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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsJoe Biden Defends Himself for Praising Republican: 'Bless Me, Father, for I Have Sinned'
by Tommy Christopher | Jan 24th, 2019, 1:18 pm
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Speaking at the U.S. Conference of Mayors Winter Meeting Thursday morning, Biden addressed a recently-resurfaced controversy over a paid speech he gave three weeks before the 2018 midterm election, at which he praised Rep. Fred Upton (R-MI).
Look, I get in trouble, I read in the New York Times today that I, one of my problems is, if I were to run for president, I like Republicans, Biden said, then crossed himself while joking Okay, well, bless me Father, for I have sinned.
He was referencing a Times report that showed Biden was paid $200,000 by the Economic Club of Southwestern Michigan to speak at the event. But you know, from where I come from, I dont know how you get anything done unless we start talking to one another again, Biden added.
There was a big article today, Fred Upton, I went out and spoke at an event, and he was there, and I praised him, he explained. And he was in a race, but I praised him about the fight against cancer. His vote and his ability to join me and the, theres a CURES Act that was passed that was over 8 1/2 billion dollars, to fight cancer. And it mattered, save peoples lives, and he stepped up. He and three other Republicans stepped up and helped us pass it.
And so I acknowledged that, and now Im a, I dont know what I am, Biden said.
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stonecutter357
(12,698 posts)Eliot Rosewater
(31,137 posts)Personally, any GOP member who supports rump must NEVER be supported, but I know who Joe Biden is, and I like him.
pnwmom
(109,024 posts)and now he's being snarky and dismissive about it.
emulatorloo
(44,270 posts)8 1/2 billion dollars, to fight cancer. And it mattered, save peoples lives, and he stepped up. He and three other Republicans stepped up and helped us pass it.
pnwmom
(109,024 posts)That is the bottom line. Is cancer care only for the wealthy, or who are lucky enough to work for the right company? Or should EVERYONE be able to get treated for cancer -- no matter how little money they have or what their preexisting conditions may be?
emulatorloo
(44,270 posts)I understand you are angry, but insinuating that Biden is against universal healthcare for all Americans isnt right.
pnwmom
(109,024 posts)I'm not insinuating anything. Biden's actions speak for themselves.
emulatorloo
(44,270 posts)Is cancer care only for the wealthy, or who are lucky enough to work for the right company? Or should EVERYONE be able to get treated for cancer -- no matter how little money they have or what their preexisting conditions may be?
Please provide any action or statement that Biden has made that indicates he believes cancer care is only for the wealthy, or is against care for those who have preexisting conditions.
You cant.
The end. I am a big fan of your posts but I am done talking about this with you.
I understand that you dont want Biden to run for President in 2020, which is a reasonable thing to want. But pretending he is against universal healthcare is not right.
pnwmom
(109,024 posts)Biden took that I am questioning.
The Republican then took that praise and turned it into POLITICAL ADS about what a great centrist he was. Meanwhile, the Democrats were trying to contact Biden to see if he would endorse the Democrat, and he wouldn't even TALK to them.
emulatorloo
(44,270 posts)Nope he praised him for getting over 8.5 billion dollars for Cancer research.
Have a nice night. Like I say I usually love your posts, but not this series.
pnwmom
(109,024 posts)Tipperary
(6,930 posts)The snarky, dismissive tone is grating.
EffieBlack
(14,249 posts)Can you imagine if shed gotten speaking fees AND during the paid speech, she essentially endorsed a Republican in a tight race?
pnwmom
(109,024 posts)against a perfectly good Democrat.
The local Democratic party must have been shocked. I bet they won't be endorsing Biden during the primaries.
https://www.metrotimes.com/news-hits/archives/2019/01/23/new-york-times-joe-biden-campaigned-for-michigan-republican-ahead-of-midterms
Cha
(298,044 posts)emulatorloo
(44,270 posts)and the Artful Smear.
Including a couple political operatives, one a hot-headed campaign functionary and the other a consultant who was instrumental in helping elect Putins puppet in the Ukraine. Neither are representative of Democrats, and neither are know for their intellectual honesty.
Andy823
(11,495 posts)Where he addressed the $2200K, did I miss it? My questions for him is did you take the money? If so why? You can say nice things about someone without taking that much money!
The Cons then used his appearance as propaganda for Upton who was in a tight race against a Dem who went on to lose.
