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Steve Schmitd on Nicolle Wallace's show: Shultz "is not Jill Stein! He's not Ross Perot!" (Original Post) Miles Archer Jan 2019 OP
Steve Schmidt is a RWNJ...... stonecutter357 Jan 2019 #1
I also never listen to him. LakeArenal Jan 2019 #2
I think DUs love affair with this guy is about to come to a swift end. BannonsLiver Jan 2019 #6
It is about time. Caliman73 Jan 2019 #15
Steve...Stevie...stevester BannonsLiver Jan 2019 #3
He has lost me. madaboutharry Jan 2019 #4
Even though she likes Schmidt, I don't think Wallace is buying it... She seems as upset hlthe2b Jan 2019 #5
Nicole Wallace was on Seth Myers last night along with Rosie O'Donnell LakeArenal Jan 2019 #7
I have been at Schmidt fan for a while...but... CincyDem Jan 2019 #8
When Trump is over BannonsLiver Jan 2019 #11
Wilson has largely promised to do that. Miles Archer Jan 2019 #17
Agreed BannonsLiver Jan 2019 #19
I hope Steve Schmitd is just soaking Howard Schultz for all the consulting $$$ he can grab. fleur-de-lisa Jan 2019 #9
He's gone full circle, in my opinion. He might as well be endorsing Palin for 2020. Miles Archer Jan 2019 #18
Steve Schmidt is a bigger asshole than I ever thought possible lilactime Jan 2019 #10
Although I was happy to see him disavow tRump, watching him today on Nicole Wallace brings me back ReformedGOPer Jan 2019 #12
Nicole Wallace did a good job. especially when he started on the quotes of great americans JI7 Jan 2019 #13
I tried to warn everyone about never Trumpers tenderfoot Jan 2019 #14
+1, been saying they don't like Red Don's form ... They'll take everything else uponit7771 Jan 2019 #22
I am not happy with Schmidt Gothmog Jan 2019 #16
He's dumber than both of them uponit7771 Jan 2019 #20
July 30th? csziggy Jan 2019 #21
Schmidt's only good point is that he hates Trump NastyRiffraff Jan 2019 #23
Schmidt has consistently said he's a conservative DeminPennswoods Jan 2019 #24
No one will want another CEO billionaire with no experience in governance or political experience FloridaBlues Jan 2019 #25
I hope the 30 PIECES OF SILVER were worth it, Steve. bullwinkle428 Jan 2019 #26

BannonsLiver

(16,548 posts)
6. I think DUs love affair with this guy is about to come to a swift end.
Wed Jan 30, 2019, 05:48 PM
Jan 2019

Steve’s gone ‘round the bend, I’m afraid. He’s blathering about 2 empty chairs in Schultz boardroom.

“One for the customer. The other for the employees.”

Caliman73

(11,760 posts)
15. It is about time.
Wed Jan 30, 2019, 06:16 PM
Jan 2019

I can appreciate that people enjoyed him going hard at Trump. He did have some very artful take downs. It seemed however, that people were too willing to jump on the "Schmidt is the most courageous person..." train, forgetting that he was never attacking conservatism. He was attacking Trump for pulling the veneer from conservatism. Trump is greedy, corrupt, and bigoted, which seem to be the central tenets of conservatism. Schmidt never changed, he just wants Trump to stop showing the ugliness and go back to the time where Reagan dressed the ugliness up with the style of a B list actor. Trump is a D list celebrity at best.

madaboutharry

(40,247 posts)
4. He has lost me.
Wed Jan 30, 2019, 05:47 PM
Jan 2019

I appreciated his anti-Trump comments since the election. But Steve Schmidt is not a Democrat and he still believes in right wing political ideals. No doubt Schultz is paying him well.

We shouldn’t be surprised.

LakeArenal

(28,889 posts)
7. Nicole Wallace was on Seth Myers last night along with Rosie O'Donnell
Wed Jan 30, 2019, 05:52 PM
Jan 2019

She and Rosie remain good friends and both fired from the View apparently for disparaging Donald...

CincyDem

(6,419 posts)
8. I have been at Schmidt fan for a while...but...
Wed Jan 30, 2019, 05:55 PM
Jan 2019

I too count today as my “unfriend” day with Steve.

