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Augiedog

(2,549 posts) Fri Jan 25, 2019, 05:18 PM Jan 2019

Roger Stone says he won't cooperate with mueller...good, go to prison you dumb fuck. Mueller

Doesn’t need anymore informers. He has so many flippers it’s like being in a pancake eating contest. Cooperators are only a little useful anyway. Without hard evidence Mueller’s investigation can’t move.

Cooperators only are useful in filling in and giving a human angle to to an investigation like this at this point. One of Roger Stones problems is appearing even remotely human. One look at him and no matter what he says, no one will believe it. Mueller is better off with Stone just going to prison. So also is the American public.

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Roger Stone says he won't cooperate with mueller...good, go to prison you dumb fuck. Mueller (Original Post) Augiedog Jan 2019 OP

He's talking to an audience of 1. Asking for a pardon. onecaliberal Jan 2019 #1

I know he's counting on a pardon, but can trump* pardon for a crime he's implicated in? Siwsan Jan 2019 #2

Can't pardon him for the obstruction charge I don't believe pecosbob Jan 2019 #3

Could, or would, Mueller keep any charges in his back pocket for later? renate Jan 2019 #4

onecaliberal

(32,996 posts)

1. He's talking to an audience of 1. Asking for a pardon.

Reply to Augiedog (Original post)

Fri Jan 25, 2019, 05:22 PM

Jan 2019

Siwsan

(26,327 posts)

2. I know he's counting on a pardon, but can trump* pardon for a crime he's implicated in?

Reply to Augiedog (Original post)

Fri Jan 25, 2019, 05:25 PM

Jan 2019

(I know - bad sentence structure, but it's the only way to get it to fit.)

Anyway, if the crimes Stone is charge with, and eventually convicted for, involve trump*, I don't see how a pardon is possible. I know there are few restrictions on his pardon power, but surely, that has to be one.

pecosbob

(7,549 posts)

3. Can't pardon him for the obstruction charge I don't believe

Reply to Augiedog (Original post)

Fri Jan 25, 2019, 05:40 PM

Jan 2019

since interacting with Trump is likely an element of the criminal act. That would make Trump a co-conspirator.

renate

(13,776 posts)

4. Could, or would, Mueller keep any charges in his back pocket for later?

Reply to Augiedog (Original post)

Fri Jan 25, 2019, 05:43 PM

Jan 2019

If Stone is convicted of anything at all more than two years from now, whoever is president then won’t want to pardon him.

I assume that would violate his right to a speedy trial, but not if evidence comes to light later in the investigation that would bolster a new case against him.

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