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Miles Archer

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Mon Jan 28, 2019, 09:38 PM Jan 2019

Biden on 2020: "I'm a lot closer than I was before Christmas. We'll make the decision soon."

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NEW: Biden on 2020: "I’m a lot closer than I was before Christmas. We’ll make the decision soon.”

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Biden on 2020: "I'm a lot closer than I was before Christmas. We'll make the decision soon." (Original Post) Miles Archer Jan 2019 OP
Oh right people don't want Biden because he's 'old'...same thing they said about Nancy. nt UniteFightBack Jan 2019 #1
There's a world of difference between POTUS and a member of Congress. Garrett78 Jan 2019 #13
Oh heavens be....78 meanwhile we have the spry orange asshole at 73 or whatever the fuck he is. UniteFightBack Jan 2019 #16
Trump's age is your counter-argument? Garrett78 Jan 2019 #17
Well I don't see you coming back with any good retorts to it. UniteFightBack Jan 2019 #18
I'm waiting for a good retort to my initial reply. Garrett78 Jan 2019 #20
I don't see his age as a problem so I don't feel a need to defend it. He's more active than me for UniteFightBack Jan 2019 #21
Trump is a major league asshole for so many reasons Polybius Jan 2019 #29
Then we're long overdue Polybius Jan 2019 #28
Who says she's old? ificandream Jan 2019 #31
And Bernie, even though, as we saw, he's got more energy & stamina on the campaign trail than InAbLuEsTaTe Jan 2019 #55
Foreign policy and repairing the damage done world wide with our allies no one can Autumn Jan 2019 #2
Biden for Sec of State. But not Prez. chimpymustgo Jan 2019 #8
No, the White House is better IMO because other leaders know they can trust him. Autumn Jan 2019 #9
Except we CAN'T trust Biden. Anita Hill, big bank support. chimpymustgo Jan 2019 #11
Obama trusted him but you don't? Please stop bashing a good Democrat...sorry his record isn't UniteFightBack Jan 2019 #15
Word, he knows all the players. I'll tell you one thing my deplorable co worker said that Biden UniteFightBack Jan 2019 #19
Dems have a Deep Bench for 2020!! aeromanKC Jan 2019 #3
Enough of this drama Joe. For the last couple years you have been saying you could have beaten still_one Jan 2019 #4
This. nt Tipperary Jan 2019 #12
How can we possibly know what he's thinking or feeling? CaliforniaPeggy Jan 2019 #25
Peggy, for two years he has gone out of his way interviewing with people such as Maureen Dowd still_one Jan 2019 #42
+1 violetpastille Jan 2019 #26
Exactly My Thinking Me. Jan 2019 #52
That view is where I am coming toward myself still_one Jan 2019 #58
Yes, you would think. InAbLuEsTaTe Jan 2019 #56
yeah still_one Jan 2019 #59
I'd vote for Biden any day over Kamala Harris Galraedia Jan 2019 #5
I wish he would hurry and announce. Autumn Jan 2019 #7
And We Will Still Stand... LovingA2andMI Jan 2019 #27
No question he would have won. InAbLuEsTaTe Jan 2019 #39
Totally Agree... LovingA2andMI Jan 2019 #44
Here here! Thekaspervote Jan 2019 #40
This combination bdamomma Jan 2019 #53
I would too Raine Jan 2019 #61
Biden 2020 superpatriotman Jan 2019 #6
Go with Joe. How bout that Deplorables...can you follow that one??? nt UniteFightBack Jan 2019 #22
I don't think he'll run Buckeyeblue Jan 2019 #10
IMHO: If he were going to do it, he'd be in it by now. The hesitation means it's not right for him. lindysalsagal Jan 2019 #14
I'm sorry, I'm just not in the mood to vote for an old white guy this time around. scarletwoman Jan 2019 #23
I think saying that sounds terrible. Replace old/white w/ another ethnic/age group and see how UniteFightBack Jan 2019 #32
+1 LongtimeAZDem Jan 2019 #34
Sounds good to me Callado119 Jan 2019 #36
Biden respects our country our party. Bernie is the one with the ego that gets in the way Thekaspervote Jan 2019 #41
I think your argument is silly. How many other ethnic groups beside white have been president? scarletwoman Jan 2019 #45
If it's so silly then go ahead and replace what you wrote with other ethnic groups etc. Go ahead. UniteFightBack Jan 2019 #46
The difference between "white" & any other ethnic group, is that whites are not an oppressed group. scarletwoman Jan 2019 #47
I ain't asking what the difference is ...but thanks for the explanation *eye roll* you go on and UniteFightBack Jan 2019 #48
+1 Glamrock Jan 2019 #51
You must be a reverse racist EffieBlack Jan 2019 #49
Heh. Yeah, guilty as charged, I guess. scarletwoman Jan 2019 #50
Betcha he won't run dalton99a Jan 2019 #24
Just saw a poll tonight where he is way ahead and friggin Bernie Sanders had a nice UniteFightBack Jan 2019 #33
I like him bdamomma Jan 2019 #54
Cmome on Uncle Joe, get in there. BlueTsunami2018 Jan 2019 #30
Go away, Joe. BlueStater Jan 2019 #35
Lol. OK. Nt ecstatic Jan 2019 #37
Love ya, Uncle Joe. Don't do it. shanny Jan 2019 #38
If Biden ends up running against Trump, can we still make fun hughee99 Jan 2019 #43
Yawn EffieBlack Jan 2019 #57
If Joe Biden runs.... quickesst Jan 2019 #60
He's getting closer and closer now . . . ucrdem Jan 2019 #62