For all his understanding of the American political landscape, his purposeful denial of the our two party reality is beyond me.

The phrase that comes to mind is “never expect a man to understand that for which he is paid to not understand”.

I thought Steve had some standards. Oops.

BannonsLiver

(16,548 posts)
11. When Trump is over
Wed Jan 30, 2019, 06:01 PM
Jan 2019

I always assumed Schmidt and Rick Wilson etc. would return to RWNJ politics and we’d all go back to hating each other. What i didn’t anticipate is the mutation actually occurring DURING the orange anus’ reign. Steve sounded rational for a while, in the early days of Trump, but he’s sounding nuttier than squirrel shit right now.

Miles Archer

(18,837 posts)
17. Wilson has largely promised to do that.
Wed Jan 30, 2019, 06:29 PM
Jan 2019

He's been hit over and over on Twitter to switch parties, each time he returns a curt "no."

Right now, he's a needed voice during the Trump catastrophe. If he returns to his "roots" after this...assuming there is a party for him to return to...that's his business. If he becomes a pro-Republican voice, I'll simply stop listening. My guess is that will take at least several election cycles for that to happen. Ryan is gone, hopefully in 2020 McConnell will be gone as well. Problem is that even if the turtle is voted out, you still have Mulvaney, Meadows and McCarthy straining at the bit to be king of the far-far-far right hill.

If Schultz wakes up and smells his own coffee and we have a two-party election without another Jill Stein to gum up the works, Trump could be gone. The caveat in that is that he will pull every voter suppression trick in the book before Election Day 2020 arrives.

BannonsLiver

(16,548 posts)
19. Agreed
Wed Jan 30, 2019, 06:33 PM
Jan 2019

I’ve never for one minute believed when Trump was over we’ll all lock arms and everyone will become a progressive. There will always be the other side.

fleur-de-lisa

(14,629 posts)
9. I hope Steve Schmitd is just soaking Howard Schultz for all the consulting $$$ he can grab.
Wed Jan 30, 2019, 05:55 PM
Jan 2019

He can't be serious about Schultz as a viable candidate.

Oh, wait, Schmitd tried to give us SARAH PALIN.

Never mind. Carry on.

Miles Archer

(18,837 posts)
18. He's gone full circle, in my opinion. He might as well be endorsing Palin for 2020.
Wed Jan 30, 2019, 06:32 PM
Jan 2019

The Wallace segment was regulatory. He was hit from all sides but it wasn't as if he was defending his position with passion. It was more like he stood firm on ridiculous prepared talking points, such as Schultz "promising he won't be a spoiler," and the sheer ridiculousness of that statement is that he has NO CONTROL over that. It's all in voter perception. The ONLY way for him to NOT be a spoiler is to scrap his plans, because if he drops out before he gets in, he damned sure won't get enough write-in votes to matter.

ReformedGOPer

(478 posts)
12. Although I was happy to see him disavow tRump, watching him today on Nicole Wallace brings me back
Wed Jan 30, 2019, 06:03 PM
Jan 2019

to the days when I disliked him intensely. He is basically trying to get a moderate candidate in the race because his beloved GOP went nutso. No thanks Stevie. We lived through Bernie and Jill, and we can't afford a repeat.

DeminPennswoods

(15,299 posts)
24. Schmidt has consistently said he's a conservative
Wed Jan 30, 2019, 06:51 PM
Jan 2019

But he's a standard issue "country club" conservative, pro-business, low taxes, fewer regulations and not so fixated on wedge issues like abortions. Schmidt does believe in government and governing, though. He did his job trying to get his talking points out there, but Wallace has played that game, too, and she did a decent job pushing back.

Jason Johnson had the best retort, he said he didn't even know any Dems or why any Dems worry about Schultz because he will attract "never Trumpers like you (Schmidt)", not Democratic voters.

Maybe 3 or 4 years ago, someone like Schultz was more in line with the mood in America, but in 2019, he's out of step. Americans don't want more of the same which is basically what Schultz is trying to sell. I think Schultz has 0 charisma and has already showed disdain for everyone not in his income class by his comments on cutting entitlements and not even being able to guess the cost of a box a cereal, something work-a-day families with kids know very well. I expect him to deflate as soon as his book tour (I wouldn't be surprised if his candidacy isn't a ploy to increase sales) is over.

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