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OnlinePoker

(5,730 posts)
Sat Feb 2, 2019, 10:04 AM Feb 2019

Major DNA Testing Company Sharing Genetic Data With the FBI

The decision by a prominent consumer DNA-testing company to share data with federal law enforcement means investigators have access to genetic information linked to hundreds of millions of people.

FamilyTreeDNA, an early pioneer of the rapidly growing market for consumer genetic testing, confirmed late Thursday that it has granted the Federal Bureau of Investigation access to its vast trove of nearly 2 million genetic profiles. The arrangement was first reported by BuzzFeed News.

Concerns about unfettered access to genetic information gathered by testing companies have swelled since April, when police used a genealogy website to ensnare a suspect in the decades-old case of the Golden State Killer. But that site, GEDmatch, was open-source, meaning police were able to upload crime-scene DNA data to the site without permission. The latest arrangement marks the first time a commercial testing company has voluntarily given law enforcement access to user data.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2019-02-01/major-dna-testing-company-is-sharing-genetic-data-with-the-fbi
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It's different if the DNA info is open source like GEDmatch, but now everything is going directly to the FBI without warrants. I have no worries, but the ethics of this stinks.

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getagrip_already

(14,974 posts)
6. it's not you, it's your bloodline.....
Sat Feb 2, 2019, 10:15 AM
Feb 2019

If your sister, child, or even a cousin gets tested, so did you. They can find you easily if enough people in your extended family have been tested.

And insurance companies can extrapolate enough health info to refuse to sell you life insurance, or an employer could rate you as a health care cost risk and not employ you.

This is a privacy nightmare that goes way beyond finding criminals.

People all over the country are finding out there father wasn't their biological father (and that person is being id'd), or that they have half siblings they never knew about because of a business trip their father took in the 80's or 90's.

And insurance companies are using dna test results to make policy decisions.

 

PeeJ52

(1,588 posts)
2. They tried to tell us... but we wouldn't listen...
Sat Feb 2, 2019, 10:10 AM
Feb 2019

I think, I think I am, therefore I am, I think.
[Establishment:] Of course you are my bright little star,
I've miles
And miles
Of files
Pretty files of your forefather's fruit
And now to suit our
Great computer,
You're magnetic ink.
I'm more than that, I know I am, at least, I think I must be.
[Inner Man:] There you go man, keep as cool as you can.
Face piles
And piles
Of trials
With smiles.
It riles them to believe
That you perceive
The web they weave
And keep on thinking free.

qanda

(10,422 posts)
3. The problem is that you don't even have to submit your own DNA
Sat Feb 2, 2019, 10:11 AM
Feb 2019

They can use the DNA from a close relative to find you. Of course we want criminals off the street but the privacy concerns are huge.

Chemisse

(30,824 posts)
5. That's exactly the problem.
Sat Feb 2, 2019, 10:14 AM
Feb 2019

People made the decision to take the risk and reveal their own DNA to these companies.

And in the process they revealed so much more.

OnlinePoker

(5,730 posts)
10. It's kind of like the slippery slope with people getting microchips implanted
Sat Feb 2, 2019, 11:19 AM
Feb 2019

Fools are already voluntarily doing it, but how long until it becomes mandatory? There are some places where you can't even pay cash for things (a suburb of Vancouver won't take cash for property taxes, for instance). All your banking and credit card info on your smartphone will make it so much easier. RFID chips in all your products will make checkouts so much more convenient. We're moving into the dystopian future science fiction warned us about. I'm glad I won't be around to see most of it.

 

PeeJ52

(1,588 posts)
11. Why bother with a microchip? We've got our cell phones and we pay them $80 a month
Sat Feb 2, 2019, 11:56 AM
Feb 2019

for the privilege of tracking us...

backtoblue

(11,348 posts)
7. Your DNA is as unique, valuable, and private as you can get
Sat Feb 2, 2019, 10:20 AM
Feb 2019

Thing irony is...we paid for the government to end up with our DNA.

greymattermom

(5,754 posts)
8. So if a relative of yours does something
Sat Feb 2, 2019, 10:26 AM
Feb 2019

they can catch him/her by looking at your DNA. One of my cousins has a son who gets in trouble. If I want to find out what part of Scotland my ancestors lived in, that could result in his arrest. Is that what I want?

customerserviceguy

(25,183 posts)
9. I'm glad to see there is concern here over this
Sat Feb 2, 2019, 11:14 AM
Feb 2019

I quit a genetic genealogy Yahoo group over their attitudes about letting law enforcement go on fishing expeditions in this sort of data.

Also, I suspected FTDNA of colluding with law enforcement for this. GEDmatch does not do it's own testing, you have to have a raw DNA file from a testing company to upload to their database for matching. FTDNA is the only direct-to-consumer DNA company that does testing and matching on the Y chromosome, and since the vast majority of serious cold-case violent crime is committed by males, it makes sense that the FBI would try to get its hands on their data first.

I was adopted, and for four years now, I have been trying to use DNA to find my genetic family. If people are afraid to test, that deprives me of potential matches with which to triangulate who my ancestors are. I'm debating whether to quit FTDNA over this, but I don't want to potentially miss out should a half sibling or half first cousin pick them to test with someday.

Hotler

(11,484 posts)
12. I've been told many times not to talk with the cops....
Sat Feb 2, 2019, 12:11 PM
Feb 2019

unless council is present. I will never hand anyone or company my DNA unless ordered to by a court of law. And you can bet your ass the the DNA companies are selling your DNA to the health insurance and pharmaceutical companies.

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