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Recursion

(56,582 posts)
Mon Feb 4, 2019, 11:13 PM Feb 2019

How austerity caused Brexit (best single piece I've read on Brexit in 3 years)

https://psmag.com/ideas/brexit-how-austerity-and-a-cowardly-ruling-class-brought-down-england

Brexit Britain is an object lesson in how a modern nation fails. It's the last act in a familiar unhappy marriage plot, with ruthless neoliberal economic orthodoxy wedded to the genteel thuggery of old-school conservative entitlement, combining to create something so much weirder, and so much worse, that the result can collapse an entire culture.

So let's remind ourselves what's at stake here. Let's take a hard look at the worst-case, and right now most likely, outcome: a no-deal Brexit. In less than 60 days, Britain has to leave the E.U., and the difference between doing so with a deal and without one is the difference between being kicked out of a plane with and without a parachute. Here's what no-deal Brexit means: it means an immediate and lasting recession. It means massive job losses. It means serious shortages of food and medicines. It means major businesses closing down. It means, ironically, the possible break-up of the United Kingdom, as the Scottish, who didn't vote for Brexit, inevitably demand a second independence referendum. It means new violence along the Irish border. It means Britain losing its cherished place at the top table in the international community after we've definitively demonstrated that just because we once owned a lot of other countries doesn't mean we can be trusted not to trash our own. It means that ordinary people, already reeling from nine years of brutal austerity, will find their lives collapsing, all in service of a rich man's gamble.

...

What Britons actually wanted wasn't Brexit. What we wanted was dignity, self respect, fuck the other guy, and fuck the government. Brexit, like The Wall, is not a real thing at all. It's a mood. A symbol. A story. A promise about power and pride and sovereignty told by swindlers and thugs to frightened children. What people voted for isn't the messy reality but the idea of "taking back control." In fact, it's our leaders who have lost control—of their senses, of their resources, of the plot. And it's the rest of us who are going to pay.

It turns out the real Brexit was in our hearts all along. It's not about Europe. It's about the British ruling class demonstrating the same rancid scorn for the poor as they did for the nations their grandfathers ransacked, using a working-class revolt as a license to loot the future. It's about just how far we're prepared to fuck ourselves over to prove a point. It's about vicious incompetence swaddled in shabby entitlement. It's about austerity, it's about identity, it's about prejudice, and it's about pride.
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How austerity caused Brexit (best single piece I've read on Brexit in 3 years) (Original Post) Recursion Feb 2019 OP
an incredibly powerful read. Thanks for posting NRaleighLiberal Feb 2019 #1
I think it would be more like "How Obstructing Obama caused Donald Trump... marylandblue Feb 2019 #8
This guy talks a lot about global trumpism. Predicted brexit and trump. Hassin Bin Sober Feb 2019 #11
thanks...will give it a view. NRaleighLiberal Feb 2019 #12
That was excellent! Ligyron Feb 2019 #29
He really has it dialed in Hassin Bin Sober Feb 2019 #32
How rightwing billionaires built Fox, bought the GOP, and brought us Trump EndGOPPropaganda Feb 2019 #18
Silly me, I thought the whole charade was about kicking the immigrants out? Blue_Tires Feb 2019 #2
You're guessing wrong Recursion Feb 2019 #4
I guess what confuses the hell out of me is Blue_Tires Feb 2019 #23
Yeah, I've given up on that one Recursion Feb 2019 #25
It has a specific meaning in economics Hassin Bin Sober Feb 2019 #30
You may be confused by the word neoliberal as applied to economics gratuitous Feb 2019 #26
It covers a range from Milton Friedman to Paul Krugman Recursion Feb 2019 #34
This message was self-deleted by its author TubbersUK Feb 2019 #5
Racism is closely tied to economic anxiety IronLionZion Feb 2019 #13
Not always, given how many comfortably wealthy racists there are. Blue_Tires Feb 2019 #22
They're the ones promoting racism to help them preserve wealth IronLionZion Feb 2019 #24
It's as if no one ever read anything about Germany, the rise of fascism, and scapegoating Jews. Hassin Bin Sober Feb 2019 #33
It is covered zipplewrath Feb 2019 #27
Brilliantly written. Brutal truth. MaryMagdaline Feb 2019 #3
"A promise about power and pride and sovereignty told by swindlers and thugs to frightened children" SunSeeker Feb 2019 #6
It sums up Trump's "rise to power"... SergeStorms Feb 2019 #19
Yes, all that propaganda turned about 30% of Americans into raving right wing lunatics. SunSeeker Feb 2019 #20
Really good piece. Thx. JDC Feb 2019 #7
Thanks for this post. Lots of clarifying info for me. iluvtennis Feb 2019 #9
All Thanks to Pompous Prick Nigel Farage and His Idiot Fellow Traveler, Trump. DoctorJoJo Feb 2019 #10
for later reading tnlurker Feb 2019 #14
as much is Angela Merkel is acting like Joan of arc DonCoquixote Feb 2019 #15
Bookmarked K&R FakeNoose Feb 2019 #16
Thank you. N/T Geechie Feb 2019 #17
great article, thank you for posting ProfessorPlum Feb 2019 #21
Here's another article about the Collective Madness Behind the Latest Brexit Plan peggysue2 Feb 2019 #28
I could not explain it better. Myrddin Feb 2019 #31

NRaleighLiberal

(60,036 posts)
1. an incredibly powerful read. Thanks for posting
Mon Feb 4, 2019, 11:23 PM
Feb 2019

For the US - would a parallel article with the same sort of tenor be "How Russia and Lies and Citizens United and Ignorance and Racism caused Trump" (probably needs more nouns)

marylandblue

(12,344 posts)
8. I think it would be more like "How Obstructing Obama caused Donald Trump...
Tue Feb 5, 2019, 12:14 AM
Feb 2019

... but fortunately we aren't as screwed as the UK. Yet."

