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DetlefK

(16,423 posts)
Thu Jan 24, 2019, 07:53 AM Jan 2019

New trend on Youtube: Getting famous by harassing cops until they do something stupid/illegal.

https://www.thedailybeast.com/the-insane-new-path-to-youtube-fame-trigger-cops-and-film-it?ref=home

Unbeknownst to the San Antonio cop, he had become the latest unwitting star in a growing YouTube genre called “First Amendment Auditing,” in which self-proclaimed “auditors” test how police will react by filming them in public places or around government buildings. Auditors show up with their cameras at places as mundane as post offices, or as imposing as the entrances to nuclear weapons factories. Once there, they start filming, and wait to see how police react.

...

Over the past few years, First Amendment auditing has also become a cutthroat YouTube industry, with auditors taking increasingly aggressive positions in encounters with police, knowing that if they are to get arrested or grabbed by a cop it will boost their views and build their online profiles. There are dozens of auditors on YouTube. While their videos typically get just tens of thousands of views, big channels or viral videos can net millions.

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Worse, after another encounter with police and more than eight arrests over his audits, he’s been under house arrest since July pending trial on the charges.

Not every encounter ends up in house confinement. Police sometimes let auditors go with just a few questions. Other times, officers, suspicious that the auditors are involved in terrorism or just mad that they refuse to reveal their names, have arrested the auditors.

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“There are those auditors who go out there and they don’t care how nice the cop is,” said Nathanial Thomas Plotner, a Los Angeles auditor who goes by the name Nasty Nathanial. “They want that confrontation, so they can get a good video and get those high views.”

Padilla’s videos are filled with the exact kind of insults that gets cops mad and viewers revved up. In the San Antonio strip mall video, for example, he repeatedly taunted each new officer who appeared on the scene. In another video, Padilla berated a police officer with anti-gay slurs, calling him a “faggot.”

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Auditors also face ruthless competition from other auditors, who see them as rivals for views, fans, and YouTube ad revenue, especially as auditing has become more popular on YouTube. That puts a premium on encounters with police that will really pop. It also sparks some editorially dubious maneuvering. Phil claims some auditors will call police on themselves if an audit isn’t producing a dramatic enough showdown.
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New trend on Youtube: Getting famous by harassing cops until they do something stupid/illegal. (Original Post) DetlefK Jan 2019 OP
Been following this garbage years Watchfoxheadexplodes Jan 2019 #1
I stumble across these, from time to time. Also notice a hell of a lot of Russian supplied content. TheBlackAdder Jan 2019 #2
Something needs to done about the illegal tactics of cops. safeinOhio Jan 2019 #3
90% of cops believe they are above the law? Watchfoxheadexplodes Jan 2019 #5
Find me 9 out of 10 cops safeinOhio Jan 2019 #6
I deal and have been in contact with 1000's Watchfoxheadexplodes Jan 2019 #7
A lot use it to boast of technology and skills Watchfoxheadexplodes Jan 2019 #4
There's so much wrong with this article...where do I begin? DemocraticSocialist8 Jan 2019 #8
I look at them kinda like I do Larry Flynt. ret5hd Jan 2019 #9
The law they always quote needs amendments Watchfoxheadexplodes Jan 2019 #10
Yeaaaahhhh....no. ret5hd Jan 2019 #11
To entice an altercation Watchfoxheadexplodes Jan 2019 #12
The only thing the officers/public officials/security guards need to do is... ret5hd Jan 2019 #13
Ok Watchfoxheadexplodes Jan 2019 #14
Yep. ret5hd Jan 2019 #15
Bullshit. The only enticing is being done by the cops' egos. Hassin Bin Sober Jan 2019 #20
If the cops reacted with boring civility this wouldn't be a thing. hunter Jan 2019 #16
Probability multiplied with quantity. DetlefK Jan 2019 #17
I have a low opinion of the police. They are dangerous and unpredictable. hunter Jan 2019 #18
Filed under "Shit only white folks can get away with" Blue_Tires Jan 2019 #19
Pretty much. I've been following this "movement" for a while. Hassin Bin Sober Jan 2019 #21
You are wrong RandiFan1290 Jan 2019 #23
Awww, do the little piggies feel harassed? RandiFan1290 Jan 2019 #22

safeinOhio

(32,762 posts)
3. Something needs to done about the illegal tactics of cops.
Thu Jan 24, 2019, 09:22 AM
Jan 2019

I was married to one and the things they say are criminal.

Number one on my list...Professional Courtesy. If you are a cop or member of the courts you get a free pass.