UniteFightBack
(8,231 posts)certain would of not praised him on that front. You're able to do that when you are an objective person...a trait that is sorely lacking in many.
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1620rock
(2,218 posts)pnwmom
(109,024 posts)EffieBlack
(14,249 posts)shanny
(6,709 posts)Have been for some time, but only one side seemed to be aware.
BlueStater
(7,596 posts)Lots of old men in their late 70s shooting themselves in the foot lately. Maybe they should take that as a sign that their time as viable presidential candidates has finally passed.
Autumn
(45,120 posts)KentuckyWoman
(6,700 posts)Love the man's sense of humor.
flamingdem
(39,337 posts)our own.
pnwmom
(109,024 posts)Centrist Democrat Joe Biden campaigned in October for Republican Rep. Fred Upton just ahead of the midterms.
Biden, who is considering a 2020 run for the presidency, did so at a time when Democrats were desperate to take control of the House and gain some power to stop Trump.
The New York Times reports that Biden was paid $200,000 to speak at a rally in Benton Harbor, and he and the GOP were successful as Upton edged Democrat Matt Longjohn by four points.
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Mr. Bidens remarks, coming amid a wide-ranging discourse on American politics, quickly appeared in Republican advertising. The local Democratic Party pleaded with Mr. Biden to repair what it saw as a damaging error, to no avail. On Nov. 6, Mr. Upton defeated his Democratic challenger by four and a half percentage points.
LBM20
(1,580 posts)(First, WATCH THE VIDEO. What Biden is saying is just fine. WATCH THE VIDEO!!)
Praise for some R's on some issues:
* Lincoln for being instrumental in freeing the slaves, saving the union.
* TR for the national parks and some workplace safety reforms.
* Ike for the national highway system and warning us against the military industrial complex.
* Nixon for the EPA, methodone clinics, and an arms treaty with Russia.
* Reagan for working with Tip O'Neill to shore up SS and for immigration reform and his praise of our immigrant tradition.
* A number of R's including Bill Cohen from my state of Maine for supporting the impeachment of Nixon when the smoking gun was revealed and he had to go.
* Susan Collins for strongly supporting a woman's right to choose.
Now, don't get me wrong. I have FAR more VERY harsh criticisms of Republicans than praise, especially in the Trump era, but we can find some decent acts some times, and that is ALL Biden is talking about. There are TIMES when you can work together to get something done. And it is necessary at times. Biden is also well known to be very congenial and have many Republican personal friends. He has been around a long time and was always congenial in all those years in the Senate. But make no mistake that he is a strong and very loyal lifelong Dem.
EffieBlack
(14,249 posts)He said he was one of the finest people hed ever worked with - and considering hed worked with everyone from Barack Obamas to Ted Kennedy to Paul Wellstone, thats some pretty serious praise.
LBM20
(1,580 posts)we disagree on MANY political issues.
Again, Biden has always been very congenial and has many Republican friends on a personal basis. Ted Kennedy and Orin Hatch were very good friends. Hatch praised Kennedy at his funeral. But they disagreed on most issues. We can't conflate the personal with the political.
EffieBlack
(14,249 posts)The point is that he often lacks discretion when he gets caught up in a moment and doesn't seem to know when he should and shouldn't say certain things.
In this instance, Biden went into a community where a Democrat was running in a very tight race against a Republican and essentially publicly endorsed the Republican during a speech for which he was paid $200,000.
Ted Kennedy and Orrin Hatch were friends. But I don't think Ted Kennedy ever went into Utah during a tight race and gave a speech about how Hatch was the finest person he knew. And if you can find any proof that Upton ever returned the favor for Biden or that any of the Republicans Biden loves so much have gone out of their way to endorse him in either of his campaigns for Vice President, please share it.
RandySF
(59,764 posts)He praised Upton for supporting research?
emulatorloo
(44,270 posts)Trying to cure Cancer is a BFD
EffieBlack
(14,249 posts)He said Upton was one of the finest people hed ever worked with.
Trying to find a cure for cancer is great. Too bad Upton did everything he could to make sure that a cure would be available to as few people as possible ...
LongtimeAZDem
(4,494 posts)Gothmog
(145,894 posts)Link to tweet
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DemocratSinceBirth
(99,719 posts)We'll be civil when they're civil.