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JI7

(89,289 posts)
Mon Jan 28, 2019, 12:02 AM Jan 2019

The Starbucks Guy doesn't Worry Me

i just can't see who is going to vote for him . how is he a threat ? who are his voters ?

i could understand if it was someone like Steve Jobs who had a certain public appeal and following that it could make a difference.

but i just find it hard to worry about the starbucks guy.

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The Starbucks Guy doesn't Worry Me (Original Post) JI7 Jan 2019 OP
I don't know. TomSlick Jan 2019 #1
Trump was on a major party ticket and i get what you are saying. but my point is still JI7 Jan 2019 #2
Were talking about a country marlakay Jan 2019 #6
i get all of that but i think overall he just doesn't have IT to pull it off. also i think those JI7 Jan 2019 #10
He is pro choice marlakay Jan 2019 #13
people who care about abortion rights will vote for the Democratic Candidate . JI7 Jan 2019 #14
Yes the people paying attention marlakay Jan 2019 #16
Most Republicans are secretly pro-choice. yardwork Jan 2019 #32
Depending on what positions he takes, he could hurt Trump more than the Democratic nominee. Garrett78 Jan 2019 #3
When was the last time a third party candidate took votes away from Control-Z Jan 2019 #17
You'd have to go all the way back to 2016 to find 2 examples. Johnson and McMullin. Garrett78 Jan 2019 #19
Bush-Perot-Clinton in 1992 ansible Jan 2019 #22
Gary Johnson took more votes from Trump than Jill Stein did from Hillary Clinton. Also, Ross Perot. TheBlackAdder Jan 2019 #30
I think people are waking to the fact that business men make crappy scarytomcat Jan 2019 #21
Need to consider the Russian factor. delisen Jan 2019 #4
Ross Perot was very unlikely, too. aikoaiko Jan 2019 #5
Ross was a Libertarian who drew more votes from Republicans. TheBlackAdder Jan 2019 #28
Of course, but there is a lesson for us when we see a moneyed 3rd party enter a campaign. aikoaiko Jan 2019 #34
But Republicans were deeply disappointed with GHW Bush TexasBushwhacker Jan 2019 #37
Hopefully so. aikoaiko Jan 2019 #38
Steve Jobs has been dead for a few years. nt Blue_true Jan 2019 #7
i'm talking about his popularity and how someone who had that might be a threat JI7 Jan 2019 #8
Ok, I see your point. I agree, the coffee man does not have the presence Blue_true Jan 2019 #11
or like an Elon Musk type JI7 Jan 2019 #24
Schulz is a scammer Blues Heron Jan 2019 #9
Yeah, that does suck and is slimey. nt Blue_true Jan 2019 #12
"Raise your hand if you want another politically inexperienced billionaire in the White House!" struggle4progress Jan 2019 #15
Yay, a billionaire Ralph Nader for once! TheBlackAdder Jan 2019 #27
No self-respecting liberal I know ZZenith Jan 2019 #18
I don't know but as one man said he'd sell every share he bought malaise Jan 2019 #20
Time to dump Starbucks stock if you've got any because there WILL be a backlash hlthe2b Jan 2019 #23
Is this the Republican guy who convinced all the hipsters Starbucks is a liberal organization? TheBlackAdder Jan 2019 #26
I'm with you on "Pike's Place" blend... uggh. I'm convinced that is why they had to hlthe2b Jan 2019 #29
I request a pour over when they say it's too late to get a bold. TheBlackAdder Jan 2019 #31
The first question that comes to mind: What's His Russia / China Connection? TheBlackAdder Jan 2019 #25
Yes. Also, what's his real end goal. Populist leaders Hortensis Jan 2019 #35
I heard him speak this morning. Not worried either he is very UNLIKEABLE. nt UniteFightBack Jan 2019 #33
On-point observation, but how would he sound on the stump? Hortensis Jan 2019 #36
Dude is dull as dishwater blogslut Jan 2019 #39
Free advertisement? kentuck Jan 2019 #40

TomSlick

(11,150 posts)
1. I don't know.
Mon Jan 28, 2019, 12:04 AM
Jan 2019

Trump owes his election to a hand full of votes in a hand full of counties.

It doesn't take much to foul an election.

JI7

(89,289 posts)
2. Trump was on a major party ticket and i get what you are saying. but my point is still
Mon Jan 28, 2019, 12:06 AM
Jan 2019

who does he appeal to ?

marlakay

(11,540 posts)
6. Were talking about a country
Mon Jan 28, 2019, 12:12 AM
Jan 2019

Where most people think they know what’s going on but really aren’t paying attention at all.

What about someone who loves starbucks? Who has always liked him from there? Someone who thinks here is a businessman who didn’t file bankruptcy.

Personally though I turned the tv on in the middle of his talking didn’t recognize him at first and thought it was a Republican talking.

In the smaller states he wouldn’t have to take many votes to threaten the dem candidate.

JI7

(89,289 posts)
10. i get all of that but i think overall he just doesn't have IT to pull it off. also i think those
Mon Jan 28, 2019, 12:42 AM
Jan 2019

likely to vote republican will vote for him.

marlakay

(11,540 posts)
13. He is pro choice
Mon Jan 28, 2019, 12:55 AM
Jan 2019

And believes in mostly democrat positions. The only republican I could see voting for him would be young pro choice ones. How many of them actually vote?

JI7

(89,289 posts)
14. people who care about abortion rights will vote for the Democratic Candidate .
Mon Jan 28, 2019, 01:01 AM
Jan 2019

if they don't they DO NOT care for abortion rights.

marlakay

(11,540 posts)
16. Yes the people paying attention
Mon Jan 28, 2019, 01:09 AM
Jan 2019

But the point is we have a ton of people that vote on a damn whim. Who ever feels good to them for whatever reason.

