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Edit to add: this is from a year ago, I did not realize when posting.
He shouldn't be here?
Donald Trump's medical reveals serious heart disease concerns, say doctors
President at risk of having a stroke or heart attack
Harriet Agerholm
Thursday 18 January 2018 11:17
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Cardiologists said Mr Trump was at risk of having a stroke or a heart attack, particularly since he is overweight and has a sedentary lifestyle. He should work to dramatically lower his LDL level to below 100 or even 70, they said.
Dr David Maron, director of preventive cardiology at Stanford Universitys medical school, told The New York Times Mr Trumps LDL level was surprising, since he was on powerful cholesterol-lowering drug Crestor.
He said he would definitely be worried about Mr Trumps risk of having a heart attack if the President were one of his patients. When asked whether Mr Trump was in perfect health, Dr Maron said, God, no.
Dr Eric Topol, a cardiologist at the Scripps Research Institute, was also concerned about the LDL cholesterol reading. Were talking about a 70-plus-year-old man who is obese and doesnt exercise," he told The New York Times. "Just looking at the lab value, you would raise a big red flag.
He said describing a man with such levels as in excellent health was completely contradicted.
Other doctors also disputed the White House physicians assessment of the Presidents health. CNNs chief medical correspondent Dr Sanjay Gupta said coronary calcium CT scans carried out on the President showed he had a common form of heart disease.
The levels of calcium-containing plaque in the blood vessels that feed Mr Trump's heart had increased since 2009, Dr Gupta said,
In 2009 his coronary calcium score was 34. In 2013, it was 98. The score on his most recent medical assessment was 133. Anything over 100 means he has heart disease, Dr Gupta said.
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https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/donald-trump-heart-disease-medical-walter-reed-us-president-health-birther-diet-doctors-a8165371.html?fbclid=IwAR0E_E2fRiRvhSNxBNJ1NMN4U_-PpU63FsGPuz_q-PTRZC_tOkd7AEIwnaI
SummerSnow
(12,608 posts)Initech
(100,152 posts)LakeSuperiorView
(1,533 posts)Initech
(100,152 posts)Blue Owl
(50,598 posts)n/t
Traildogbob
(8,906 posts)On our dollar. I now do not feel so bad about my taxes. Eat more berders, I will gladly pay more.
COL Mustard
(5,979 posts)Its whats for dinner!!!
anarch
(6,535 posts)DavidDvorkin
(19,514 posts)bluestarone
(17,143 posts)NOT
CountAllVotes
(20,884 posts)He has a serious illness/disease!
Time to take care of yourself Donald! The sooner the better!
brush
(53,978 posts)tosh
(4,426 posts)with a little more interest now.
Eyeball_Kid
(7,440 posts)Hassler
(3,402 posts)SummerSnow
(12,608 posts)dhill926
(16,392 posts)Beat me to it!
Eat up, Mr. sTrump!!!!
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SummerSnow
(12,608 posts)at140
(6,110 posts)And he eats burger and fries often.
And never goes to the Gym as far as I can see.
Yeah, he is a walking time bomb for stroke/heart attack.
Initech
(100,152 posts)Remember him attempting to pronounce "anonymous"? His hair is fake, his skin color is fake, it wouldn't surprise me if his teeth were fake either!
BlancheSplanchnik
(20,219 posts)Hollywood style implants only for this pile O steaming piles.
Initech
(100,152 posts)Being a big fat guy like Trump, I'm sure he doesn't like mint and therefore doesn't brush as much as he should. Anonymouth... Anonymouth....
BlancheSplanchnik
(20,219 posts)Having to talk to him must be rancid!
ginnyinWI
(17,276 posts)...have teeth that white and nice. Teeth age and darken no matter what you do. I wish someone would find some old pics of him showing his teeth. And remember we didnt have fluoride until the mid fiftiesor later in some areas.
Maru Kitteh
(28,348 posts)mgardener
(1,825 posts)Has greatly changed since even a few years ago.
His word recall is terrible.
He is not well, physically and mentally.
lpbk2713
(42,777 posts)Here, have a nice bucket of KFC.
bdamomma
(63,977 posts)of ice cream, a nice chocolate cake, and a very well done steak with ketchup.
Wounded Bear
(58,797 posts)Jeez, just look at him. He's obviously obese, a suit can't cover that. He can't walk farther than 100 yards, if that. He sits around watching the tube all day, and has a Class A hyperactive temper, apparently.
hlthe2b
(102,575 posts)babylonsister
(171,112 posts)And he's still around??
