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struggle4progress

(118,379 posts)
Wed Jan 30, 2019, 12:26 PM Jan 2019

Blasts intel chiefs as 'passive and naive'

BY OLIVIA BEAVERS - 01/30/19 09:03 AM EST

... "The Intelligence people seem to be extremely passive and naive when it comes to the dangers of Iran. They are wrong!" Trump tweeted Wednesday morning in a pair of tweets ...

The president, who claimed Iran has recently tested rockets, also mocked the intelligence leaders in his administration, suggesting they "should go back to school."

The two tweets came a day after Director of National Intelligence Dan Coats and CIA Director Gina Haspel offered testimony before the Senate Intelligence Committee that seemed to contradict things the president has said.

Coats testified that the intelligence community found that Iran is not currently seeking to develop its nuclear weapons capabilities, basing his remarks on an intelligence assessment ...

https://thehill.com/policy/national-security/427608-trump-blasts-intel-chiefs-for-wrong-iran-assessment

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Blasts intel chiefs as 'passive and naive' (Original Post) struggle4progress Jan 2019 OP
Tells US spy chiefs: 'Go back to school' struggle4progress Jan 2019 #1
Blasts U.S. intelligence officials struggle4progress Jan 2019 #2
I pray that MF45's constant attacks on the IC MontanaMama Jan 2019 #3
Intel chiefs contradict him on Iran and claims of foreign policy success struggle4progress Jan 2019 #4
ITTMFA Hermit-The-Prog Jan 2019 #5
Intel chiefs break with him struggle4progress Jan 2019 #6
I was disappointed with Dan Coats. He seems reasonably intelligent, and yet ... JustABozoOnThisBus Jan 2019 #8
Disputes his own intelligence chiefs struggle4progress Jan 2019 #7
This seems unusual gratuitous Jan 2019 #9
I'd guess his attack on intel is motivated by his desire to discredit the Russia investigation struggle4progress Jan 2019 #14
Assails intel chiefs struggle4progress Jan 2019 #10
Testimony may 'undermine' ability to declare emergency for wall struggle4progress Jan 2019 #11
Worlds apart on ISIS, Russia, border struggle4progress Jan 2019 #12
Intel chiefs at odds with claims on North Korea, IS and Iran struggle4progress Jan 2019 #13
The media needs to stick with this one...keep asking SayItLoud Jan 2019 #15
The CIA and NSA should release what they have on the Russian Stooge in the White House. sarcasmo Jan 2019 #16
Because Cadet Bonespurs is a stable genius Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Jan 2019 #17

struggle4progress

(118,379 posts)
1. Tells US spy chiefs: 'Go back to school'
Wed Jan 30, 2019, 12:28 PM
Jan 2019

... "Be careful of Iran. Perhaps Intelligence should go back to school!" Mr Trump tweeted.

The testy response came after a US intelligence report said Iran was not making nuclear weapons.

It also said that North Korea remained "unlikely to give up" its weapons stockpiles and production abilities.

National intelligence director Dan Coats and other intelligence chiefs presented the Worldwide Threat Assessment report to the Senate on Tuesday ...

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-47061509

struggle4progress

(118,379 posts)
2. Blasts U.S. intelligence officials
Wed Jan 30, 2019, 12:30 PM
Jan 2019

By John Wagner and
Shane Harris January 30 at 9:20 AM

... In earlier tweets Wednesday, Trump claimed “tremendous progress” in destroying the Islamic State and denuclearizing North Korea, seeking to counter less optimistic assessments by the intelligence officials.

Trump wrote that when he became president, the Islamic State “was out of control in Syria & running rampant.”

“Since then tremendous progress made, especially over last 5 weeks,” Trump wrote. “Caliphate will soon be destroyed, unthinkable two years ago.”

During the Senate hearing, officials warned that the Islamic State, also known as ISIS, was capable of attacking the United States and painted a picture of a still-formidable terrorist organization. Trump previously declared the group defeated and has said he wants to withdraw U.S. troops from Syria as a result ...

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/trump-claims-great-progress-on-isis-north-korea-after-intelligence-officials-present-less-optimistic-view/2019/01/30/e95b74c6-23b7-11e9-90cd-dedb0c92dc17_story.html

MontanaMama

(23,368 posts)
3. I pray that MF45's constant attacks on the IC
Wed Jan 30, 2019, 12:31 PM
Jan 2019

has only succeeded in steeling their resolve to protect this country from him.

struggle4progress

(118,379 posts)
4. Intel chiefs contradict him on Iran and claims of foreign policy success
Wed Jan 30, 2019, 12:33 PM
Jan 2019

By Eli Watkins, CNN
Updated 10:47 AM ET, Wed January 30, 2019

... Trump made no mention of Russia, which was specifically mentioned by Director of National Intelligence Dan Coats on Tuesday as likely to target 2020 elections. Also left unmentioned was a response to intelligence officials' warnings about the threat of climate change ...

