Freepers attempt, and fail, to consider U.S. Intel/Trump conflict. No names//links: Safe

Trump vs. the Spy Chiefs: Who's Right?


I trust the CIA as much as I trust the FBI. None.

The glitch in the Iran Treaty....After 10 years....Iran can do anything they want as far as nukes and weapons go.
In the meantime....anyone who thinks they're not forging ahead on their capabilities is a fool.

Don't be surprised if they're "buying" from NK.

President Trump is correct. Next question.

RE: Next question.

Why is he correct and the Spy Chiefs Wrong?

Who’s in charge and who’s the employees? Trump needs to fire them if they want to cross him, our elected president.

FBI = CIA = State = DoJ = IRS = Deep State I cannot come up with anything these folks could possibly say that I would take at face value and believe is true.

Despite the palace intrigue, I suspect the whole “Iran is not a Nuclear Threat” meme stems from the effect that butt-hurt Barry’s leftovers in the IC have from Trump nuking the Iran treaty + anti-Israel NeoCons! They all need to go work for Newsweek!

The evaluation of “threats” is based on conclusions drawn from available facts and personal opinions. Differences in conclusions are most often based on different opinions. President Trump’s opinions are just as valid as anyone elses.


So uh, what do the “spy chiefs” think about the continuing invasion from Mexico and now Central America?They’ve known about this in detail for 40 years. They have massive assets to tell them who and what is coming across our border for at least that long. The notion that truckloads of people and drugs could escape their detection is absurd. The risk that it could also be weapons or nukes is too great to avert their view.
So that means this jerks have tolerated the invasion. They think it’s normal stuff. No problem, Mexico can have the Southwest — long as we gots our Big Jobs in DC, that’s all that matters!
Lemme know when these guys pay attention to something that has dramatically changed my life for the worse: the Third World takeover of the Southwest, leading to illegitimate Leftist governments in all the Southwestern states.
Invasion and takeover is a lot more important then whether Sunni or Shiite Muslims control some run down town in Eastern Syria.

On foreign policy, we are divided not only on means but end. Really. We are divided on means? Of course the peons can haul a few more blocks up the tramp so I can have a bigger pyramid.
We are done broke. Our military is tapped out, stretched thin, and the patience of the American people has snapped. Trump gets it and was elected.
And then let's talk about ends. Other than flying pigs and rainbow excreting unicorns, what end do these "chiefs" think we are aiming for? What? Staying in the long struggle because we enjoy the long struggle? That's a fools errand. The Athenian Naval Empire over the Aegean was brought crashing down around their ears over strategic over-reach. They just had to go and wage a campaign in Syracuse. It was their manifest destiny. Their Navy was destroyed and their empire collapsed.

As long as President Tump follows the old maxim Trust but verify he’ll be alright.

It seems these directors fail to realize they work for the President and the People.
RE: It seems these directors fail to realize they work for the President and the People.
This is NOT the issue the article is trying to address.
The issue is this -— WHOSE ESTIMATION MOST CONFORM TO REALITY?

The spy chiefs are the very worst elements of the Swamp. Not merely domestic, but international reactionary agents, they have been feeding information to the Chief Executives for years that has negatively impacted the US influence in the world, by failing to adequately report growing threats, and by wrongly supporting those movements that have been much more conducive to world disorder.

butt-hurt Barry’s leftovers
It's a lot worse than that. We in DC love our JCPOA. We put our best process forward, engaged and we got it. You can't call it a worthless piece of paper. The whole deepstate empire put it's life and soul into that deal. You can't demand a better deal. There is no better deal. We followed our diplomatic process to the letter and got the best deal that the deep state can get.

You certainly can't have deals renogotiated by an insane amateur like Trump who is innocent of all of the nuance of diplomatic protocol that deep-staters have spent their lives mastering.

War is a very profitable business. There are those who would do anything and everything it takes to initiate or maintain a state of War. Their very livelihood depends on it.

1) Who works for whom?
2) would ANY of this still be an issue if at some time in the last 250 years, someone had destroyed medina, then told the rest of the moslem world “fix your 5h17 or mecca goes too?”

Play nice or ya don’t get to play.

Hard to trust an intel organization that was in the tank for the hildabeast....

KYPD

given the CIC is correct, and that he is regularly attacked and backstabbed by some of these usual suspects,
one wonders to whom the usual suspects actually report.