I got so excited about the topic I forgot to check the date. My apologies.
bluevoter4life
(788 posts)"Nice guys may finish last, but pricks live FOREVER"
area51
(11,945 posts)The Velveteen Ocelot
(116,020 posts)And yet hes still with us.
Squinch
(51,093 posts)Cuthbert Allgood
(5,011 posts)But, seriously, is anyone surprised that is LDL levels are high?
still_one
(92,535 posts)physician speculations through the news media, in particular by physicians who have not personally examined him. Of course for that to happen, under HIPPA rules, the patient would have to give explicit permission
Similar bullshit happened with Terri Schiavo circus, and others, including Hillary for those who don't remember
Clash City Rocker
(3,402 posts)Bradshaw3
(7,554 posts)Kurt V.
(5,624 posts)world wide wally
(21,762 posts)at140
(6,110 posts)BigmanPigman
(51,674 posts)trueblue2007
(17,250 posts)but wait ..... Donald Rump doesn't have a heart.
MiniMe
(21,727 posts)Miigwech
(3,741 posts)trump will die in office ... from heart attack. Very convenient for pence or whatever Russia is up to.
AlexSFCA
(6,139 posts)pence takes over the country where discrimination is justified under religious freedom act. Unlike trump, pence is a true beleiver who is convinced being president of the US is his god given purpose. Return to traditional judeo-christian values; dominionism above all.
SCantiGOP
(13,879 posts)A war in the Mideast is a requirement to begin the Apocalypse, which they see as a good thing.
AlexSFCA
(6,139 posts)then we will see muslim registry going forward just for starters; mandatory draft of course.
Miigwech
(3,741 posts)BannonsLiver
(16,548 posts)Unfortunately theres a not insignificant percentage of Americans who will become consumed by conspiracy theories, or blame the libs for pushing him into an early grave.
Initech
(100,152 posts)Or Pizzagate, or Q, or whatever batshit crazy thing they come up with next.
Baitball Blogger
(46,786 posts)SWBTATTReg
(22,226 posts)stroke in the brain. Heart won't get a chance to do him in.
His own lifestyle, his own fault.
CatMor
(6,212 posts)SWBTATTReg
(22,226 posts)greatauntoftriplets
(175,776 posts)FarPoint
(12,487 posts)I couldn't care lss abouhis health and actualy doubt he even has a heart.
UpInArms
(51,296 posts)Of luck we would have
Richard D
(8,825 posts). . . that he's lasted this long.
Traildogbob
(8,906 posts)I really don't care, do u? All out of thoughts and prayers. He still has amazing health care. We gave Son of Satan Cheney, how many hearts? If he needs a donor, make damn sure it's is one of his fat ass bubba's, not a minority.
at140
(6,110 posts)I have closely observed 400 cases of exactly similar physical situation as Trump.
And based on my observations, my bet is cancer will kill him first.
Richard D
(8,825 posts)Really curious as to what you have observed.
at140
(6,110 posts)In those clubs only members (and their guests which are few because of high fees)
can play. So in my 15 years with 2 different golf clubs, I was able to closely
observe several hundred members along with their physical appearance, their eating
habits (these clubs have good restaurants) and their drinking habits and their golfing
habits. Majority were over age 60, most were over-weight, most ate lots of red meat,
most drank generously and almost all rode in carts instead of walking.
What shocked me was heart attacks and strokes were rare! Most common death
pattern was cancer. I am speaking of golfers who played frequently as I did, so I got
to know them first hand.
In my own case I have high LDL and low HDL, and my doctor keeps prescribing me
pills to lower my cholesterol which I ignore. During my golfing days I ate fair amount
of high cholesterol foods because that food was common in the club restaurants.
My father and all my uncles on mothers side died in their 60's from heart attacks
from eating too many rich foods. So why am I still alive nearing age 79 and never
had a heart attack or stroke? What is different between me and my close relatives?
Only difference I can observe is none of them played golf, while I played a lot between
age 60 & 74 when I was member at golf clubs, where one can play unlimited golf for
one fixed monthly dues. It comes out cheaper than playing 3+ rounds every week at
public courses.
So my best guess is golf may be why Trump is still alive and has not had a heart attack
that we know about. He is likely to avoid one until age 80. But cancer does not care if
one gets exercise playing golf. Overweight and lots of red meat are cancer risk factors.
I will not be shocked if news comes out that Trump has cancer.
Richard D
(8,825 posts)Thank you for taking the time to write all that. I found this in the British Journal of Sports Medicine. Might interest you.
