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Back in mid October my wife of 49 years and 7 months woke up on a Wednesday and decided we should separate for awhile. A week later she filed divorce papers. It was a complete surprise and a shock because she never gave any indication of unhappiness. Not a single clue or complaint.
She gave me four reasons for the breakup over the next month; I was angry all the time and "took a tone" with her, she wants to be independent and capable of being on her own and because our next door neighbor (15 years younger than we are) was diagnosed with Pancreatic cancer causing her to re-evaluate her life at 70 and just needs to "do something with her life".
On November first I moved out and into a 600 sq foot apartment.
My grown daughter and I spent a long time comparing notes and have come to what we think is the REAL reason she blew up our marriage and all of my life and future. About two years ago she was diagnosed with generalized epilepsy. He Neurologist prescribed Keppra in a low dose, one tab in the morning and two at night. She immediately became easily distracted and rambled when talking to the point that she actually babbled. At our urging she discussed these side effects with her doctor who immediately reduced dosage by 30%. She got a little better but could still wandered off topic to the point not being able to maintain a conversation. She also seemed agitated and tended to snap at us at every exchange. In September she lost all interest in sex and and the ability to orgasm. Googling Keppra and side effects we found those symptoms to be common side effects along with memory loss and changes in personality.
Again at our urging she asked the Neurologist about these and other symptoms with my daughter on a three way conference call. She denied having any of the behaviors described. The neurologist considered our concerns and prescribed another drug that takes 3 months to titrate up as the Keppra titrates down. She refuses to fill the new prescription. I have asked why and she says all our concerns are imaginary. Finally I pleaded with her, telling her that everybody who knows and loves her has seen the changes and spoken to her about them and I asked if she would please consider taking her doctor's advice. The answer was a resounding "NO!" in her typical snappish fashion.
So it seems that our marriage is irredeemable. Keppra has killed the woman I loved and lived with for all those years. She has been replaced with a body double with a completely different personality.
The only good thing is that we have finally found something about our breakup that bothers her. She's going to have to cash out half of her 401k, about $350,000 and pay income taxes on it before transferring it to my account. That seems to be giving her heartburn.
Valentines Day would have been 50 years.
ETA
I have moved out of the apartment which in my current state of mind is nothing but a suicide trap and am sleeping on daughter and SIL's couch. We will convert the 11x12 formal dining to a bedroom.
Voltaire2
(13,272 posts)The financial hit on 401ks hurts both parties, right? The tax laws for peasants are abominable. What should happen is that any division just transfers directly to an equivalent 401k or ira in your name.
flamin lib
(14,559 posts)consequences she might have been able to make a direct transfer because it is all community property but the divorce is public knowledge. The account management looks at doing a transfer now as tax evasion.
Yet another side effect of Keppra, a woman who was a highly paid paralegal for 45 years did not plan anything prior to hiring a lawyer and filing.
mopinko
(70,388 posts)as long as the 401k gets rolled into an ira, there is no tax impact. just when it comes out.
feel free to not tell her that, tho.
it infuriates me that neurologists and psychiatrists dont seem to share a knowledge base.
shrinks didnt catch my daughter's epilepsy, and neurologists dont seem to have a clue how her brain injury is related to her emotional turmoil.
that dr should take it upon himself to talk her down.
whatever it takes.
anything less is malpractice.
Ms. Toad
(34,130 posts)Doing a transfer from a retirement to a retirement account is not tax evasion. Have your/her attorney work on a QDRO. There is no reason to forfeit a portion of the 401(k) marital property as to taxes just because she/you have bad tax advice.
jberryhill
(62,444 posts)Its not a taxable event.
DontBooVote
(901 posts)(mother in-law) returned to town after being away for years, the entirety of our relationship. My love was pressured and then caved to her ex-MIL and returned to the church. I could not follow.
50 years. SMH. I'm so sorry, flamin.
lunatica
(53,410 posts)I can only send you and your daughter hugs and hopes for a solution. Its terrible to lose people to diseases and drugs that destroy their minds.
Perhaps a miracle will happen where she agrees to help herself.
Polly Hennessey
(6,817 posts)Fifty years is worth something. What must be devastating is that it is a drug that failed your relationship.
LongtimeAZDem
(4,494 posts)harumph
(1,922 posts)I'm so sorry to hear this. 49 years shows great stability and maturity.
Please continue to rely on your daughter's support and any other
understanding family members during this tough time.
The mental effects of medications are not well appreciated.
oasis
(49,490 posts)intervention would be helpful.
flamin lib
(14,559 posts)couples, individual or church based. She is adamant that she has no side effects.
oasis
(49,490 posts)during a conversation about something else. Being indirect might be helpful.