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It isn’t a question of who is right and who is wrong. It’s who is President and who is not. Trump makes the decisions, and if he wants to go against the recommendations of the Pentagon and the Intelligence community then it’s his prerogative to do so.

Article is fake news. President Trump on Thursday said the media had fabricated a conflict and that the officials were “misquoted.”

Agree most of the office holders are nothing but chair warmers.

The third world takeover of the southwest has spread to Virginia.

They work for Fedzilla. Almost everyone in the District of Corruption is there to protect and feed Fedzilla.

“The third world takeover of the southwest has spread to Virginia”

Great. Your weed blower problems are solved. And all you have to do now is get used to gang warfare in the streets to have that!

Maybe the “Intel Chiefs” will start smelling the coffee when they see whole neighborhoods turned into Barrios. But probably not, they’ll just retreat to gated estates funded by the suckers (us) who have to live with the results of their negligence.

We had whole neighborhoods turn into barrios 10 years ago. It’s been painful to watch.

My vote goes to President Trump.

That deal with Iran was very profitable to some big wigs who are pulling the strings. Iran has a nuclear program and lots of money. There are many nuclear powers around the world today and some would be classified as rogue nations. Why are we so damn sure that Iran does not pose a threat of becoming a nuclear power? I side with my President, period.

Invasion and takeover is a lot more important then whether Sunni or Shiite Muslims control some run down town in Eastern Syria.
worth repeating

1. I agree with you that Trump is the Commander in Chief and gets to decide what he believes is the right foreign policy course.

2. However, I disagree with you regarding the issue of who is right and who is wrong when it comes to the severity of the threat of Iran or North Korea or ISIS.

It is not that I don’t support Trump, it is that I feel he hasn’t done the ground work that his intelligence agents did.

Someone’s estimation is closer to reality our decisions have to be based on the most accurate estimations.


1. I agree with you that Trump
Is the Commander in Chief and gets to decide what he believes is the right foreign policy course.

2. However, I disagree with you regarding the issue of who is right and who is wrong when it comes to the severity of the threat of Iran or North Korea or ISIS.

It is not that I don’t support Trump, it is that I feel he hasn’t done the ground work that his intelligence agents did.

Someone’s estimation is closer to reality our decisions have to be based on the most accurate estimations.

The issue is this -— WHOSE ESTIMATION MOST CONFORM TO REALITY?
No.

The issue is, what strategy will produce the results we as a people require? Conditions on the ground change continuously. Do we want to effect the change or be affected by it? Fighting endless wars keeps us locked into hopeless struggles.

Allowing others to resolve their interminable conflicts protects our resources for a time when they are sorely needed.

The spy chiefs rely on failed systems that do not produce meaningful information. The belief that Iran is not building an atomic arsenal is based on information gathering systems that are fundamentally flawed. The spy chiefs have invested in their worthless systems and cannot get away from them. They are stupid or corrupt or both.

Someone’s estimation is closer to reality our decisions have to be based on the most accurate estimations
The decision will be made by Trump and his reasons for making the decision are entirely up to him. It he wants to ignore his intelligence chiefs and go based on his gut feeling alone then he has the power to do so.

President Trump on Thursday said the media had fabricated a conflict and that the officials were “misquoted.”
The hearing was on TV. They weren't misquoted.

Spy chief: We should put a wire on when conversing with Trump!
We knew Pakistan built a Bomb, NOT!
We knew India built a Bomb, NOT!
He listen to Israel, NOT!

But we sure as hell know about Sadam’s WMDs!

The CIA/FBI are manifestly infested at the high levels with high Clinton/Obama/Soros globalist lackeys. It seems they do not know their “left hands from their right” (Book of Jonah). The Israelis have made it clear that our intelligence apparatus has made serious blunders. I trust Trump’s instincts and his Christian Worldview more than globalist hacks.

We beat Germany and Japan in less than 5 years without said intelligence agencies. Now we can’t beat Afghanistan after 17 years with said intelligence agencies. You tell me?

President Trump won the election. He’s the decider.

There’s not spook in the country who’s been elected to make those decisions anywhere. Just because their butt-hurts because the President doesn’t endorse their analysis as the “correct” one doesn’t mean we need to hear about it.

And what I wanna know, is whether or not the noisy ones are on “the take” from those whom they “successfully” advocate for in DC?

that would make them “lobbyists” and its illegal for “lobbyists” to be on the Federal Payroll.