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flamin lib

(14,559 posts)
Mon Jan 28, 2019, 05:02 PM Jan 2019

Update on the end of a 50 year marriage.

If this the wrong place move or delete it.

Back in mid October my wife of 49 years and 7 months woke up on a Wednesday and decided we should separate for awhile. A week later she filed divorce papers. It was a complete surprise and a shock because she never gave any indication of unhappiness. Not a single clue or complaint.

She gave me four reasons for the breakup over the next month; I was angry all the time and "took a tone" with her, she wants to be independent and capable of being on her own and because our next door neighbor (15 years younger than we are) was diagnosed with Pancreatic cancer causing her to re-evaluate her life at 70 and just needs to "do something with her life".

On November first I moved out and into a 600 sq foot apartment.

My grown daughter and I spent a long time comparing notes and have come to what we think is the REAL reason she blew up our marriage and all of my life and future. About two years ago she was diagnosed with generalized epilepsy. He Neurologist prescribed Keppra in a low dose, one tab in the morning and two at night. She immediately became easily distracted and rambled when talking to the point that she actually babbled. At our urging she discussed these side effects with her doctor who immediately reduced dosage by 30%. She got a little better but could still wandered off topic to the point not being able to maintain a conversation. She also seemed agitated and tended to snap at us at every exchange. In September she lost all interest in sex and and the ability to orgasm. Googling Keppra and side effects we found those symptoms to be common side effects along with memory loss and changes in personality.

Again at our urging she asked the Neurologist about these and other symptoms with my daughter on a three way conference call. She denied having any of the behaviors described. The neurologist considered our concerns and prescribed another drug that takes 3 months to titrate up as the Keppra titrates down. She refuses to fill the new prescription. I have asked why and she says all our concerns are imaginary. Finally I pleaded with her, telling her that everybody who knows and loves her has seen the changes and spoken to her about them and I asked if she would please consider taking her doctor's advice. The answer was a resounding "NO!" in her typical snappish fashion.

So it seems that our marriage is irredeemable. Keppra has killed the woman I loved and lived with for all those years. She has been replaced with a body double with a completely different personality.

The only good thing is that we have finally found something about our breakup that bothers her. She's going to have to cash out half of her 401k, about $350,000 and pay income taxes on it before transferring it to my account. That seems to be giving her heartburn.

Valentines Day would have been 50 years.

ETA

I have moved out of the apartment which in my current state of mind is nothing but a suicide trap and am sleeping on daughter and SIL's couch. We will convert the 11x12 formal dining to a bedroom.

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Update on the end of a 50 year marriage. (Original Post) flamin lib Jan 2019 OP
Sorry. Sounds horrible. Voltaire2 Jan 2019 #1
No, the tax burden is all hers. Had she not filed divorce papers before thinkink through the flamin lib Jan 2019 #4
property divisions in a divorce is not a taxable event. mopinko Jan 2019 #17
I was about to jump in and say the same thing as mopinko - Ms. Toad Jan 2019 #26
Amen to the comments above jberryhill Jan 2019 #32
My sincerest symapthies, flamin. The love of my life had left the church before we met. Her ex MIL DontBooVote Jan 2019 #2
I hope this can be reversed! lunatica Jan 2019 #3
Sad to hear. Polly Hennessey Jan 2019 #5
My sincere sympathy; I'm glad you have your daughter LongtimeAZDem Jan 2019 #6
Medications can cause personality shift - harumph Jan 2019 #7
Hope you can work things out. Maybe an impartial, 3rd party oasis Jan 2019 #8
That was suggested and rebuffed as was any form of counseling; flamin lib Jan 2019 #13
Perhaps in a setting where the issue is subtlety brought up oasis Jan 2019 #16
She can't take the prescription Control-Z Jan 2019 #9
Her Dr has written the prescription flamin lib Jan 2019 #12
Making sure I understand - Control-Z Jan 2019 #18
I'm so sorry Srkdqltr Jan 2019 #10
Sorry for asking, but why a divorce? pandr32 Jan 2019 #11
This was one of my suggestions but it was rebuffed. She is adamant that we not go through life flamin lib Jan 2019 #14
Sad, but it sounds like displacedtexan Jan 2019 #22
So sorry. Tell her you won't agree pandr32 Jan 2019 #37
She's in an altered state and making decisions that cannot be undone Hekate Jan 2019 #20
This is so sad malaise Jan 2019 #15
pretty much qazplm135 Jan 2019 #23
I am so very sorry. I can't add anything to what others are saying. This is horrible. nt Hekate Jan 2019 #19
When the old meds run out, she won't have any choice but to take the new ones. Hopefully, patricia92243 Jan 2019 #21
Heartbreak is the worst pain... sagetea Jan 2019 #24
I am so sorry mountain grammy Jan 2019 #25
Just marking. I have no comment. underpants Jan 2019 #27
Sorry :( sharedvalues Jan 2019 #28
I'm very sorry. Have you talked with her doctor? yardwork Jan 2019 #29
I know it won't make the pain go away, but I can relate ProudLib72 Jan 2019 #30
Sending you kind thoughts. MLAA Jan 2019 #31
Sorry to hear this FL DashOneBravo Jan 2019 #33
I'm so sorry Bettie Jan 2019 #34
We think we can be objective about ourselves jberryhill Jan 2019 #35
Oh man... this is just awful and hurtful Texasgal Jan 2019 #36
I am so sorry. The drug could definitely have had an effect like that. What a shame. pnwmom Jan 2019 #38
I'm so sorry. n/t area51 Jan 2019 #39
I am saddened by your story Generic Other Jan 2019 #40
This is tragic. MarvinGardens Jan 2019 #41

