are furloughed Federal workers should understand that the people sent to Congress to represent them just voted to keep them from getting another pay check.

what could be her aim or goal be here?

I hope it was just a symbolic vote, and if she feels strongly on this issue, introduces an appropriate bill.

If the outcome depended on her vote, Pelosi would have had some input, I suspect. That is the advantage of a commanding majority. The Speaker can let members blow off steam in this manner without having to resort to less-than-gentle persuasion to come up with a majority.

if it was something that could be close, Pelosi would have put pressure on her

She voted against two bills today. One would fund the government through September 30 and is rather detailed. The other would simply extend the same bill that passed in September to keep the government open until December 7 so that it would fund the government through February 28. Its less than a page long. On January 15 she voted for essentially the identically worded one-page bill, with the only difference being that it would extended the September bill until February 8 not February 8. She also voted against the bill funding the government through September 30 today, but my recollection is that she voted to support funding the government through September 30.

I'm questioning the quality of her staff work.

in it a purist would oppose.

I said this would happen.

I believe ICE is funded through DHS.

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if she insists on voting only for bills that are pure and perfect in her opinion.
Politics is the art of the possible, and progress is made incrementally. I cannot find any was to justify voting against a bill to re-open the government.

UNLESS you are one of her constituents. If you are, feel free to state your opinion here.

So yea. anyone can feel what they want about her vote.

did that vote change the outcome?

to give Dems a forum to express opinions about voting choices etc., so I don’t see a problem.

I'm from Colin Allred's district, not Louie Gohmert's (thank goodness for small favors!), but it still matters to me how Gohmert votes--albeit less so now than a month ago. I don't think anyone here has the right to muzzle me just because I'm not from East Texas any more than I think anyone has the right to muzzle me from bashing Mitch McTurtle's Senate moves just because I'm not from Kentucky.

By the way, say hi to Sredni Vashtar for me if your see him.

Not even close.

Opening the Gov so Fed Workers can get paid and people on HUD do NOT get thrown out of their HOMES.

Her vote affects all of us, and she has been gallavanting all over the place to raise a national profile.

I am curious what her reasoning was....

...."She doesn't care enough about her constituents!!!!" to "This is important to the country!!! Why didn't she vote nationally!!!!"

Especially since when it comes to defending conserva-dems the arguments are almost always exactly the opposite and we need to be very concerned about "their constituents".

Within one day there were posts upset that she hadn't yet opened an office in her district because "OMG HOW WILL SHE REPRESENT HER CONSTITUENTS?!?!" and then later in the day when she was voting based on her constituents it was "OMG THING OF HOW THIS REFLECTS ON THE PARTY!!!" or some other claptrap.

The ONLY Democrat, who voted with ~190 republicans?

...when a conservative Democrat votes against the party, we have to hear the excuses that "Oh it was symbolic.......it didn't matter because it wouldn't have passed anyway." or "They are voting based on what their constituents want. If you aren't one of their constituents then it doesn't matter what you think."

So......same standard applies here.

...of the Democratic caucus. And he's far from a "conservative Democrat".

By the way, the Instagram post that said the votes were based on what the constituents wanted has been deleted.

Look up some Kavanaugh threads. There's a lot of it in those.

Not going to chase down threads/posts for you.

Whatever you say.

...the front page has an article/post about a conservative Democrat voting for Trump's shutdown ending plan.

I saw that and I couldn't help noticing there was significantly less outrage. Seems odd.

lol

How soon we forget.

Editing to add: Manchin's vote for Trump's plan to end the shutdown. Literally today.

Not that long ago

I'm sure everyone remembers. Even those that pretend they don't.

....that other Democrats are off the hook for voting against the Democrats?

she's a "POS". But other Democrats are off the hook for voting against the Democrats? Like that?

Talk about your "whataboutism"

I see that some of the very same people having conniptions over this are assuring us that is NOT important.

on not spending funds on border security? Just because they voted for her doesn't mean they agreed with every single one of her positions.

https://nypost.com/2019/01/23/ocasio-cortez-was-the-only-dem-to-vote-no-on-bill-to-reopen-the-government/

If that is the case then I can live with her malfeasance. Thank you.

