers have usually left off the monetary fine for being in the country illegally that proposals to legalize other immigrants have customarily had. This is because no one—including Trump—blames Dreamers for being in the country illegally. They were brought here as children. Yet this bill does contain a fine or penalty but rebrands it as a $500 “security fee” (p. 1243). This fine comes on top of the normal fees for processing the application, and it essentially doubles the cost of the currently $495 application. According to the Migration Policy Institute’s analysis of why eligible Dreamers didn’t apply for DACA, not having $500 cash was the number 1 reason. Anecdotes from Dreamers themselves support this.
“Public charge” rule: P. 1238 applies the public charge ground of inadmissibility in INA 212(a)(4) to Dreamers—something DACA did not require. While DACA recipients are currently ineligible, and would remain ineligible under this bill, for almost all federal benefits, the Trump administration’s pending public charge rule would ban anyone who is even 5 percent dependent on any level of government, even state or local aid, from receiving legal status. This could include numerous Dreamers in states such as California and New York, which offer state benefits to Dreamers. Dreamers in DACA have grown up in America since a very young age and have lived in the country for over a decade. They are Americans. Treating them as if they are new immigrants does not represent the view of most Americans.
Minimum income requirement: P. 1239 would further require that Dreamers prove—again by clear and convincing evidence—that, unless they are a student, they can maintain an income of at least 125 percent of the poverty level during their time in the United States. DACA had no such requirement, and it would result in banning numerous Dreamers currently in DACA.
Pay back legally-obtained tax credits: P. 1239 requires Dreamers to pay to the U.S. Treasury the value of any legally-obtained tax credits that they have received. Not only is this provision not in DACA, it is totally unprecedented in immigration law and would massively increase the cost for many applicants, particularly those with children.
Excludes Dreamers who ever claimed to be U.S. citizens: Unlike DACA, P. 1238 also applies the ground of inadmissibility in INA 212(a)(6)(C) for those Dreamers who ever claimed to be a U.S. citizen. This is an exceptionally common phenomenon because many Dreamers don’t ever realize that they are here illegally until they claim otherwise.
Excludes Dreamers with removal orders: Unlike DACA, P. 1238-9 would ban Dreamers who are in the country illegally due to a prior order of removal. Given that the whole point of DACA and similar programs are to give people here illegally legal status, this provision makes little sense and is solely designed to keep out Dreamers.
Excludes Dreamers not in DACA: Nearly half of all Dreamers have droppedout of DACA or never applied in the first place, possibly due to fear of what Presidents Trump or Obama would do with their information or for costs or other reasons. Moreover, other Dreamers “age-in” to the program when they turn 15 (younger immigrants cannot apply). P. 1239 makes it clear that anyone not currently in DACA cannot apply—another huge change from the DACA program.
Keeps Dreamers from getting permanent residence: Illegal immigrants who also entered illegally cannot adjust their status to legal permanent residence even if they are eligible due to (typically) a marriage to a U.S. citizen. They need to register a legal entry first. DACA allowed them to travel and reenter, which permitted tens of thousands to receive legal permanent residence. P. 1252 bars this practice by deeming such entries not a legal “admission” for purposes of adjusting status.
Dreamers cannot renew status: P. 1240 grants a 3-year status that cannot ever be renewed. This is a huge departure from DACA, which—despite giving just a 2-year status—has allowed renewals for 7 years already.
h/t balloon juice

I've been lurking here for awhile and I think the format and posts are terrific. The above info imo doesn't bode for reopening the government any time soon, in fact is a total departure from what was proposed over the weekend. Trump is a liar, of course, and McConnell is carrying his water. But Nancy Smash sees through it. so go Nancy

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All of it not required of other people receiving similar benefits.

I'm more interested in hearing if they changed anything when they proposed extending TPS by 3 years.

FU Joni Ernes and false sympathy

He keeps the rabid right-wing media personalities on his side, and perhaps even more important to Trump, the FBI is penalized with no pay. Unfortunately, they are also not able to translate potential terrorist communications, can’t prosecute dangerous gang members, and most likely can’t fully monitor what Russia is doing. They’re also not able to monitor counterintelligence activities. We have to hope that US enemies do not choose this chaotic time to carry out an attack on the US. Trump has made it a lot easier with his shutdown. He is helping to fulfill Nikita Khruschev’s promise that “We do not have to invade the United States, we will destroy you from within.” With a Russian asset in the White House, we are at great risk.

Sowing chaos among his enemy, thereby weakening us as a nation, is a big win for Putin.

That seems like a risky avenue to take. Pence would become the second Russian asset in succession. Perhaps the first thing to be done is for the Pence indictments to be unsealed, and for Pence to be publicly indicted. THEN he can go with the 25th, resign, and let Pelosi become President.

Best in history.

The GOP is trying to nullify the midterm election.
See this comment by Voltaire2 in a discussion from a previous thread:

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100211701214

Voltaire2
3. It is about trying to nullify the midterm election
If the Republicans can compel the house to pass legislation they would otherwise oppose, the election was nearly irrelevant

Two years they've had control the government and they've done nothing but fuck things up.

What has changed?

Nothing.

is supposed to be a fixed policy.