#2. Who's going to arrest me, I'm a cop.

#3. I'm a member of the largest gang in the country, f..k with one of us and you have f..ked with all of us.

These are all things I've heard her and her friends say.

The 90% of cops that think they are above the law, make the other 5% look bad.

Not all cops are bad, every dept. has one cop that will write tickets to other cops, members of the court, like judges and prosecutors and their family members and won't lie to protect them.

Don't think cops won't harass citizens until they do something stupid

safeinOhio

(32,762 posts)
6. Find me 9 out of 10 cops
Thu Jan 24, 2019, 09:33 AM
Jan 2019

that will pass a polygraph when asked if they have ever given a "professional courtesy".
Any of those are a violation of the Constitution, their oath of office and the law.

Watchfoxheadexplodes

(3,496 posts)
4. A lot use it to boast of technology and skills
Thu Jan 24, 2019, 09:26 AM
Jan 2019
This is American filmer here at the nowhere police department to do a first amendment audit. Today I am using my ike327 super maxzoom3 and video will be edited using adobe masterplan 5.0 with music from no one cares

ret5hd

(20,572 posts)
9. I look at them kinda like I do Larry Flynt.
Thu Jan 24, 2019, 09:44 AM
Jan 2019

If the constitution protects them, it protects me also.

ret5hd

(20,572 posts)
11. Yeaaaahhhh....no.
Thu Jan 24, 2019, 09:54 AM
Jan 2019

Public areas are public. It is not illegal to film anything in public areas.
They need to have a reasonable suspicion to detain me.
A "good reason" to photograph/film is because I am interested in the subject/action.

Photography is not a crime.

Watchfoxheadexplodes

(3,496 posts)
12. To entice an altercation
Thu Jan 24, 2019, 10:04 AM
Jan 2019

Should be.

You can watch these clowns push officers and public officials into altercation.

Sure it's legal but they will not get a large audience of just filming and describing public buildings and office's. YouTube is proof of that.

ret5hd

(20,572 posts)
13. The only thing the officers/public officials/security guards need to do is...
Thu Jan 24, 2019, 10:42 AM
Jan 2019

ask themselves some questions:
1) Is what I am observing illegal?
2) Do I have a reasonable suspicion that this person is soon going to do something illegal?
3) Do I have a reasonable suspicion that this person just previously did something illegal?

If the answer to those questions are all "No", do not engage that person.

Problem solved.

DetlefK

(16,423 posts)
17. Probability multiplied with quantity.
Thu Jan 24, 2019, 12:08 PM
Jan 2019

Each event has a certain probability and if you try often enough, it will finally happen.

These people are unnecessarily increasing the amount of conflict-situations until they stumble on one that they can monetize.

It is unavoidable that a cop will make a mistake. These people are simply generating conflict until they find a conflict that's bad enough.

hunter

(38,353 posts)
18. I have a low opinion of the police. They are dangerous and unpredictable.
Thu Jan 24, 2019, 12:21 PM
Jan 2019

Many of them shouldn't be allowed to have guns or cars, let alone badges.

Hassin Bin Sober

(26,367 posts)
21. Pretty much. I've been following this "movement" for a while.
Thu Jan 24, 2019, 08:00 PM
Jan 2019

This movement grew out of the Copwatch movement which was really about watching cops and how they deal with minorities and poor people.

Now this is mostly anti government types focusing on only one aspect of out of control cops.

Most of these auditors are right wingers. And like a lot of right wingers, they know they are getting fucked over but they can’t quite figure out who is doing the fucking.

40 years of drug war, erosion of the 4th Amendment, 5th Amendment and civil asset forfeiture cooked up by Ronny Reagan and they just figured out a couple years ago cops are out of control.

My theory is having a Black Man as President drove these idiots over the edge. I shit you not - I’ve seen these guys blame Obama for out of control cops.

God forbid anyone point out black people have it worse when it comes to cops and these people have a meltdown.

Most of these auditors are pro trump - the president who encourages cops to bounce peoples’ heads off cars as they are placed in custody.


That said there is one black auditor who has done a decent job. He actually had a landmark case that put cops on notice that arresting for filming can cost you your immunity.


https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20170217/10423836736/appeals-court-says-filming-police-is-protected-first-amendment.shtml


I believe this was the arrest

RandiFan1290

(6,262 posts)
22. Awww, do the little piggies feel harassed?
Fri Jan 25, 2019, 07:21 AM
Jan 2019

Good!

I am glad these auditors are catching them violating people's rights.

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