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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsWAPO Fact check: Trump tweets nonsensical figures on illegal immigration
We are not even into February and the cost of illegal immigration so far this year is $18,959,495,168. Cost Friday was $603,331,392. There are at least 25,772,342 illegal aliens, not the 11,000,000 that have been reported for years, in our Country. So ridiculous! DHS
President Trump, in a tweet, Jan. 27, 2019
We often warn readers to be wary of false precision. This presidential tweet is a good example of this.
He describes, to the dollar, the alleged cost of illegal immigration as well as the exact number of undocumented immigrants. But both numbers can only be estimates; there is no actual count of undocumented immigrants, and there is a big dispute over what kind of financial drain, if any, illegal immigration places on the United States.
The president indicates that these figures are from the Department of Homeland Security (DHS), but instead they appear to come from the presidents avid TV-watching. Heres an image of a tally that recently appeared on the right-leaning One America News Network:
Looks rather similar! But its quite possible the president missed an important nuance. The OAN chart refers to total aliens, not illegal aliens. So it appears to be a number for all immigrants, not just illegal immigrants.
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Cost of illegal immigration
If you do the math, Trump estimates that each undocumented immigrant costs the United States $8,545 a year, or more than $220 billion.
The Federation for American Immigration Reform (FAIR), which seeks immigration limits, in 2017 estimated $8,075 per undocumented immigrant (and their children) to come up with an annual estimate of $135 billion, or $116 billion after accounting for economic contributions. (The group assumed 12.5 million undocumented immigrants.)
Trumps numbers are considerably higher than our estimate, said David Ray, a FAIR spokesman.
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Once again, we have an example of the president who probably has access to more information than any other person on Earth latching on to dubious numbers that he saw on television. Compounding this error, he apparently misunderstood one number, assuming aliens meant illegal aliens, and then tweeted it out to the nation as a new, unknown fact.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2019/01/29/president-trump-tweets-nonsensical-figures-illegal-immigration/
I'm sure that Trump fans will accuse WAPO of being "pendantic" and publishing this article as an "attack" on him, because Jeff Bezos hates him for what he says about Amazon, so they go nitpicking at the numbers, and are "Missing the forest for the trees!"
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WAPO Fact check: Trump tweets nonsensical figures on illegal immigration (Original Post)
ehrnst
Jan 2019
OP
Of course, his surrogates defend him as "intending to say the right thing, don't nitpick...
ehrnst
Jan 2019
#7
The Blue Flower
(5,451 posts)1. They should change the headline to "Trump tweets nonsense"
Just run it over and over--save a lot of ink and time.
sheshe2
(84,073 posts)2. Bingo!
Good for WAPO for calling the Orange Thing out on his bullshite!
gratuitous
(82,849 posts)3. Whoa, four pinnochios!
I figured the rating would be "not proven" or "reasonable people can disagree." Pleasantly surprised with Kessler's rating.
murielm99
(30,787 posts)4. He gets his information from television,
when most thinking people have given up on television news. Yeah.
Cha
(298,087 posts)6. Thanks for WaPo FACT CHECK, ehrnst!
ehrnst
(32,640 posts)7. Of course, his surrogates defend him as "intending to say the right thing, don't nitpick...
I dont think the president is sitting there, behind the desk, trying to make up lies. I dont believe that for a second. Has he misspoken on something? Sure. All of us do that. You do it and I do it. And sometimes we get the facts wrong and we say something that later on we realize, we couldve said it better, or it was misrepresented. And so, uh, I think the president is trying to do the best that he can under very difficult circumstances.
https://friendlyatheist.patheos.com/2019/01/30/franklin-graham-refuses-to-acknowledge-any-of-donald-trumps-8158-lies-so-far/?
NewJeffCT
(56,829 posts)10. He's not trying to do his best
he's just cutting and pasting numbers willy-nilly in a way that wouldn't be acceptable for a middle school assignment, let alone the president of the United States.
ehrnst
(32,640 posts)11. His supporters always believe he has the best of intentions, so you just ignore anything
that doesn't support that.
DesertRat
(27,995 posts)8. Thank you for this!