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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsMcConnell is going to take up the House Bill
One vote on Trumps bill, one on House bill.
I think it's a good idea.
It's likely naive of me to think the Republican Senators will vote Yes on a clean bill to fund the government.... But I have faith that they will.
You can't make people go months without income.
https://www-m.cnn.com/2019/01/22/politics/senate-vote-trump-border-wall-shutdown/index.html?r=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.cnn.com%2F
Washington (CNN) The Senate will take two key votes on Thursday on competing proposals aimed at ending the ongoing government shutdown -- one backed by Republicans and the other backed by Democrats and both likely to fail.
One of the votes will be on a proposal backed by Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell to fund President Donald Trump's border wall and reopen shuttered parts of the government. That legislation is in line with an offer the President proposed over the weekend offering temporary protections for some immigrants in exchange for $5.7 billion for a border wall -- and which Democrats swiftly rejected as they hold firm in insisting that the government should be reopened before lawmakers proceed to a debate on border security.
The other vote will be on House-passed legislation backed by Democrats to reopen the government without providing new funding for the wall.
marble falls
(57,494 posts)at140
(6,110 posts)Here are the possibilities:
> House bill passes but Trump bill fails
> Trump bill passes but House bill fails
> Both bills pass!
> Both bills fail!
Anyone have opinions on what happens after each of the above possibilities?
pangaia
(24,324 posts)good one!
forgotmylogin
(7,540 posts)If McConnell puts up Trump's first and it passes, will the House bill be considered?
I wouldn't put it past the evil old turtle.
at140
(6,110 posts)as to which bill McTurtle puts up first.
2naSalit
(86,936 posts)SOB.
manor321
(3,344 posts)I don't think it will pass, needing 60 votes, but it is a good start.
And if Dem Senators behave, the House bill should get more votes than Trump's bill.
bitterross
(4,066 posts)I don't, for a minute, think he's caving. He's got some other wicked plan at hand. There must be some sort of Senate rules or some esoteric doctrine he's going to pull out to get Trump's way.
smirkymonkey
(63,221 posts)Who knows what is going on in that fiendish little turtle brain of his?
JI7
(89,288 posts)will there be Republicans who voted for it then but not now ?
Hermit-The-Prog
(33,552 posts)McConnell may be looking for an out, or a way to shift blame.
ooky
(8,933 posts)will be exposed as voting to keep federal workers from returning to work. It will give them each personal accountability for the hostage taking.
Atticus
(15,124 posts)ooky
(8,933 posts)to get rid of one who is up for reelection in North Carolina in 2020, if he votes against it, Mr Thom Tillis.
ooky
(8,933 posts)we will have an official tally of every Republican Senator who voted to continue keeping Federal workers without their paychecks. This can then be hung around their necks in their re-election campaigns.
I want them on the record. Im also very interested in how those in jesopardy of losing their seats in 2020 vote on the CR..
Im looking at you Susan Collins.
ooky
(8,933 posts)we will now see.
BTW welcome to DU.
unblock
(52,494 posts)That's what this is all about.
Donnie will claim credit for ending the shutdown and then blame democrats for creating the second shutdown, even though it's all the same b.s.
He just wants to have his pomp and circumstance for his big speech. And reframe the "debate"
metroins
(2,550 posts)If anything Trump is good at talking to his (in my opinion) less than 30% base.
Passing both is a smart move.
Andy823
(11,495 posts)This is all about the SOTU address and him being able to spew his hate, fear, and stupidity to the whole nation, while blaming the Democrats for everything. I am not sure he will be able pin it on the Democrats, but it will inflate his sick warped ego, and after all the only one that maters is "him"!
David__77
(23,627 posts)Theres more serious work than speeches and pageantry.
tritsofme
(17,438 posts)Xolodno
(6,410 posts)...doing nothing is worse than doing something. So he's throwing everything out there, what passes, passes. What doesn't, doesn't. But he's trying to wash his hands of this...despite the fact, he's responsible for delaying several years of legislation...even when he agreed with it because a black guy in office might get credit.
He knows the border wall is dead. But if the government getting funded by the Senate goes through, then its on Trump to veto. If the Senate overrides or not, the pressure is off of him.
triron
(22,030 posts)metroins
(2,550 posts)Earlier McConnell said he'd vote on a wall bill.
Today he said he'd also take up the House bill.
cilla4progress
(24,800 posts)on him.
lindysalsagal
(20,792 posts)regnaD kciN
(26,045 posts)...and then, essentially, say well, now that weve proven theres no way youre going to reopen government without fully funding the wall, lets negotiate (everything except that).