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turbinetree

(24,745 posts)
Tue Jan 29, 2019, 11:18 AM Jan 2019

The Supreme Court may kill Roe v. Wade as soon as this week

The final days of the right to choose are nigh.

IAN MILLHISER
JAN 28, 2019, 4:38 PM

Lawyers representing a Louisiana abortion clinic and at least two physicians filed an application in the Supreme Court on Monday asking the court to halt a Louisiana law that is identical to a Texas law the justices struck down in 2016.

The court is almost certain to deny this application in a 5-4 vote — possibly as soon as tonight. When it does so, it will effectively mark the end of Roe v. Wade.

Yes, the court is very unlikely to hand down an opinion this week which uses the words “Roe v. Wade is overruled.” But these abortion providers filed this application because a federal appeals court openly defied the Supreme Court’s most recent abortion decision. When the court refuses to enforce its own decision, that will send a clear signal to lower court judges throughout the country that they are free to uphold restrictions on abortion.

The case is June Medical Services v. Gee.

Gee involves a Louisiana law requiring “a physician performing or inducing an abortion” to “have active admitting privileges at a hospital that is located not further than thirty miles from the location at which the abortion is performed or induced and that provides obstetrical or gynecological health care services.” If that law sounds familiar, that’s because it is identical, almost word-for-word, to a Texas law that the Supreme Court struck down in Whole Woman’s Health v. Hellerstedt.

https://thinkprogress.org/supreme-court-may-kill-roe-v-this-week-a014778b1db9/

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The smart money, however, will bet that the court will vote along party lines to deny a stay of the Fifth Circuit’s decision. Just last May, while Kennedy was still on the court, the Supreme Court allowed an Arkansas anti-abortion law to take effect despite the fact that a lower court decision upholding that law was also at odds with Whole Woman’s Health. And the court has only grown more anti-abortion since May.

Should the Supreme Court deny a stay in the Gee case, moreover, anti-abortion judges will know exactly what that means. It will be a clear signal that they can emulate the Fifth Circuit and openly defy Supreme Court decisions protecting a right to abortion.

Roe v. Wade will die a quiet death, the Supreme Court won’t even have to kill it.

IN my opinion, the last two right wing Federalist Society Justices on this court should be impeached and or annulled, and "all" of the judges coming through the corrupt Mitch McConnell system should also be removed...........