That effects the entire country, not just her district. So while she untimately only answers to them at the ballot box that doesn’t mean the rest of the country has no right to critique her record or anyone else’s.

....was in an Instagram post, it has since been deleted.

BTW, there was another funding bill voted on in the House this morning, (HJ RES 31), 226 Democrats voted Yea, 1 democrat voted Nay.

was for what?

and their votes here should simmer down?

or districts


How is the weather?

She is Barbara Lee casting the lone 'no' vote against the Gulf War.

IMO, if you criticize her for this vote (in which her choice would make no difference in the final outcome, anyway, you have no right to pearl-clutch at any future stories of ICE brutality.

to the attention of voters. Good for her!!

It almost sounds like she isn't being properly briefed on what is in the legislation she's voting on...

the concept is conscience over party line. If in fact as speculated here that her vote was cast because the bill contained funding for ICE, then I am in favor of her no vote. I do not have any first-hand knowledge of her reason...entirely speculation. Ms. Lee voted against the war in Afghanistan for ideological reasons

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No bill is ever going to be perfect. She would be voting no on every bill because no bill is going to be "pure."

She will learn and become a great congresswoman if she does.

she may come to a different conclusion about what makes an effective member of Congress. I suspect she will figure it out.

This was a safe move to make, as the outcome didn't depend on her. I don't think this counts as stepping on anyone's toes. That may yet come, but I don't think this rises to that level.

It will take years to get the kind of seniority she needs to be a player. It the way it works and generally is a good thing. Not sure she has the patience for that and if not will be an attention getting outlier that FOX loves to cover, which does not bother me.

There are many House Members and Senators who have had a long career of not working on a team and being an outlier to draw attention to themselves. And always will be. They don’t really get anything done, but the limelight shines on them.

That may change. Especially if her district gets jumpy. I read, and correct me if wrong, she has not opened a district office.

She may well represent her district. If so, good for her. But she does not represent most congressional districts, even Democratic ones.

Democrats are not against boarder and immigration enforcement.

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I approve of her 100%.

Good when she's for something and good when she's against the exact same thing.

Let me be clear, I like AOC. But that doesn't mean that I pretend she walks on water and is beyond criticism.

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Who does that remind me of?

Oh, yes. Now I remember.

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The old rules no longer apply. It's time to move forward, and play a new song, after all we're not conservative.

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how?

to Blue Dogs, or Joe Manchin, etc.).

But in this case, what is curious, is that she voted against a bill yesterday that is effectively identical to a bill she voted FOR on January 15. Both bills are basically one page long and would extend the legislation that kept the government open from September to early December. The one she voted for would have re-opened the government for 24 days (Jan 15 to Feb 8). The one she voted against would have re-opened the government on exactly the same substantive terms, except it would be for 36 days (Jan. 23 to Feb. 28).

If there is a rational explanation for that, I haven't heard it.

Voting WITH rump and the deplorable TRAITORS is

UNACCEPTABLE

UNACCEPTABLE

Congresswoman gets tiresome. I swear I think we're going to start hearing about bathroom habits soon.

don't pay attention, but this is not good.

....as one of the reasons why she hasn't been able to get her offices set up in her district yet (even though that isn't true). So she decides to vote against a bill that would reopen the government?

Win or lose, with the obstinance of trump and McConnell, essentially voting "with" them is not good.

...(Chakrabarti is chief of staff, Trent is communications director). I wonder if we'll get any comments from either.

and the purist had to vote no.


There should have been complete unity of party on this. I will still view her with a sideglance until I see otherwise. Glad she's not from my area.

And the voice of a generation and should not less inexperience stop her. Now she is a mere junior?

....vote with the Democratic caucus, and how that was a measuring stick for who gets primaried.

Henry Cuellar has a higher rating.

There's nothing at all liberal about voting to keep the government closed.

And since there has either NEVER been one of those or they are as rare as meteorites hitting McDonalds drive thrus, oh fuck this, I am so sick of biting my tongue.

I hate being RIGHT AGAIN

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Did anyone notice the comment underneath the header of that screen, "Funds Closed Federal Depts. & Agencies until Oct., Except DHS"

If funding ICE was the reason given for voting against the bill, it should be noted that ICE is a department of DHS!!!