Garrett78

(10,721 posts)
3. Depending on what positions he takes, he could hurt Trump more than the Democratic nominee.
Mon Jan 28, 2019, 12:07 AM
Jan 2019

More than likely, he won't do any better than the typical 3rd party candidate.

Control-Z

(15,682 posts)
17. When was the last time a third party candidate took votes away from
Mon Jan 28, 2019, 03:24 AM
Jan 2019

the Republican? Deep inside most of us know that "Independents" are seldom actually working for liberal values.

They run as Democrats-but-better. Whether it's true or not it is the Democratic nominee who always loses more votes to them.

Garrett78

(10,721 posts)
19. You'd have to go all the way back to 2016 to find 2 examples. Johnson and McMullin.
Mon Jan 28, 2019, 05:35 AM
Jan 2019

And then 2012. And then 2008. And then 2004. And, well, every presidential election.

I don't know where you got the idea that 3rd party candidates only hurt the Democratic nominee.

scarytomcat

(1,706 posts)
21. I think people are waking to the fact that business men make crappy
Mon Jan 28, 2019, 06:46 AM
Jan 2019

politicians and he will hurt dump more

delisen

(6,050 posts)
4. Need to consider the Russian factor.
Mon Jan 28, 2019, 12:08 AM
Jan 2019

The Russians who were indicted by Mueller were boosting Bernie Sanders and Trump. If the Starbucks exec gets help from Russian operatives he may become a factor.

aikoaiko

(34,186 posts)
34. Of course, but there is a lesson for us when we see a moneyed 3rd party enter a campaign.
Mon Jan 28, 2019, 08:46 AM
Jan 2019


Ross Perot essentially became the kingmaker for. Clinton.

TexasBushwhacker

(20,256 posts)
37. But Republicans were deeply disappointed with GHW Bush
Mon Jan 28, 2019, 09:40 AM
Jan 2019

He said "Read my lips. No new taxes." and then approved new taxes. How dare he?!

We don't know who the Democratic candidate will be yet, but will ANY of them inspire defection to a throwaway vote for a third party, knowing the stakes? Jill Stein got a whopping 1% of the vote in 2016, despite some Democrats dislike of Clinton. I think we learned our lesson in 2000.

JI7

(89,289 posts)
8. i'm talking about his popularity and how someone who had that might be a threat
Mon Jan 28, 2019, 12:21 AM
Jan 2019

but this guy does not have that.

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
11. Ok, I see your point. I agree, the coffee man does not have the presence
Mon Jan 28, 2019, 12:48 AM
Jan 2019

that a moneyed person like Mark Cuban would bring.

JI7

(89,289 posts)
24. or like an Elon Musk type
Mon Jan 28, 2019, 07:20 AM
Jan 2019

who himself could not run . but they have a certain personality and following that gets attention .

the starbucks guy is a lincoln chafee type .

Blues Heron

(5,955 posts)
9. Schulz is a scammer
Mon Jan 28, 2019, 12:36 AM
Jan 2019

He invented the small means tall scam. Go into starbucks, ask for a small coffee. You will receive and be charged for a "tall" . The ACTUAL small is called "short," is not on the menu, nor are the baristas allowed to mention it unless you say the magic code word "short" and it is the cheaper option. Total scam.

Do not trust this man.

ZZenith

(4,136 posts)
18. No self-respecting liberal I know
Mon Jan 28, 2019, 03:33 AM
Jan 2019

would ever set foot in a Starbucks.

The only thing worse than their business model is the taste of their coffee.

malaise

(269,333 posts)
20. I don't know but as one man said he'd sell every share he bought
Mon Jan 28, 2019, 06:27 AM
Jan 2019

and would not buy another cup. That should sort this one out quickly.

hlthe2b

(102,564 posts)
23. Time to dump Starbucks stock if you've got any because there WILL be a backlash
Mon Jan 28, 2019, 07:16 AM
Jan 2019

I find it incredibly foolish.

TheBlackAdder

(28,261 posts)
26. Is this the Republican guy who convinced all the hipsters Starbucks is a liberal organization?
Mon Jan 28, 2019, 08:37 AM
Jan 2019

.

Worse yet. Is this the asshole who thinks Pike's Place is a good tasting blend and forces it on the stores?

.

hlthe2b

(102,564 posts)
29. I'm with you on "Pike's Place" blend... uggh. I'm convinced that is why they had to
Mon Jan 28, 2019, 08:40 AM
Jan 2019

introduce "pour over" as an alternative. I think a lot of people will not drink that, which is their default brew. I will say it is slightly better iced as a latte, but only if you have some to get rid of (as I did).

TheBlackAdder

(28,261 posts)
25. The first question that comes to mind: What's His Russia / China Connection?
Mon Jan 28, 2019, 08:36 AM
Jan 2019

.

He has almost no followers and seems to like China.

.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
35. Yes. Also, what's his real end goal. Populist leaders
Mon Jan 28, 2019, 08:49 AM
Jan 2019

tend to lie about that big time. I don't believe for a moment that this billionaire could possibly be stupid or delusional enough to buy into the stuff he was pushing about us on 60 Minutes. He's casting out the usual bait to draw those who are.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
36. On-point observation, but how would he sound on the stump?
Mon Jan 28, 2019, 08:51 AM
Jan 2019

I want to hear he doesn't have Sanders' or Palin's talent in order to go back to waiting for someone who does.

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