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jodymarie aimee

(3,975 posts)
Fri Jan 25, 2019, 05:50 PM Jan 2019

How come we are so thrilled with our win...we only got 21 days...

I don't understand the deal...I was a battered woman...what if Peter said I will only drink 4 beers a nite instead of 18...which he did and which he reneged on...1 week later.....You can't trust these dicks...they operate on another planet....

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How come we are so thrilled with our win...we only got 21 days... (Original Post) jodymarie aimee Jan 2019 OP
It won't happen again. The Velveteen Ocelot Jan 2019 #1
Not a complete victory, but it finally publicaly unmasked trump*'s true 'negotiating' skills Siwsan Jan 2019 #2
No you can't trust republicans mercuryblues Jan 2019 #3
workers get paid Hermit-The-Prog Jan 2019 #4
Because he can't shut down the government again C_U_L8R Jan 2019 #5
I understand your grief blogslut Jan 2019 #6
We're thrilled because we bought ourselves 35 days. Aristus Jan 2019 #7
Well, you're right in a sense... Goodheart Jan 2019 #8
There wont be another shutdown. It will become too obvious who is causing it if they do it again. honest.abe Jan 2019 #9
Celebrate the victories along the way Midnightwalk Jan 2019 #10
My screen name elsewhere is unique_astrology bobnicewander Jan 2019 #11
For it me its that the workers are going to get paid(very soon) hopefully Afromania Jan 2019 #12
So I'm just catching up with the news, and CNN is rubbing it in ecstatic Jan 2019 #13
Good point. Will there be real regular order.? Hearings? No reason to give him wall money..we Laura PourMeADrink Jan 2019 #14
We can celebrate putting people back to work and getting paid... Wounded Bear Jan 2019 #15
Trump has no control that's why beachbum bob Jan 2019 #16
Celebrate the victories along the way Midnightwalk Jan 2019 #17
temporary was just face-saving KayF Jan 2019 #18
We didn't back down. backscatter712 Jan 2019 #19
Because the Democrats have power, are sticking together and have a fabulous leader. nolabear Jan 2019 #20
Because the woman who needs chemoherqpy AND rent can have both. Nt lostnfound Jan 2019 #21
Because this signals a weakening president and party. Caliman73 Jan 2019 #22
Better than keeping it closed and hurting people... Phentex Jan 2019 #23
Federal workers are getting their back pay lunatica Jan 2019 #24
All the above, plus Nancy is getting accodales for beating him in the MSM. lilactime Jan 2019 #25
because this was a disaster for the KGOP. Voltaire2 Jan 2019 #26
I agree that there's no reason to be thrilled yet... RockRaven Jan 2019 #27
Even his own party won't go for him putting the country... brush Jan 2019 #28
It's more like a touchdown than a win. Dunnjen Jan 2019 #29
This is him backing away slowly while trying to look like he's winning. Chemisse Jan 2019 #30

Siwsan

(26,327 posts)
2. Not a complete victory, but it finally publicaly unmasked trump*'s true 'negotiating' skills
Fri Jan 25, 2019, 05:56 PM
Jan 2019

and has shown him to be a weak man who was bested by what he fears most - a strong woman. It might also serve to maybe start an erosion of his hard core base. Maybe.

I suspect he's going to start massaging his wall criteria.

mercuryblues

(14,557 posts)
3. No you can't trust republicans
Fri Jan 25, 2019, 05:56 PM
Jan 2019

Pelosi and Schumer know that. Which is why they separated out border security from the spending bill. People are back to work, getting paid. That is something to celebrate. trump has backed down and in the meantime shived Graham in the back.

blogslut

(38,022 posts)
6. I understand your grief
Fri Jan 25, 2019, 05:57 PM
Jan 2019

Just the same, we stood our ground and he caved. Sure, he could threaten to close the govt again but it will backfire on him. America got a practical demonstration of exactly what happens when the largest employer in this nation furloughs its workforce.

Aristus

(66,527 posts)
7. We're thrilled because we bought ourselves 35 days.
Fri Jan 25, 2019, 05:58 PM
Jan 2019

Federal workers will get paid again.

And that's 35 days Trump's leash-holders will have to convince him how incredibly damaging the shutdown has been for his popularity; not that it wasn't already shitty among non-shitty people anyway.

35 days for his team of surrogate thinkers to come up with a way for him to save his ugly face while making sure the country runs smoothly.

35 days for them to dream up a sour-grapes-like response like "I never really wanted a wall anyway..."

It's 35 days. It's a gift.

honest.abe

(8,689 posts)
9. There wont be another shutdown. It will become too obvious who is causing it if they do it again.
Fri Jan 25, 2019, 06:00 PM
Jan 2019

The GOP will force Trump to sign it or do a veto override.

Midnightwalk

(3,131 posts)
10. Celebrate the victories along the way
Fri Jan 25, 2019, 06:06 PM
Jan 2019

Besides, I think they won’t shutdown again at least until the debt limit is reached.

I think they don’t really care about the wall, just the fight and the dog whistle. Unless the base revolts now, they’ll punt the wall fight until the 2020 campaign.