Golf and physical health
In providing moderate intensity physical activity, it is biologically plausible that golf could be expected to have beneficial effects in the prevention and treatment of chronic diseases, including ischaemic heart disease, type 2 diabetes, stroke, and colon and breast cancer.4 ,83 A review commissioned by the World Golf Foundation concluded that participating in golf can yield a number of positive health and fitness effects12 although methods were not stated and only health benefits were described. Frequent golfers perceive their physical health to be better than infrequent golfers.84
Cardiovascular system
Golf is associated with improvements in known risk factors for cardiovascular disease, including physical inactivity,38 blood lipid and insulinglucose levels,57 ,66 ,85 body composition57 ,85 and aerobic fitness,57 although direct evidence and longitudinal trials assessing the medium-term and long-term impact of golf on coronary heart disease or cerebrovascular disease are lacking. Golf is reported as providing suitable exercise for patients with cardiac43 ,86 ,87 and stroke rehabilitation.88
Golf can provide a sufficient stimulus to improve aerobic fitness, but higher intensity exercise generates significantly improved cardiovascular adaption compared to playing golf.43 ,57 ,69 The effects of a season of golf on systolic blood pressure showed no significant difference in a controlled trial,57 while no consistent effect has been found measuring blood pressure during golf.64 ,67 ,86
There is an increased incidence of acute cardiac events during participation in sport89 and golf in particular.9092 Golf players with new or unstable cardiac symptoms should consult a doctor.90 There is contradictory and inconclusive evidence regarding the effectiveness and cost-effectiveness of automatic external defibrillators situated at golf courses.9396 An extremely rare mechanism of ischaemic stroke linked to golf has been described.97
at140
(6,110 posts)At age 58 I was having fainting spells at work in the mornings, rapid heart beats,
and panic attacks if alone in a large store. So I retired, and found out I also had
high blood pressure and was border-line diabetic.
I took up full time golf and now 20 years later, no longer fainting spells, no heart
problems and I got my blood sugar under control with 15 hours daily fasting. Right
now I honestly feel better than 20 years ago. Since I no longer play golf, I am doing
1 hour gym exercise every other day.
But please understand the distinction between occasional golfers and regular golfers.
Occasional golfers are more likely to experience cardiac events on a golf course.
PeeJ52
(1,588 posts)He was having trouble breathing then while he was sitting down. He's a little too heavy and when he's sitting down it's putting too much pressure on his heart and lungs making it hard to breathe. He's due a heart attack...
scarytomcat
(1,706 posts)look at Cheney he literally did not have a heart when he was VP
malaise
(269,352 posts)We buried a friend two weeks ago who discovered her serious heart problem a year ago.
Give the man two scoops and some chocolate cake covered in ganash with double cream in every layer
myohmy2
(3,230 posts)Good
...
SammyWinstonJack
(44,130 posts)Goodheart
(5,352 posts)randr
(12,418 posts)just to show everyone that he is the fittest of all.
leftyladyfrommo
(18,874 posts)You have to have a heart for that. He has a black hole.
Bleacher Creature
(11,258 posts)His fraud at Enron caused 20,000 their jobs, much less their savings and retirement. He was convicted of fraud and was about to be sentenced, until he dropped dead of a heart attack. He never spent a day in prison.
That's the LAST thing that should happen here.
Chakaconcarne
(2,484 posts)warmfeet
(3,321 posts)is fine by me.
The current vp and potus can just disappear - by whatever means.
Laffy Kat
(16,396 posts)No surprises here and I don't give a sh%t about tRump, but just seems like there could be a HIPAA breach somewhere?
Marie Marie
(9,999 posts)She may be surprised when she finds out he left it all to Ivanka.
Vogon_Glory
(9,138 posts)Thanks for posting this, even if its technically stale news. Id been wondering about Donnies health, I thought that the widely-published reports of his being in good health were bunkum, and I was curious as to what someone who isnt tied to Orange Julius or the right-wing lie machine might have to say about that man residing at 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue.
Beacool
(30,254 posts)Sounds good to me. Keep at it, Donnie.
tinrobot
(10,927 posts)fascisthunter
(29,381 posts)... we will have Pence-la-Dense. Eat more burgers.
Mabel
(79 posts)because I care.
hay rick
(7,672 posts)Hoping for something slower and more painful.
NastyRiffraff
(12,448 posts)A bad one. He can't speak, or move, but is fully conscious. That for me would be the definition of hell.
Thunderbeast
(3,432 posts)You're our only hope!
amuse bouche
(3,657 posts)catbyte
(34,554 posts)The commercial at 3:13 is epic.
in2herbs
(2,947 posts)Devil Child
(2,728 posts)Mr. Quackers
(443 posts)You take plenty of the good, the young, and the innocent. Please do your job harder and let nature provide us relief.