Voltaire2

(13,272 posts)
1. Sorry. Sounds horrible.
Mon Jan 28, 2019, 05:10 PM
Jan 2019

The financial hit on 401ks hurts both parties, right? The tax laws for peasants are abominable. What should happen is that any division just transfers directly to an equivalent 401k or ira in your name.

flamin lib

(14,559 posts)
4. No, the tax burden is all hers. Had she not filed divorce papers before thinkink through the
Mon Jan 28, 2019, 05:15 PM
Jan 2019

consequences she might have been able to make a direct transfer because it is all community property but the divorce is public knowledge. The account management looks at doing a transfer now as tax evasion.

Yet another side effect of Keppra, a woman who was a highly paid paralegal for 45 years did not plan anything prior to hiring a lawyer and filing.

mopinko

(70,388 posts)
17. property divisions in a divorce is not a taxable event.
Mon Jan 28, 2019, 05:55 PM
Jan 2019

as long as the 401k gets rolled into an ira, there is no tax impact. just when it comes out.
feel free to not tell her that, tho.

it infuriates me that neurologists and psychiatrists dont seem to share a knowledge base.
shrinks didnt catch my daughter's epilepsy, and neurologists dont seem to have a clue how her brain injury is related to her emotional turmoil.

that dr should take it upon himself to talk her down.
whatever it takes.
anything less is malpractice.

Ms. Toad

(34,130 posts)
26. I was about to jump in and say the same thing as mopinko -
Mon Jan 28, 2019, 08:45 PM
Jan 2019

Doing a transfer from a retirement to a retirement account is not tax evasion. Have your/her attorney work on a QDRO. There is no reason to forfeit a portion of the 401(k) marital property as to taxes just because she/you have bad tax advice.

 

DontBooVote

(901 posts)
2. My sincerest symapthies, flamin. The love of my life had left the church before we met. Her ex MIL
Mon Jan 28, 2019, 05:10 PM
Jan 2019

(mother in-law) returned to town after being away for years, the entirety of our relationship. My love was pressured and then caved to her ex-MIL and returned to the church. I could not follow.

50 years. SMH. I'm so sorry, flamin.

lunatica

(53,410 posts)
3. I hope this can be reversed!
Mon Jan 28, 2019, 05:11 PM
Jan 2019

I can only send you and your daughter hugs and hopes for a solution. It’s terrible to lose people to diseases and drugs that destroy their minds.

Perhaps a miracle will happen where she agrees to help herself.

Polly Hennessey

(6,817 posts)
5. Sad to hear.
Mon Jan 28, 2019, 05:16 PM
Jan 2019

Fifty years is worth something. What must be devastating is that it is a drug that failed your relationship.

harumph

(1,922 posts)
7. Medications can cause personality shift -
Mon Jan 28, 2019, 05:20 PM
Jan 2019

I'm so sorry to hear this. 49 years shows great stability and maturity.
Please continue to rely on your daughter's support and any other
understanding family members during this tough time.

The mental effects of medications are not well appreciated.

flamin lib

(14,559 posts)
13. That was suggested and rebuffed as was any form of counseling;
Mon Jan 28, 2019, 05:42 PM
Jan 2019

couples, individual or church based. She is adamant that she has no side effects.

oasis

(49,490 posts)
16. Perhaps in a setting where the issue is subtlety brought up
Mon Jan 28, 2019, 05:52 PM
Jan 2019

during a conversation about something else. Being indirect might be helpful.

Control-Z

(15,682 posts)
9. She can't take the prescription
Mon Jan 28, 2019, 05:28 PM
Jan 2019

if the doctor doesn't write the Rx for her. Talk to the doctor more and see how he can help. You said she's titrating one Rx down and a new one up. It will take a few months but she will even eventually be completely off the medication causing the personality change. See if the doctor can speed up the process or just hold on until the change is complete. She may be herself again by then?

I'm so sorry about what you're going through.

Control-Z

(15,682 posts)
18. Making sure I understand -
Mon Jan 28, 2019, 06:25 PM
Jan 2019

She won't fill and take the new Rx but is still taking the old Rx? Is the doctor cutting back on the amount she gets (of the old Rx) each month, titrating down?