Garrett78

(10,721 posts)
13. There's a world of difference between POTUS and a member of Congress.
Mon Jan 28, 2019, 11:19 PM
Jan 2019

Replacing a president is a major process.

The average age of the last 5 Democratic presidents was 48 upon taking office. Biden would be 78! He would shatter the record for oldest president in US history.

Not to mention his history with the Hill-Thomas hearing, which will come up in this Me Too era. And his penchant for gaffes. There's a reason Biden has failed multiple times to come even close to capturing the nomination.

 

UniteFightBack

(8,231 posts)
16. Oh heavens be....78 meanwhile we have the spry orange asshole at 73 or whatever the fuck he is.
Mon Jan 28, 2019, 11:36 PM
Jan 2019

Enough with the Hill Thomas hearings...seriously.

Garrett78

(10,721 posts)
17. Trump's age is your counter-argument?
Mon Jan 28, 2019, 11:55 PM
Jan 2019

Pointing out Trump's age and dismissing Biden's history regarding the Hill-Thomas hearing is not exactly a winning argument.

Garrett78

(10,721 posts)
20. I'm waiting for a good retort to my initial reply.
Tue Jan 29, 2019, 12:04 AM
Jan 2019

You seem to be under the impression that pointing out Trump's age somehow boosts the argument for Biden. You'll have to explain that one, because I don't get it.

 

UniteFightBack

(8,231 posts)
21. I don't see his age as a problem so I don't feel a need to defend it. He's more active than me for
Tue Jan 29, 2019, 12:07 AM
Jan 2019

goodness sake and I'm half his age-ish.

Polybius

(15,528 posts)
29. Trump is a major league asshole for so many reasons
Tue Jan 29, 2019, 01:53 AM
Jan 2019

His age has nothing to do with his scumbaggary.

Polybius

(15,528 posts)
28. Then we're long overdue
Tue Jan 29, 2019, 01:52 AM
Jan 2019

We need an old President. Republicans shouldn't be the only ones electing older people. I'm all for Biden or Hillary in 2020.

ificandream

(9,421 posts)
31. Who says she's old?
Tue Jan 29, 2019, 02:02 AM
Jan 2019

A lot of dimwit Repubs who use her for target practice. She got the last laugh last week.

InAbLuEsTaTe

(24,126 posts)
55. And Bernie, even though, as we saw, he's got more energy & stamina on the campaign trail than
Tue Jan 29, 2019, 11:43 PM
Jan 2019

politicians half his age.

