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DemocratSinceBirth

(99,719 posts)
Fri Jan 25, 2019, 10:50 AM Jan 2019

Why Trump Will Lose in 2020. Our base is bigger than his base

With several major Democratic primary candidates having declared, the palace intrigue of America’s 2020 presidential election is already in nearly full swing. But what if I were to tell you that barring a significant unforeseen shock to the system, the outcome of 2020 is already set in stone?

The high levels of hyperpartisanship and polarization in the electorate have profoundly affected the political behavior of Americans and, by extension, made the outcome of our elections highly predictable.

Always powerful, partisanship has become the be-all and end-all for American voters. With these political dynamics, a person accused of sexual misconduct against teenage girls and young women can run for and win upward of 90 percent of his party’s vote — as the Republican Roy Moore did, according to exit polls, in the special Senate election in Alabama in 2017.

Yet a key aspect of polarization has been somewhat overlooked: negative partisanship. Voters with this attitude are mobilized not by love of their own party so much as by hatred of the opposition party. Negative partisanship especially benefits the party that doesn’t hold the presidency, because out-party voters find themselves living in a world where their political preferences are under constant assault, or at least appear to be so.

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https://www.nytimes.com/2019/01/24/opinion/trump-2020-election.html?action=click&module=Opinion&pgtype=Homepage

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Why Trump Will Lose in 2020. Our base is bigger than his base (Original Post) DemocratSinceBirth Jan 2019 OP
our base is bigger, we are madder and we are going to kick the bums out everywhere beachbum bob Jan 2019 #1
He won't be running. JenniferJuniper Jan 2019 #2
Oh ! THAT'S why they are not allowing any challengers in the primaries !!! pangaia Jan 2019 #9
Pence would be an awesome candidate if this was 1920, not 2020. DemocratSinceBirth Jan 2019 #13
Hopefully, but history WILL repeat itself Cosmocat Jan 2019 #3
This is why we need to paint the entire GOP as responsible for Trump MrGrieves Jan 2019 #7
T H I S Cosmocat Jan 2019 #16
2020 will be too late for him to lose... N_E_1 for Tennis Jan 2019 #4
there is one thing that can keep us from winning. MrGrieves Jan 2019 #5
Third party candidates did poorly in the mid terms. Voters know the stakes. DemocratSinceBirth Jan 2019 #8
I hope that rings true in 2020. MrGrieves Jan 2019 #10
In a just world he'd lose 45-50 states... Wounded Bear Jan 2019 #6
Our base has always been bigger FakeNoose Jan 2019 #11
I agree a lot of people think things won't change if they vote kimbutgar Jan 2019 #12
Electoral votes aren't necessarily aligned with the demographic/geographic placements of our larger MANative Jan 2019 #14
The author takes that into consideration. DemocratSinceBirth Jan 2019 #15
It would be a mistake to believe that we can nominate "anyone" for president despite their platform Renew Deal Jan 2019 #17
Embodied in your statement is the assertion the Dems will nominate the least electable person. DemocratSinceBirth Jan 2019 #18
I'm saying that we shouldn't get too cocky Renew Deal Jan 2019 #20
There will be a civil war within the party similar to the one the party had in 1976. DemocratSinceBirth Jan 2019 #21
I predict athena Jan 2019 #19
Our base is bigger, and refuses to vote. Oneironaut Jan 2019 #22

Cosmocat

(14,588 posts)
3. Hopefully, but history WILL repeat itself
Fri Jan 25, 2019, 10:57 AM
Jan 2019

once there is a D nominee, the right wing WILL gin up some absolutely bullshit and scream their bloody heads off, and the media WILL enable it.

I mean, John Kerry was wounded in actual battle and a decorated vet, and he got swiftboated ...
Gore was cast as a lying elite.
Hillary, Dean ...

Hell, BHO got hammed for a month and a half for not wearing a flag pin on his lapel.

 

MrGrieves

(315 posts)
7. This is why we need to paint the entire GOP as responsible for Trump
Fri Jan 25, 2019, 11:07 AM
Jan 2019

They need to be looked on as an anti-American group.

Cosmocat

(14,588 posts)
16. T H I S
Fri Jan 25, 2019, 12:28 PM
Jan 2019

1,000,000 percent agree.

They have always been america hating scumbags, but this needs to the the rallying point for democrats moving forward.

 

MrGrieves

(315 posts)
5. there is one thing that can keep us from winning.
Fri Jan 25, 2019, 11:05 AM
Jan 2019

There is one thing that can keep us from winning.... The spoiler.


A third party that pulls votes from the democratic candidate would sink us.

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,719 posts)
8. Third party candidates did poorly in the mid terms. Voters know the stakes.
Fri Jan 25, 2019, 11:12 AM
Jan 2019

"Presidential-cycle electorates are better for Democrats than midterm electorates are, and the third-party share in 2018 was also at its lowest levels in decades."

FakeNoose

(32,908 posts)
11. Our base has always been bigger
Fri Jan 25, 2019, 11:21 AM
Jan 2019

... but it's harder to motivate liberals and left-leaning people to vote. Especially the younger ones - and we've been too lax about reaching out to make them realize how important this is. I think the tide is turning though. I sure hope it is, because we can't hold on much longer.

kimbutgar

(21,278 posts)
12. I agree a lot of people think things won't change if they vote
Fri Jan 25, 2019, 11:40 AM
Jan 2019

Why waste your time standing in long lines. I’ve heard several people say that. The primary reason why repukes make it difficult to vote.

MANative

(4,113 posts)
14. Electoral votes aren't necessarily aligned with the demographic/geographic placements of our larger
Fri Jan 25, 2019, 12:24 PM
Jan 2019

Base. That's a factor we can't ignore.

Renew Deal

(81,899 posts)
17. It would be a mistake to believe that we can nominate "anyone" for president despite their platform
Fri Jan 25, 2019, 12:30 PM
Jan 2019

or electability.

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,719 posts)
18. Embodied in your statement is the assertion the Dems will nominate the least electable person.
Fri Jan 25, 2019, 12:34 PM
Jan 2019

I don't believe the professor is making that assumption.

Renew Deal

(81,899 posts)
20. I'm saying that we shouldn't get too cocky
Fri Jan 25, 2019, 12:36 PM
Jan 2019

I think there is at least a 50% chance that Trump will not be the nominee. We should be prepared to run the best candidate possible that can win.

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,719 posts)
21. There will be a civil war within the party similar to the one the party had in 1976.
Fri Jan 25, 2019, 12:46 PM
Jan 2019

The difference is there is no Reagan and no Ford. Their candidate will likely be dreadful. The Republican's Faustian bargain came with a cost. I don't see Trump as a "go gently into the good night" type of guy. Who knows what horrors he will inflict on our country on the way out? What if he urges his acolytes to take to the streets? Even if a small fraction do there will be civil unrest, not seen in decades.

athena

(4,187 posts)
19. I predict
Fri Jan 25, 2019, 12:34 PM
Jan 2019

that Democrats will do our best to destroy whichever candidate appears to be winning the primaries. At this time four years ago, HRC looked like a sure thing. I’m sorry, but considering at some of the posts I see on DU attacking some of our strongest candidates, I believe Russian trolls are already hard at work. I am not going to take anything for granted.

Oneironaut

(5,543 posts)
22. Our base is bigger, and refuses to vote.
Fri Jan 25, 2019, 12:51 PM
Jan 2019

Of course, it doesn't help that many Democratic area have long poll lines, etc.

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