Srkdqltr

(6,386 posts)
10. I'm so sorry
Mon Jan 28, 2019, 05:38 PM
Jan 2019

I have focal seizures. At first I took some meds. Didn't stop them but they slowed my heart and I passed out. Doctors said stop the meds. After a while I was laughing at something and my husband said it was the first time he heard me laugh since before I started on the meds. I also had double vision from time to time. I decided to do without the pills . I put up with the seizures. I'm sorry your wife is having this prob and cannot see it.

pandr32

(11,644 posts)
11. Sorry for asking, but why a divorce?
Mon Jan 28, 2019, 05:38 PM
Jan 2019

Unless she plans to remarry I don't understand why a divorce should be part of the seperation. Why not an indefinite seperation where you maintain some communication and shared finances you both agree on? I would bet dollars to doughnuts it would sort itself out, especially if you were supportive and stood by her whatever her choices are. She needs a change and some time.
Sometimes many of us hit a crisis and just need time to sort it out. It may be her illness or drugs, or perhaps the realization that she is in her seventies and has a low ceiling over her time left.
Counseling could be beneficial.
Best to you both.

flamin lib

(14,559 posts)
14. This was one of my suggestions but it was rebuffed. She is adamant that we not go through life
Mon Jan 28, 2019, 05:45 PM
Jan 2019

together.

displacedtexan

(15,696 posts)
22. Sad, but it sounds like
Mon Jan 28, 2019, 06:56 PM
Jan 2019

the divorce is her way of maintaining sole control over her life. Does that make sense, considering the medication issue?

pandr32

(11,644 posts)
37. So sorry. Tell her you won't agree
Mon Jan 28, 2019, 09:42 PM
Jan 2019

... until you both get counseling first. 50 years on one hand and a surprise on the other. She must know that her decision affects others and she must not make a mistake that will cause a lot of stress and grief.
Best of luck!

patricia92243

(12,607 posts)
21. When the old meds run out, she won't have any choice but to take the new ones. Hopefully,
Mon Jan 28, 2019, 06:36 PM
Jan 2019

the side effects will stop. So, just be patient and I really believe it will take care of itself.

sagetea

(1,376 posts)
24. Heartbreak is the worst pain...
Mon Jan 28, 2019, 08:29 PM
Jan 2019

Even more so in this situation. I am very sorry, please love yourself through this time and find a sport that you love and just be.

Aho`

sage

mountain grammy

(26,676 posts)
25. I am so sorry
Mon Jan 28, 2019, 08:43 PM
Jan 2019

Seems unbelievable but I’ve seen it too. Good luck to you and please don’t give up hope. Sounds like you raised a great daughter.

yardwork

(61,795 posts)
29. I'm very sorry. Have you talked with her doctor?
Mon Jan 28, 2019, 09:05 PM
Jan 2019

Does her doctor know what is happening in your lives? It sounds like some kind of medical intervention might be warranted. If your wife is not in her "right mind" because of medication, the doctor may be able to talk with her or do something.

ProudLib72

(17,984 posts)
30. I know it won't make the pain go away, but I can relate
Mon Jan 28, 2019, 09:15 PM
Jan 2019

My wife initiated a divorce at the end of June, two weeks before our 11th anniversary. Things had not been going well, but when I tried to discuss the possibility of counseling, she shot me down. And as weird as this sounds, I will swear her radical change in diet precipitated the divorce.

Anyway, I know that 11 years does not compare to your 50! Things get better. They really do. It takes a long time, but you will feel better.

MLAA

(17,375 posts)
31. Sending you kind thoughts.
Mon Jan 28, 2019, 09:19 PM
Jan 2019

What a shock you have had (are having). Keep talking to your friends and family, including us your DU family!

Texasgal

(17,049 posts)
36. Oh man... this is just awful and hurtful
Mon Jan 28, 2019, 09:42 PM
Jan 2019

to read.

I am so very sorry.

My husband of 20 years died two years ago. I would give anything... even a limb to have him with me and going to 50 years.

Many hugs to you, I know it's not much but it's the only way that I can express myself to you and this news.

pnwmom

(109,025 posts)
38. I am so sorry. The drug could definitely have had an effect like that. What a shame.
Mon Jan 28, 2019, 09:46 PM
Jan 2019

Good for your daughter and SIL for supporting you -- it shows the kind of relationship you have with them. (Not every SIL would want an in-law moving in.)

Generic Other

(28,979 posts)
40. I am saddened by your story
Mon Jan 28, 2019, 10:02 PM
Jan 2019

We all hope that our significant other will always be there for us, and after 50 years especially. People lose partners in such painful ways. What you are describing sounds devastating. I sincerely hope you get through this difficult period.

MarvinGardens

(779 posts)
41. This is tragic.
Mon Jan 28, 2019, 11:15 PM
Jan 2019

The wrong drug can really mess a person up. I've been through a divorce, where my wife of 7 years suddenly decided our differences were irreconcilable. Nothing I said or did would cause her to change her mind. I know it was small compared to 50 years, but I remember the heartbreak. You have my full sympathy. I hope you both can work it out.

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