Control-Z
(15,682 posts)if the doctor doesn't write the Rx for her. Talk to the doctor more and see how he can help. You said she's titrating one Rx down and a new one up. It will take a few months but she will even eventually be completely off the medication causing the personality change. See if the doctor can speed up the process or just hold on until the change is complete. She may be herself again by then?
I'm so sorry about what you're going through.
flamin lib
(14,559 posts)but she refuses to fill it much less actually take it.
Control-Z
(15,682 posts)She won't fill and take the new Rx but is still taking the old Rx? Is the doctor cutting back on the amount she gets (of the old Rx) each month, titrating down?
Srkdqltr
(6,386 posts)I have focal seizures. At first I took some meds. Didn't stop them but they slowed my heart and I passed out. Doctors said stop the meds. After a while I was laughing at something and my husband said it was the first time he heard me laugh since before I started on the meds. I also had double vision from time to time. I decided to do without the pills . I put up with the seizures. I'm sorry your wife is having this prob and cannot see it.
pandr32
(11,644 posts)Unless she plans to remarry I don't understand why a divorce should be part of the seperation. Why not an indefinite seperation where you maintain some communication and shared finances you both agree on? I would bet dollars to doughnuts it would sort itself out, especially if you were supportive and stood by her whatever her choices are. She needs a change and some time.
Sometimes many of us hit a crisis and just need time to sort it out. It may be her illness or drugs, or perhaps the realization that she is in her seventies and has a low ceiling over her time left.
Counseling could be beneficial.
Best to you both.
flamin lib
(14,559 posts)together.
displacedtexan
(15,696 posts)the divorce is her way of maintaining sole control over her life. Does that make sense, considering the medication issue?
pandr32
(11,644 posts)... until you both get counseling first. 50 years on one hand and a surprise on the other. She must know that her decision affects others and she must not make a mistake that will cause a lot of stress and grief.
Best of luck!
Hekate
(91,045 posts)malaise
(269,328 posts)qazplm135
(7,447 posts)I can't even imagine.
Hekate
(91,045 posts)patricia92243
(12,607 posts)the side effects will stop. So, just be patient and I really believe it will take care of itself.
sagetea
(1,376 posts)Even more so in this situation. I am very sorry, please love yourself through this time and find a sport that you love and just be.
Aho`
sage
mountain grammy
(26,676 posts)Seems unbelievable but Ive seen it too. Good luck to you and please dont give up hope. Sounds like you raised a great daughter.
underpants
(183,043 posts)sharedvalues
(6,916 posts)You have grandkids?
Its really great your daughter and SIL are being supportive
yardwork
(61,795 posts)Does her doctor know what is happening in your lives? It sounds like some kind of medical intervention might be warranted. If your wife is not in her "right mind" because of medication, the doctor may be able to talk with her or do something.
ProudLib72
(17,984 posts)My wife initiated a divorce at the end of June, two weeks before our 11th anniversary. Things had not been going well, but when I tried to discuss the possibility of counseling, she shot me down. And as weird as this sounds, I will swear her radical change in diet precipitated the divorce.
Anyway, I know that 11 years does not compare to your 50! Things get better. They really do. It takes a long time, but you will feel better.
MLAA
(17,375 posts)What a shock you have had (are having). Keep talking to your friends and family, including us your DU family!
DashOneBravo
(2,679 posts)I wish you the best
Bettie
(16,151 posts)Just so sorry that you lost your partner, it's obvious that you love her very much.
jberryhill
(62,444 posts)But we really cant.
Texasgal
(17,049 posts)to read.
I am so very sorry.
My husband of 20 years died two years ago. I would give anything... even a limb to have him with me and going to 50 years.
Many hugs to you, I know it's not much but it's the only way that I can express myself to you and this news.
pnwmom
(109,025 posts)Good for your daughter and SIL for supporting you -- it shows the kind of relationship you have with them. (Not every SIL would want an in-law moving in.)
area51
(11,944 posts)Generic Other
(28,979 posts)We all hope that our significant other will always be there for us, and after 50 years especially. People lose partners in such painful ways. What you are describing sounds devastating. I sincerely hope you get through this difficult period.
MarvinGardens
(779 posts)The wrong drug can really mess a person up. I've been through a divorce, where my wife of 7 years suddenly decided our differences were irreconcilable. Nothing I said or did would cause her to change her mind. I know it was small compared to 50 years, but I remember the heartbreak. You have my full sympathy. I hope you both can work it out.