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DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
Thu Jan 24, 2019, 08:20 PM Jan 2019

Joe Biden Defends Himself for Praising Republican: 'Bless Me, Father, for I Have Sinned'


by Tommy Christopher | Jan 24th, 2019, 1:18 pm

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Speaking at the U.S. Conference of Mayors Winter Meeting Thursday morning, Biden addressed a recently-resurfaced controversy over a paid speech he gave three weeks before the 2018 midterm election, at which he praised Rep. Fred Upton (R-MI).

“Look, I get in trouble, I read in the New York Times today that I, one of my problems is, if I were to run for president, I like Republicans,” Biden said, then crossed himself while joking “Okay, well, bless me Father, for I have sinned.”

He was referencing a Times report that showed Biden was paid $200,000 by the Economic Club of Southwestern Michigan to speak at the event. “But you know, from where I come from, I don’t know how you get anything done unless we start talking to one another again,” Biden added.

“There was a big article today, Fred Upton, I went out and spoke at an event, and he was there, and I praised him,” he explained. “And he was in a race, but I praised him about the fight against cancer. His vote and his ability to join me and the, there’s a CURES Act that was passed that was over 8 1/2 billion dollars, to fight cancer. And it mattered, save people’s lives, and he stepped up. He and three other Republicans stepped up and helped us pass it.”

“And so I acknowledged that, and now I’m a, I don’t know what I am,” Biden said.

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Joe Biden Defends Himself for Praising Republican: 'Bless Me, Father, for I Have Sinned' (Original Post) DonViejo Jan 2019 OP
Joe Biden 2020 ! stonecutter357 Jan 2019 #1
This is why we like Joe Biden or why he is a decent man. Eliot Rosewater Jan 2019 #2
He took $200K to speak at a meeting where he promoted a Republican who had tried to repeal the ACA-- pnwmom Jan 2019 #3
As a commentor said, it shows Biden hates Cancer more than Republicans emulatorloo Jan 2019 #7
You can't get that cancer care unless you can pay for it, and Biden's buddy tried to REPEAL the ACA. pnwmom Jan 2019 #12
I'm sure you know Biden is 100% behind universal healthcare emulatorloo Jan 2019 #15
Biden took $200K to give a speech that supported a Republican who tried to repeal the ACA. pnwmom Jan 2019 #16
You wrote emulatorloo Jan 2019 #22
How can you justify his supporting a Republican who tried to repeal the ACA? That is the action pnwmom Jan 2019 #26
Biden praised a Republican for trying to repeal the ACA? emulatorloo Jan 2019 #28
Well, thanks for considering this. Have a good evening. n/t pnwmom Jan 2019 #32
... emulatorloo Jan 2019 #33
Yeah, I like Biden but the 200 grand speaks volumes. Tipperary Jan 2019 #9
Democrats ate Hillary alive for getting speaking fees EffieBlack Jan 2019 #18
I'm guessing neither of us can imagine Hillary endorsing a Republican in any race, pnwmom Jan 2019 #21
Oh dear.. it got worse. Cha Jan 2019 #36
Democrats ate Hillary alive? I just remember a few folks disingenuously engaging in innuendo emulatorloo Jan 2019 #25
I didn't see Andy823 Jan 2019 #20
Not Only That Me. Jan 2019 #24
I'm sure if the meeting was about repealing the ACA then Biden wouldn't of been there and I'm UniteFightBack Jan 2019 #27
Post removed Post removed Jan 2019 #4
He fesses up to his mistakes. That's character. 1620rock Jan 2019 #5
He was being dismissive and sarcastic about his mistake. That did show his character. n/t pnwmom Jan 2019 #13
He didn't confess to a mistake. He mocked the suggestion that it was a mistake EffieBlack Jan 2019 #19
We're in a war. shanny Jan 2019 #6
You publicly praised him and might have cost his opponent the election. BlueStater Jan 2019 #8
Love you Joe but I wish you had liked Anita Hill a little bit more. Autumn Jan 2019 #10
Vice President Biden never fails to crack me up. KentuckyWoman Jan 2019 #11
Obama's right hand, let's not attack flamingdem Jan 2019 #14
Let's not take $200K to give a speech that supports a Republican ACA-repealer over a Democrat. pnwmom Jan 2019 #17
Allow me to join Biden in praising SOME Republicans for SOME things over the years. Read on: LBM20 Jan 2019 #23
He didn't simply praise Upton for doing something good EffieBlack Jan 2019 #35
One of my very best friends is a Republican. He is one of the finest people I have ever known. But LBM20 Jan 2019 #38
Whether it's possible to have a Republican friend is not the point EffieBlack Jan 2019 #39
Are we going to ignore the fact that Joe lost his eldest child to cancer? RandySF Jan 2019 #29
Yes apparently we are going to completely ignore that emulatorloo Jan 2019 #31
He didn't simply praise him for supporting research EffieBlack Jan 2019 #34
This is a good example of why he's a good choice for putting things back together. LongtimeAZDem Jan 2019 #30
Joe may be the strongest candidate Gothmog Jan 2019 #37
In this hyper partisan era it isn't a good look. DemocratSinceBirth Jan 2019 #40