I predicted this was over for now once he caved in the SOTU and the RNC agreed not to primary Trump. We’ll see if I got the 2020 part right.

bobnicewander

(814 posts)
11. My screen name elsewhere is unique_astrology
Fri Jan 25, 2019, 06:08 PM
Jan 2019

The 15th is another loser day for the rump. The hits on him just keep on coming closer and closer together in February. Major setbacks in July, steady playing defense all year. Gone January 13th, 2020, 1 year before he completes 1 stolen term in office.

Afromania

(2,771 posts)
12. For it me its that the workers are going to get paid(very soon) hopefully
Fri Jan 25, 2019, 06:08 PM
Jan 2019

The fact people can pay their bills for the moment. I don't know how it will playout from here but I'll take that little bit for the moment.

ecstatic

(32,786 posts)
13. So I'm just catching up with the news, and CNN is rubbing it in
Fri Jan 25, 2019, 06:09 PM
Jan 2019

really hard: trump CAVED!!! But my concern is, trump still has the nuke codes. He's crazy AF. Let's stay calm because this is going to come up again in 3 weeks and it's almost as if they're goading him into not caving next time. Let's get him out of office first, then go full throttle on the taunting and jokes?

 

Laura PourMeADrink

(42,770 posts)
14. Good point. Will there be real regular order.? Hearings? No reason to give him wall money..we
Fri Jan 25, 2019, 06:10 PM
Jan 2019

Know how that ends.

PS sorry for what you went through with Peter

Midnightwalk

(3,131 posts)
17. Celebrate the victories along the way
Fri Jan 25, 2019, 06:21 PM
Jan 2019

Besides, I think they won’t shutdown again at least until the debt limit is reached.

I think they don’t really care about the wall, just the fight and the dog whistle. Unless the base revolts now, they’ll punt the wall fight until the 2020 campaign.

I predicted this was over for now once he caved in the SOTU and the RNC agreed not to primary Trump. We’ll see if I got the 2020 part right.

KayF

(1,345 posts)
18. temporary was just face-saving
Fri Jan 25, 2019, 06:21 PM
Jan 2019

if it would benefit them to renege again, they would. But it wouldn't, so they won't. It was a blunder for them to get into this one, they're glad it's over.

backscatter712

(26,355 posts)
19. We didn't back down.
Fri Jan 25, 2019, 06:23 PM
Jan 2019

All the concessions were from Trump and the GOP.

Mission accomplished, refusing to play along when the MAGAts try hostage-taking.

And I'm betting the GOP won't have the stomach for a second shutdown - they came out of this one smelling like they went swimming in a septic tank.

nolabear

(42,004 posts)
20. Because the Democrats have power, are sticking together and have a fabulous leader.
Fri Jan 25, 2019, 06:32 PM
Jan 2019

Also, Mueller is still working like mad, Spanky is going to look like a fool giving his little speech, he's going to have to declare a state of emergency to try this again and it would be very, very stupid and opposed by all sides, and the world just might be getting a clue that we are fighting against him and he won't represent this country forever.

I don't think anyone is really trusting and stopping any of the work against him. Just the opposite.

And NANCY! We've needed someone to give us this boost and that woman is a leader.

Caliman73

(11,760 posts)
22. Because this signals a weakening president and party.
Fri Jan 25, 2019, 06:38 PM
Jan 2019

Trump owned the shut down. He and the GOP got clobbered for it. Any leverage Trump had before the shutdown to try to get his wall (which was very little) is gone. Any future shutdown will be squarely on the shoulders of Trump and the GOP. They will not get funding for a wall, ever.

While it is true that Trump and the GOP do not have a real moral compass, this situation showed that their game did not really work. There will be less tolerance for their bullshit the next time around and Democrats, led by Nancy Pelosi, know exactly how to play their hand.

Phentex

(16,334 posts)
23. Better than keeping it closed and hurting people...
Fri Jan 25, 2019, 06:39 PM
Jan 2019

it's not anything like a battered woman or drinking less

lunatica

(53,410 posts)
24. Federal workers are getting their back pay
Fri Jan 25, 2019, 06:42 PM
Jan 2019

that’s a huge win!

No one trusts him about what he promises, but in this case he blinked. Of course, he made it look like a win for him but he didn’t win anything at all.

No one trusts him. But it’s a long game. This just one move on the board.

RockRaven

(15,088 posts)
27. I agree that there's no reason to be thrilled yet...
Fri Jan 25, 2019, 06:51 PM
Jan 2019

but it's better than the shutdown continuing. That's all.

brush

(53,977 posts)
28. Even his own party won't go for him putting the country...
Fri Jan 25, 2019, 07:00 PM
Jan 2019

and workers trhough another shut down, and the courts won't go along with him declaring a national emergency after 35 days and then 21 more days. If it was an emergency it should have been declared from the jump.

If he tries it it will be seen as dereliction of duty.

He lost. He's just got to deal with it.

Dunnjen

(65 posts)
29. It's more like a touchdown than a win.
Fri Jan 25, 2019, 07:30 PM
Jan 2019

Something to cheer about that gives us a chance to win. Hope feels good.

Chemisse

(30,824 posts)
30. This is him backing away slowly while trying to look like he's winning.
Fri Jan 25, 2019, 07:31 PM
Jan 2019

In three weeks, he will pretend any extra money for national security is for the wall - even though it specifically won't be - and pivot into some big distraction.

Maybe that's the day the smirking boy and his buddies from the Catholic high school will get their presidential awards for surviving their encounter with the Native American protester.

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