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The Supreme Court may kill Roe v. Wade as soon as this week (Original Post) turbinetree Jan 2019 OP
In 2019 it will be interesting to see how corrupt the SCOTUS has become. democratisphere Jan 2019 #1
I don't believe SCOTUS would overturn established law FakeNoose Jan 2019 #2
Many of the judges being put up by the republicans do not support res judicata LongtimeAZDem Jan 2019 #27
This message was self-deleted by its author ProudMNDemocrat Jan 2019 #3
Oh, good grief. NurseJackie Jan 2019 #4
Really? ProudMNDemocrat Jan 2019 #5
What you "meant to say" has little resemblance to the ageist bullshit you DID say. NurseJackie Jan 2019 #6
You're much nicer than am NurseJackie TexasBushwhacker Jan 2019 #8
Ditto. cwydro Jan 2019 #17
I know many of such women, Nurse Jackie..... ProudMNDemocrat Jan 2019 #15
And I know an Asian woman who's a terrible driver. NurseJackie Jan 2019 #19
Then edit it. pamela Jan 2019 #10
Looks like it's been edited. It didn't help. NurseJackie Jan 2019 #12
Lol, tone deaf obviously. cwydro Jan 2019 #18
Worse than that. NurseJackie Jan 2019 #23
I completely agree. cwydro Jan 2019 #32
Oh my. Hassin Bin Sober Jan 2019 #11
Okay. NurseJackie Jan 2019 #14
Seriously? EffieBlack Jan 2019 #25
Oh so women vote with their dried up vaginas now. nolabear Jan 2019 #13
Not only was the post offensive, the "excuse" and "justification" offered was offensive... NurseJackie Jan 2019 #22
I shouldn't be shocked any longer but hey, I'm dry. nolabear Jan 2019 #37
"Whose vaginas have dried up." cwydro Jan 2019 #16
WTF?! "...beyond child bearing age whose vaginas have dried up" demmiblue Jan 2019 #21
Good thing we have 3 SC judges with "dried up vaginas" fighting FOR Roe, eh? n/t Blaukraut Jan 2019 #24
Ooh. Boom. cwydro Jan 2019 #33
Excuse me? 2naSalit Jan 2019 #26
Wow. Seriously consider self deleting Freethinker65 Jan 2019 #30
"who are beyond child bearing age whose vaginas have dried up" obamanut2012 Jan 2019 #31
So the Democratic Party ought to be at polling places ProudLib72 Jan 2019 #34
you really should just delete this curlyred Jan 2019 #36
You're correct. Instead... the choice was to double-down. NurseJackie Jan 2019 #38
bet the wingnuts have a hundred cases lined up...non-stop litigation spanone Jan 2019 #7
Duplicate CousinIT Jan 2019 #9
And when Kavanaugh was confirmed I said on here that there would be immediate SweetieD Jan 2019 #20
Some women are anti-abortion for many reasons EffieBlack Jan 2019 #28
I believe it's my personal decision to make FakeNoose Jan 2019 #40
The House should immediately pass a woman's reproductive rights bill Buckeyeblue Jan 2019 #29
Back to this corrupt SCOTUS business. I thought the House was going to investigate Kavanope ProudLib72 Jan 2019 #35
the judges that are getting appointed are a disaster scarytomcat Jan 2019 #39
Not gonna happen Polybius Jan 2019 #41
Wait until the first Zika baby is born in a "Abortion is illegal" state. McCamy Taylor Jan 2019 #42
Still no decision Polybius Jan 2019 #43

FakeNoose

(32,908 posts)
2. I don't believe SCOTUS would overturn established law
Tue Jan 29, 2019, 11:26 AM
Jan 2019

... but if they do this, it would mobilize every non-fundie voter in the US to vote for Democrats in 2020. It would prove how stupid and dangerous these people are to ALL Americans, not just the libs/progressives.

Here's a clue: even the Libertarians are against overturning Roe v. Wade. If they say they aren't, they're lying to throw a bone to the "religious right."



Response to turbinetree (Original post)

ProudMNDemocrat

(16,897 posts)
15. I know many of such women, Nurse Jackie.....
Tue Jan 29, 2019, 12:07 PM
Jan 2019

One of them is my very own sister, who had 2 abortions herself post Roe. Her deep religious views has alienated many of her firends, she judges me,, we differ on many fronts. Religion and politics are taboo subjects.

I will not gloss over that fact that I am acquainted with many women who profess to be Pro-Life, when they are Pro-Birth because they vote time after time for Republicans who oppose programs like Head Start, Heating and Housing Assistance, SNAP, WIC, Planned Parenthood, programs that help the poor move up. Some of those women protest in front of our local PP clinic here that does not have abortion services .

NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
19. And I know an Asian woman who's a terrible driver.
Tue Jan 29, 2019, 12:21 PM
Jan 2019
I will not gloss over that fact that I am acquainted with many women who profess to be Pro-Life,
That's a strawman defense, because NOBODY is suggesting that you do that. But what I can say with great certainty is that being "acquainted with many women who profess to be Pro-Life" really does not justify those ageist comments.

I know many of such women, Nurse Jackie.....
LOL! I'm sure. Fine. And I know an Asian woman who's a terrible driver. She's been in two accidents in as many years. Because I'm "acquainted" with her, and because her driving record is factual, should I be allowed to make public declarations that "Asian women can't drive".

The post was offensive. The "edit" didn't help. And the lame justification/excuse being offered only makes it worse.

NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
12. Looks like it's been edited. It didn't help.
Tue Jan 29, 2019, 12:05 PM
Jan 2019

ORIGINAL:

Except those who are beyond child bearing age whose vaginas have dried up

EDIT:
Except those who are Anti-Abortion who are beyond child bearing age whose vaginas have dried up,


That is some serious ageist, sexist bullshit.
Looks like it's been edited. It didn't help.



NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
23. Worse than that.
Tue Jan 29, 2019, 12:30 PM
Jan 2019

When someone tries to make excuses and justify that type of behavior and attitude... it really lets me know what kind of person they are. That's unacceptable to me.

 

cwydro

(51,308 posts)
32. I completely agree.
Tue Jan 29, 2019, 01:14 PM
Jan 2019

And speaking as a woman, a gay one at that, I’ve never heard of a “dried up vagina.”

Really an ignorant statement.

nolabear

(42,004 posts)
13. Oh so women vote with their dried up vaginas now.
Tue Jan 29, 2019, 12:06 PM
Jan 2019

Buddy, you’d better look again at who’s trying to save our asses in this country and BOW DOWN to those women.

NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
22. Not only was the post offensive, the "excuse" and "justification" offered was offensive...
Tue Jan 29, 2019, 12:28 PM
Jan 2019

... and just made it worse. It really does reveal someone's mindset when they try to self-excuse their inexcusable behavior.

2naSalit

(86,943 posts)
26. Excuse me?
Tue Jan 29, 2019, 12:56 PM
Jan 2019
Except those who are Anti-Abortion who are beyond child bearing age whose vaginas have dried up


Wow, sexist much?

Time for a rude awakening for this one.

SweetieD

(1,660 posts)
20. And when Kavanaugh was confirmed I said on here that there would be immediate
Tue Jan 29, 2019, 12:25 PM
Jan 2019

Cases heard on abortion and it could be overturned. Someone on here said I was being paranoid and it would take years.smdh.

 

EffieBlack

(14,249 posts)
28. Some women are anti-abortion for many reasons
Tue Jan 29, 2019, 12:58 PM
Jan 2019

None of which, I'm sure, have anything to do with their degree of vaginal moisture.

Shame on you for posting such ageist sexist crap.

FakeNoose

(32,908 posts)
40. I believe it's my personal decision to make
Tue Jan 29, 2019, 03:58 PM
Jan 2019

... whether I should be a mother or not, and it's every other woman's personal decision to make. I could be against abortion (maybe even for religious reasons) but I have no right to make somebody else's decision FOR THEM based on MY religion. That's why our laws need to be pro-choice, and for the most part they are pro-choice, thanks to the Roe v. Wade decision.

EffieBlack I don't believe the Supreme Court will get bogged down in this, it's established law now.

Buckeyeblue

(5,505 posts)
29. The House should immediately pass a woman's reproductive rights bill
Tue Jan 29, 2019, 01:02 PM
Jan 2019

The bill should say that a woman's reproductive choices are between her and her medical provider.

ProudLib72

(17,984 posts)
35. Back to this corrupt SCOTUS business. I thought the House was going to investigate Kavanope
Tue Jan 29, 2019, 01:25 PM
Jan 2019

And, if so, does this put pressure on him? Also, suppose abortion was overturned and Kavanope was later impeached; would the decision be called into question?

scarytomcat

(1,706 posts)
39. the judges that are getting appointed are a disaster
Tue Jan 29, 2019, 03:44 PM
Jan 2019

some how we need to get them removed maybe
we can sue and remove the trump administration because the election was fraudulent and everything that came from this fraud should be reversed

Polybius

(15,525 posts)
41. Not gonna happen
Wed Jan 30, 2019, 11:21 PM
Jan 2019

The only way to remove them is to impeach them. We'll never get 67 votes needed to convict for that reason.

McCamy Taylor

(19,240 posts)
42. Wait until the first Zika baby is born in a "Abortion is illegal" state.
Wed Jan 30, 2019, 11:58 PM
Jan 2019

Suddenly the right wing will be like "Why didn't she go to New York for an abortion? How irresponsible! The taxpayer should not pay for her selfishness!"

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