Eliot Rosewater

(31,137 posts)
2. This is why we like Joe Biden or why he is a decent man.
Thu Jan 24, 2019, 08:22 PM
Jan 2019

Personally, any GOP member who supports rump must NEVER be supported, but I know who Joe Biden is, and I like him.

pnwmom

(109,024 posts)
3. He took $200K to speak at a meeting where he promoted a Republican who had tried to repeal the ACA--
Thu Jan 24, 2019, 08:25 PM
Jan 2019

and now he's being snarky and dismissive about it.

emulatorloo

(44,270 posts)
7. As a commentor said, it shows Biden hates Cancer more than Republicans
Thu Jan 24, 2019, 08:37 PM
Jan 2019

“8 1/2 billion dollars, to fight cancer. And it mattered, save people’s lives, and he stepped up. He and three other Republicans stepped up and helped us pass it.”

pnwmom

(109,024 posts)
12. You can't get that cancer care unless you can pay for it, and Biden's buddy tried to REPEAL the ACA.
Thu Jan 24, 2019, 08:50 PM
Jan 2019

That is the bottom line. Is cancer care only for the wealthy, or who are lucky enough to work for the right company? Or should EVERYONE be able to get treated for cancer -- no matter how little money they have or what their preexisting conditions may be?

emulatorloo

(44,270 posts)
15. I'm sure you know Biden is 100% behind universal healthcare
Thu Jan 24, 2019, 08:57 PM
Jan 2019

I understand you are angry, but insinuating that Biden is against universal healthcare for all Americans isn’t right.

pnwmom

(109,024 posts)
16. Biden took $200K to give a speech that supported a Republican who tried to repeal the ACA.
Thu Jan 24, 2019, 09:04 PM
Jan 2019

I'm not insinuating anything. Biden's actions speak for themselves.

emulatorloo

(44,270 posts)
22. You wrote
Thu Jan 24, 2019, 09:15 PM
Jan 2019

“Is cancer care only for the wealthy, or who are lucky enough to work for the right company? Or should EVERYONE be able to get treated for cancer -- no matter how little money they have or what their preexisting conditions may be?”

Please provide any action or statement that Biden has made that indicates he believes cancer care is only for the wealthy, or is against care for those who have preexisting conditions.

You can’t.

The end. I am a big fan of your posts but I am done talking about this with you.

I understand that you don’t want Biden to run for President in 2020, which is a reasonable thing to want. But pretending he is against universal healthcare is not right.

pnwmom

(109,024 posts)
26. How can you justify his supporting a Republican who tried to repeal the ACA? That is the action
Thu Jan 24, 2019, 09:35 PM
Jan 2019

Biden took that I am questioning.