Trump was scheduled to receive an intelligence briefing later Wednesday morning.

In announcing last May that the US would withdraw from the Iran nuclear agreement, Trump argued that remaining in the 2015 pact would lead to a nuclear arms race in the Middle East.

But more than eight months later, US intelligence officials testified that there is no indication Iran is currently attempting to develop a nuclear weapon and told lawmakers that Tehran remains in compliance with the agreement despite the US withdrawal ...

https://www.cnn.com/2019/01/30/politics/trump-intel-chiefs-foreign-policy-iran-isis-north-korea/index.html

Hermit-The-Prog

(33,574 posts)
5. ITTMFA
Wed Jan 30, 2019, 12:36 PM
Jan 2019

If not for Russian rubles buying Russiapublicans, impeachment of the treasonous mofo should have begun by the middle of 2017.

Get it started already.

struggle4progress

(118,379 posts)
6. Intel chiefs break with him
Wed Jan 30, 2019, 12:36 PM
Jan 2019

By CAITLIN OPRYSKO
01/30/2019 07:28 AM EST
Updated 01/30/2019 10:46 AM EST

... The attack also marked the latest example of Trump's public feud with the intelligence community. The president has often cast doubt on the official assessment that Russia interfered in the 2016 election to aid his candidacy, and even publicly sided with Russian President Vladimir Putin on the matter.

Director of National Intelligence Dan Coats and CIA Director Gina Haspel both indicated on Tuesday that there is significant daylight between the president and the intelligence community on major issues. They testified that the Islamic State remains a forceful presence in Iraq and Syria, that North Korea is not likely to give up its nuclear weapons, and that Iran is not yet seeking a nuclear weapon.

They also warned about foreign interference in U.S. elections, and declined to classify the migrant crisis on the southern border a security crisis as Trump has previously claimed ...

“I look forward to seeing Kim Jong Un shortly,” <trump> added, referring to his second summit with Kim at the end of next month. “Progress being made-big difference!” ...

https://www.politico.com/story/2019/01/30/trump-national-security-1136433

JustABozoOnThisBus

(23,384 posts)
8. I was disappointed with Dan Coats. He seems reasonably intelligent, and yet ...
Wed Jan 30, 2019, 12:40 PM
Jan 2019

... he can't pronounce "nuclear". He called it "nuke-yew-ler", like some GWB wannabe.

He lost my attention at that point.

struggle4progress

(118,379 posts)
7. Disputes his own intelligence chiefs
Wed Jan 30, 2019, 12:39 PM
Jan 2019

David Jackson, USA TODAY
Published 9:52 a.m. ET Jan. 30, 2019
Updated 11:16 a.m. ET Jan. 30, 2019

... While Trump defended his decision to withdraw the United States from the Iranian nuclear deal – in which the U.S. and allies eased sanctions on Tehran as it gave up the means to make nuclear weapons – the intelligence community said the country continues to live up to its end of the bargain ...

Trump continues to plan a second summit meeting with North Korean leader Kim Jong Un – date and location to be determined – and expresses confidence that Kim is committed to junking his nuclear weapons programs ...

During her Senate testimony, CIA Director Gina Haspel said the evidence shows that North Korea “is committed to developing a long-range nuclear-armed missile that would pose a direct threat to the United States.”

Coats said that, while Kim is expressing "openness" to the idea of eliminating weapons of mass destruction, "we currently assess that North Korea will seek to retain its WMD capabilities, and is unlikely to completely give up its nuclear weapons and production capabilities" ...

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2019/01/30/donald-trump-intelligence-community-iran-north-korea-isis/2719280002/

gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
9. This seems unusual
Wed Jan 30, 2019, 12:41 PM
Jan 2019

There can certainly be differences of opinion about threat ratings or the meaning of developments, but for the president and his intelligence officers to be this publicly at loggerheads should raise some serious questions in the media, shouldn't it? For years now they've been parroting the line that the president's first job is the safety of the American people (it isn't the president's first job is to preserve, protect, and defend the Constitution). Doesn't this kind of open disagreement put the nation's security at risk?

struggle4progress

(118,379 posts)
10. Assails intel chiefs
Wed Jan 30, 2019, 12:41 PM
Jan 2019

Jan. 30, 2019, 11:14 AM EST
By Dartunorro Clark

... The heads of various branches of U.S. intelligence testified on Tuesday about the threats the country faces from foreign powers at the Senate Intelligence Committee's annual worldwide threats hearing. It featured public testimony from CIA director Gina Haspel, FBI director Christopher Wray and Dan Coats, the director of national intelligence ...