Autumn

(45,120 posts)
2. Foreign policy and repairing the damage done world wide with our allies no one can
Mon Jan 28, 2019, 09:43 PM
Jan 2019

compete with Biden on those issues.

chimpymustgo

(12,774 posts)
11. Except we CAN'T trust Biden. Anita Hill, big bank support.
Mon Jan 28, 2019, 10:29 PM
Jan 2019

I don't trust Biden one bit. But we'll see how it all play out. We're on the same team!

 

UniteFightBack

(8,231 posts)
15. Obama trusted him but you don't? Please stop bashing a good Democrat...sorry his record isn't
Mon Jan 28, 2019, 11:33 PM
Jan 2019

perfect...neither is yours!

 

UniteFightBack

(8,231 posts)
19. Word, he knows all the players. I'll tell you one thing my deplorable co worker said that Biden
Tue Jan 29, 2019, 12:00 AM
Jan 2019

"scared" him if he ran.

aeromanKC

(3,331 posts)
3. Dems have a Deep Bench for 2020!!
Mon Jan 28, 2019, 09:47 PM
Jan 2019

Would love to see either of the Top 5 on the top of the ticket!! (Biden, Harris, Warren, Klochubar, and Brown) Just don't pick an old white guy for the VP this time. Go for Diversity and Youth!!

still_one

(92,525 posts)
4. Enough of this drama Joe. For the last couple years you have been saying you could have beaten
Mon Jan 28, 2019, 09:47 PM
Jan 2019

trump in 2016, and have expressed some remorse by your statements that you didn't run.

Yes, I know you lost someone, but you have been "thinking" about this for two years. You should know by now. In fact you should have a better idea of it than most of the other potential candidates.





CaliforniaPeggy

(149,821 posts)
25. How can we possibly know what he's thinking or feeling?
Tue Jan 29, 2019, 01:17 AM
Jan 2019
His son died.

That is a major loss. I suspect you may not completely realize just how major.

He needs time and introspection.

We need to respect that.

still_one

(92,525 posts)
42. Peggy, for two years he has gone out of his way interviewing with people such as Maureen Dowd
Tue Jan 29, 2019, 05:49 AM
Jan 2019

and others, bringing the subject up himself, and not only expressing remosre about not running in 2016, but saying he was more qualified than anyone else to beat Trump in 2020.


I am not being unsympathetic to his loss, but HE has been bringing this up about running for the last two years. He is also been going to political rallies, and making speeches, and alluding to this.

It is understandable about his decision not to run in 2016, because of the tragedy in his life, but two years later, actually more, because Joe has run previously, he has been thinking about this for decades.

This has nothing do to with his son, except that his son expressed a desire for him to run for President.

If he hadn't been publicly exploiting the run himself for the last two years, I wouldn't have even brought this up

You speculate I may not realize what the loss of a child has, or the impact on one's life. I realize it.

You are also speculating that his apparant hesitation in deciding to run or not is based on the death of his son. That may or may not be the reason at this time.

In my speculation he knows what he is going to do, but if he is truely is having this much problem deciding for whatever reason what to do, then perhaps he shouldn't be running, because making decisions is critical for a President




Me.

(35,454 posts)
52. Exactly My Thinking
Tue Jan 29, 2019, 11:16 PM
Jan 2019

Enough already, you are either in or you're not. And frankly, if you can't say yes at this point, you're more out than in.

LovingA2andMI

(7,006 posts)
27. And We Will Still Stand...
Tue Jan 29, 2019, 01:26 AM
Jan 2019

Strong Kamala. Biden should have ran in 2016. He didn't and that is his fault.

Raine

(30,541 posts)
61. I would too
Wed Jan 30, 2019, 04:33 AM
Jan 2019

but he needs to decide before the early announcers get way ahead of him and it becomes too difficult to catch up.

Buckeyeblue

(5,505 posts)
10. I don't think he'll run
Mon Jan 28, 2019, 10:07 PM
Jan 2019

Just a gut hunch. He knows what it takes to get through a presidential campaign and this one is looking like it's going to start earlier than those before. I think he'll say that he is confident in those getting into the race, that he would run if he wasn't. But he would prefer to do what he can as private citizen Biden to help the next Democratic nominee get elected.

lindysalsagal

(20,794 posts)
14. IMHO: If he were going to do it, he'd be in it by now. The hesitation means it's not right for him.
Mon Jan 28, 2019, 11:24 PM
Jan 2019

I love Joe, but I don't think he's got the teeth for this race, nor do I want to see the gop smear him in their feces.

scarletwoman

(31,893 posts)
23. I'm sorry, I'm just not in the mood to vote for an old white guy this time around.
Tue Jan 29, 2019, 12:52 AM
Jan 2019

Joe, your time is past, let it go.