The Republican then took that praise and turned it into POLITICAL ADS about what a great centrist he was. Meanwhile, the Democrats were trying to contact Biden to see if he would endorse the Democrat, and he wouldn't even TALK to them.

emulatorloo

(44,270 posts)
28. Biden praised a Republican for trying to repeal the ACA?
Thu Jan 24, 2019, 09:43 PM
Jan 2019

Nope he praised him for getting over 8.5 billion dollars for Cancer research.

Have a nice night. Like I say I usually love your posts, but not this series.

 

EffieBlack

(14,249 posts)
18. Democrats ate Hillary alive for getting speaking fees
Thu Jan 24, 2019, 09:06 PM
Jan 2019

Can you imagine if she’d gotten speaking fees AND during the paid speech, she essentially endorsed a Republican in a tight race?

pnwmom

(109,024 posts)
21. I'm guessing neither of us can imagine Hillary endorsing a Republican in any race,
Thu Jan 24, 2019, 09:12 PM
Jan 2019

against a perfectly good Democrat.

The local Democratic party must have been shocked. I bet they won't be endorsing Biden during the primaries.

Mr. Biden’s remarks, coming amid a wide-ranging discourse on American politics, quickly appeared in Republican advertising. The local Democratic Party pleaded with Mr. Biden to repair what it saw as a damaging error, to no avail. On Nov. 6, Mr. Upton defeated his Democratic challenger by four and a half percentage points.




https://www.metrotimes.com/news-hits/archives/2019/01/23/new-york-times-joe-biden-campaigned-for-michigan-republican-ahead-of-midterms

emulatorloo

(44,270 posts)
25. Democrats ate Hillary alive? I just remember a few folks disingenuously engaging in innuendo
Thu Jan 24, 2019, 09:35 PM
Jan 2019

and the “Artful Smear.”

Including a couple political operatives, one a hot-headed campaign functionary and the other a consultant who was instrumental in helping elect Putin’s puppet in the Ukraine. Neither are representative of Democrats, and neither are know for their intellectual honesty.

Andy823

(11,495 posts)
20. I didn't see
Thu Jan 24, 2019, 09:10 PM
Jan 2019

Where he addressed the $2200K, did I miss it? My questions for him is did you take the money? If so why? You can say nice things about someone without taking that much money!

Me.

(35,454 posts)
24. Not Only That
Thu Jan 24, 2019, 09:27 PM
Jan 2019

The Cons then used his appearance as propaganda for Upton who was in a tight race against a Dem who went on to lose.

 

UniteFightBack

(8,231 posts)
27. I'm sure if the meeting was about repealing the ACA then Biden wouldn't of been there and I'm
Thu Jan 24, 2019, 09:38 PM
Jan 2019

certain would of not praised him on that front. You're able to do that when you are an objective person...a trait that is sorely lacking in many.

Response to DonViejo (Original post)

BlueStater

(7,596 posts)
8. You publicly praised him and might have cost his opponent the election.
Thu Jan 24, 2019, 08:38 PM
Jan 2019

Lots of old men in their late 70s shooting themselves in the foot lately. Maybe they should take that as a sign that their time as viable presidential candidates has finally passed.

pnwmom

(109,024 posts)
17. Let's not take $200K to give a speech that supports a Republican ACA-repealer over a Democrat.
Thu Jan 24, 2019, 09:05 PM
Jan 2019
https://www.metrotimes.com/news-hits/archives/2019/01/23/new-york-times-joe-biden-campaigned-for-michigan-republican-ahead-of-midterms

Centrist Democrat Joe Biden campaigned in October for Republican Rep. Fred Upton just ahead of the midterms.

Biden, who is considering a 2020 run for the presidency, did so at a time when Democrats were desperate to take control of the House and gain some power to stop Trump.