During Tuesday's hearing, Coats had rebutted previous statements made by president when he noted that U.S. intelligence agencies believe North Korea is unlikely to give up its nuclear weapons because "its leaders ultimately view nuclear weapons as critical to regime survival."

Coats also refuted Trump's previous claim that ISIS is defeated in Syria. He testified that the group was "nearing" military defeat in Iraq, but has returned to its "guerrilla warfare roots," continues to plot attacks and "still commands thousands of fighters in Iraq and Syria."

Former CIA director John Brennan excoriated the president in a tweet on Wednesday for undermining the assessment of the U.S. intelligence community, calling the president a danger to national security ...

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/white-house/go-back-school-trump-assails-u-s-intel-chiefs-after-n964516

struggle4progress

(118,379 posts)
11. Testimony may 'undermine' ability to declare emergency for wall
Wed Jan 30, 2019, 12:44 PM
Jan 2019

BY JUSTIN WISE - 01/30/19 10:11 AM EST

House Intelligence Committee Chairman Adam Schiff (D-Calif.) said Wednesday that new testimony from top U.S. intelligence officials could "undermine" President Trump's ability to declare a national emergency for constructing a wall along the U.S.-Mexico border.

"The fact that none of the intel chiefs brought up a threat at the southern border as being one of the most pressing threats facing the country, that could be Exhibit A in a challenge to any kind of a declaration of a national emergency,” Schiff said on MSNBC, a day after Director of National Intelligence Dan Coats and CIA Director Gina Haspel testified before the Senate Intelligence Committee about global threats to the U.S.

The two officials discussed issues such as the Islamic State in Iraq and Syria, China and Russia, among other things, during Tuesday's hearing.

Schiff argued that their testimony showed "that none of the intelligence agencies think" there is an "emergency" at the border, adding "both parties don’t think this is an emergency" ...

https://thehill.com/homenews/house/427618-schiff-intel-chiefs-hearing-may-undermine-trumps-ability-to-declare-emergency

struggle4progress

(118,379 posts)
12. Worlds apart on ISIS, Russia, border
Wed Jan 30, 2019, 12:47 PM
Jan 2019

Jan. 29, 2019, 2:42 PM EST
Updated Jan. 30, 2019, 7:21 AM EST
By Ken Dilanian

The Senate Intelligence Committee's annual worldwide threats hearing, featuring public testimony Tuesday from the heads of the CIA, the FBI and other intelligence agencies, seemed at times to be taking place on a different planet than the one President Donald Trump inhabits.

Point by point, the country's top intelligence leaders demolished some of the key national security claims Trump has made since he took office ...

The president cast doubt on whether Russia interfered in the 2016 election. The intelligence experts said the Russians had been so successful they were plotting even more sophisticated efforts in 2020.

Perhaps most strikingly, in hours of discussion of security threats, the intelligence chiefs did not once mention the need for a wall along the southern border, which Trump has portrayed as the single most pressing need facing the country. The written threats assessment made clear that most of the illicit drugs entering the U.S. from the south come through legal ports of entry ...

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/national-security/trump-his-intel-chiefs-are-worlds-apart-isis-russia-border-n964141


struggle4progress

(118,379 posts)
13. Intel chiefs at odds with claims on North Korea, IS and Iran
Wed Jan 30, 2019, 12:50 PM
Jan 2019

Updated Jan 30, 2019 | 11:20 IST | AFP

... In a hearing on global threats at the Senate Intelligence Committee, the country's top spies took issue with Trump's assertion that the Islamic State group has been defeated, and that North Korea can be convinced to forego its nuclear weapons.

They also challenged Trump's claim that Tehran is actively seeking nuclear weapons, the justification Trump gave for withdrawing last year from a multilateral treaty on Iran. And they underscored again that Russia meddled deeply on Trump's behalf in the 2016 presidential election -- which he has repeatedly denied -- and can be expected to do the same in 2020 ...

https://www.timesnownews.com/international/article/us-intel-chiefs-at-odds-with-donald-trump-claims-on-north-korea-is-and-iran/356492

SayItLoud

(1,702 posts)
15. The media needs to stick with this one...keep asking
Wed Jan 30, 2019, 02:09 PM
Jan 2019

Who is tRUMP getting his intel from to counter every American intel and protective agency America has? WHO is it? Simple question for Sarah Huckleberry Sanders...Who is tRUMP getting HIS intel from?

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