Btw, my message is the same for Bernie Sanders.

 

UniteFightBack

(8,231 posts)
32. I think saying that sounds terrible. Replace old/white w/ another ethnic/age group and see how
Tue Jan 29, 2019, 02:06 AM
Jan 2019

that sounds.

Callado119

(171 posts)
36. Sounds good to me
Tue Jan 29, 2019, 02:34 AM
Jan 2019

Unless you think 44 out 45 of presidents being white men is good thing and promoting diversity is bad because it hurts the feelings of racist whites...
Bottom line is Biden and Bernie are too damn old, divisive and saddled with decades of baggage. They should just be elder statesmen with the little time they have left and pass the baton to the younger more dynamic candidates in the race. However, I don’t expect either to do that as they both have big egos and little self awareness..

scarletwoman

(31,893 posts)
45. I think your argument is silly. How many other ethnic groups beside white have been president?
Tue Jan 29, 2019, 09:03 PM
Jan 2019

Let's count them, okay?

I get one: Barack Obama, African American.

How many genders beside male?

I get none.

As for age - are Biden and Sanders NOT "old"? Calling them old is not an insult, it's simply an observation of fact.

I'm old, I'm almost 70. In fact, I'm an old white lady.

scarletwoman

(31,893 posts)
47. The difference between "white" & any other ethnic group, is that whites are not an oppressed group.
Tue Jan 29, 2019, 09:45 PM
Jan 2019

Whites make up the dominant culture, they hold all the power. That's why your argument is silly.

I hope you're not going to trot out the absurd "reverse racism" trope to support your argument.

 

UniteFightBack

(8,231 posts)
48. I ain't asking what the difference is ...but thanks for the explanation *eye roll* you go on and
Tue Jan 29, 2019, 10:45 PM
Jan 2019

keep debating with yourself though since you won't do what I asked.

Personally I'm voting for the best candidate who can WIN THE GENERAL ELECTION...no matter what the fuck color, age, height, weight, fashion or other bullshit is in their past. Hows about that?

scarletwoman

(31,893 posts)
50. Heh. Yeah, guilty as charged, I guess.
Tue Jan 29, 2019, 11:07 PM
Jan 2019

Amazing, isn't it - that a person should have to explain the obvious.

Poor old white guys - never catching a break!

 

UniteFightBack

(8,231 posts)
33. Just saw a poll tonight where he is way ahead and friggin Bernie Sanders had a nice
Tue Jan 29, 2019, 02:08 AM
Jan 2019

chunk too with Harris in 3rd at 9%. I do expect her numbers to go up as she gets exposure. I would like Bernie much lower in the pack....much much lower.

bdamomma

(63,962 posts)
54. I like him
Tue Jan 29, 2019, 11:27 PM
Jan 2019

but I wouldn't want him to jerked around. He strikes me as very humble, you can't find humble anymore.

BlueTsunami2018

(3,513 posts)
30. Cmome on Uncle Joe, get in there.
Tue Jan 29, 2019, 01:58 AM
Jan 2019

It’s really too bad he didn’t run last time. I get why he didn’t but it’s still unfortunate.

hughee99

(16,113 posts)
43. If Biden ends up running against Trump, can we still make fun
Tue Jan 29, 2019, 04:03 PM
Jan 2019

Of Trump for his age and military deferments?

quickesst

(6,283 posts)
60. If Joe Biden runs....
Wed Jan 30, 2019, 03:01 AM
Jan 2019

......the hardest decision we will have to make is who we want for vice president. Run Joe run.

ucrdem

(15,512 posts)
62. He's getting closer and closer now . . .
Wed Jan 30, 2019, 05:09 AM
Jan 2019

Just me and Joe
We can keep it between us
Nobody has to know . . .





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