The New York Times reports that Biden was paid $200,000 to speak at a rally in Benton Harbor, and he and the GOP were successful as Upton edged Democrat Matt Longjohn by four points.

SNIP

Mr. Biden’s remarks, coming amid a wide-ranging discourse on American politics, quickly appeared in Republican advertising. The local Democratic Party pleaded with Mr. Biden to repair what it saw as a damaging error, to no avail. On Nov. 6, Mr. Upton defeated his Democratic challenger by four and a half percentage points.
 

LBM20

(1,580 posts)
23. Allow me to join Biden in praising SOME Republicans for SOME things over the years. Read on:
Thu Jan 24, 2019, 09:16 PM
Jan 2019

(First, WATCH THE VIDEO. What Biden is saying is just fine. WATCH THE VIDEO!!)

Praise for some R's on some issues:

* Lincoln for being instrumental in freeing the slaves, saving the union.
* TR for the national parks and some workplace safety reforms.
* Ike for the national highway system and warning us against the military industrial complex.
* Nixon for the EPA, methodone clinics, and an arms treaty with Russia.
* Reagan for working with Tip O'Neill to shore up SS and for immigration reform and his praise of our immigrant tradition.
* A number of R's including Bill Cohen from my state of Maine for supporting the impeachment of Nixon when the smoking gun was revealed and he had to go.
* Susan Collins for strongly supporting a woman's right to choose.

Now, don't get me wrong. I have FAR more VERY harsh criticisms of Republicans than praise, especially in the Trump era, but we can find some decent acts some times, and that is ALL Biden is talking about. There are TIMES when you can work together to get something done. And it is necessary at times. Biden is also well known to be very congenial and have many Republican personal friends. He has been around a long time and was always congenial in all those years in the Senate. But make no mistake that he is a strong and very loyal lifelong Dem.

 

EffieBlack

(14,249 posts)
35. He didn't simply praise Upton for doing something good
Thu Jan 24, 2019, 10:49 PM
Jan 2019

He said he was one of the finest people he’d ever worked with - and considering he’d worked with everyone from Barack Obama’s to Ted Kennedy to Paul Wellstone, that’s some pretty serious praise.

 

LBM20

(1,580 posts)
38. One of my very best friends is a Republican. He is one of the finest people I have ever known. But
Fri Jan 25, 2019, 06:56 AM
Jan 2019

we disagree on MANY political issues.

Again, Biden has always been very congenial and has many Republican friends on a personal basis. Ted Kennedy and Orin Hatch were very good friends. Hatch praised Kennedy at his funeral. But they disagreed on most issues. We can't conflate the personal with the political.

 

EffieBlack

(14,249 posts)
39. Whether it's possible to have a Republican friend is not the point
Fri Jan 25, 2019, 11:22 AM
Jan 2019

The point is that he often lacks discretion when he gets caught up in a moment and doesn't seem to know when he should and shouldn't say certain things.

In this instance, Biden went into a community where a Democrat was running in a very tight race against a Republican and essentially publicly endorsed the Republican during a speech for which he was paid $200,000.

Ted Kennedy and Orrin Hatch were friends. But I don't think Ted Kennedy ever went into Utah during a tight race and gave a speech about how Hatch was the finest person he knew. And if you can find any proof that Upton ever returned the favor for Biden or that any of the Republicans Biden loves so much have gone out of their way to endorse him in either of his campaigns for Vice President, please share it.

RandySF

(59,764 posts)
29. Are we going to ignore the fact that Joe lost his eldest child to cancer?
Thu Jan 24, 2019, 09:44 PM
Jan 2019

He praised Upton for supporting research?

 

EffieBlack

(14,249 posts)
34. He didn't simply praise him for supporting research
Thu Jan 24, 2019, 10:47 PM
Jan 2019

He said Upton was one of the finest people he’d ever worked with.

Trying to find a cure for cancer is great. Too bad Upton did everything he could to make sure that a cure would be available to as few people as possible ...

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