Blue_Tires

(55,445 posts)
2. Silly me, I thought the whole charade was about kicking the immigrants out?
Mon Feb 4, 2019, 11:23 PM
Feb 2019

Because that's all they talked about during the lead-up...

I'm guessing this is another flavor of that tired "It's not racism it's economic anxieties!" -talking point? Because the author has lost the plot here (although she gets a bonus point for pinning this fiasco on that old boogeyman of the left, 'neoliberalism')

And given the biblical clusterfuck this whole stunt has been, it's crystal clear that this had Jack Fuckin' Shit to do with the economy or "Taking back control," whatever the hell that means.

I could go on but what would be the point? It's obvious that Corbyn and the horseshoe left have a bigger boner for ditching the EU than Farage ever did... They wanted this shit so they can deal with it

Blue_Tires

(55,445 posts)
23. I guess what confuses the hell out of me is
Tue Feb 5, 2019, 04:55 PM
Feb 2019

Why this author insists on labeling longtime established conservative policies as "neoliberal" ones

Hassin Bin Sober

(26,358 posts)
30. It has a specific meaning in economics
Tue Feb 5, 2019, 10:56 PM
Feb 2019
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neoliberalism

Neoliberalism or neo-liberalism[1] is the 20th-century resurgence of 19th-century ideas associated with laissez-faire economic liberalism and free market capitalism.[2] [3] Those ideas include economic liberalization policies such as privatization, austerity, deregulation, free trade[4] and reductions in government spending in order to increase the role of the private sector in the economy and society.[12] These market-based ideas and the policies they inspired constitute a paradigm shift away from the post-war Keynesian consensus which lasted from 1945 to 1980.[13][14]

gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
26. You may be confused by the word neoliberal as applied to economics
Tue Feb 5, 2019, 05:25 PM
Feb 2019

Neoliberalism in economics is "free market" and "individualism" writ exceedingly large, its preferred method of influencing economics arrogated to the persons and corporate interests with the most money. Government influence on economics is abhorred, except to the extent it provides a legal and regulatory framework for transferring the wealth created by labor to the upper reaches of the economic strata.

Recursion

(56,582 posts)
34. It covers a range from Milton Friedman to Paul Krugman
Wed Feb 6, 2019, 05:55 AM
Feb 2019

So it's not terribly useful as a description. To the extent people like Krugman or Paul Volcker or Abhijeet Bannerjee are neoliberals, so am I.

Response to Blue_Tires (Reply #2)

IronLionZion

(45,655 posts)
13. Racism is closely tied to economic anxiety
Tue Feb 5, 2019, 12:30 AM
Feb 2019

Wealthy people screw over poor people and convince them to blame immigrants. The article is a good long read and worth reading. The author does bring up the many parallels to Trump's wall and what people thought they were voting for vs what they got.

Screwing people tends to bring out the worst in them. Hurt people hurt people. Conservatives love using apocalyptic war language because it mentally justifies doing terrible things that no rational human being would ever agree to in a peaceful prosperous time.

IronLionZion

(45,655 posts)
24. They're the ones promoting racism to help them preserve wealth
Tue Feb 5, 2019, 05:02 PM
Feb 2019

Most wealthy like cheap immigrant labor. They would just prefer if their native born citizens saw immigrants as a competitive threat for jobs as a way to lower wages/benefits and avoid collective bargaining. They use racism as a tool to benefit them financially.

zipplewrath

(16,646 posts)
27. It is covered
Tue Feb 5, 2019, 06:05 PM
Feb 2019

First of all in the actual article, "neoliberalism" is rarely mentioned. But furthermore, he gets to this point:

Racism and xenophobia run naked and screaming right through the Brexit mood. In the two years since the vote, racists and bigots have only gotten braver, as the referendum result was interpreted as a license to perpetuate prejudice; reported incidents of hate crime have more than doubled, from attacks on mosques to migrant families' letterboxes clanging with missives calling them scum and telling them to go home, when they had previously been under the impression that this was their home. So had many of us non-migrant Britons, who woke up in June of 2016, as Americans did five months later, in a different country from the one we'd always thought we were living in.

SunSeeker

(51,800 posts)
6. "A promise about power and pride and sovereignty told by swindlers and thugs to frightened children"
Tue Feb 5, 2019, 12:01 AM
Feb 2019

That about sums it up. Sums up the wall as well.

SergeStorms

(19,205 posts)
19. It sums up Trump's "rise to power"...
Tue Feb 5, 2019, 03:18 AM
Feb 2019

precisely as well. He was sold to frightened children in the U.S. Foreigners....the bogeymen/women/children that are scaring the bejebus out of people who actually believe there was a "good old days" to return to. I lived through that era, and I never considered them that good at all. Post World War II was a time of plenty, yes, but the price that was paid and the lives that were lost to attain those "halcyon days" were far too great a price to pay. Those "Halcyon Days" didn't extend themselves to all Americans, as I'll state later on.

The delivery system used to deliver both Brexit and Trump was statistics. Algorithms were designed to twist people's emotions into pretzels with their weaponized language. Cambridge Analytica, and other such companies, were hired by wealthy Americans (code named "Mercer" ) and spearheaded by Steve Bannon in both Brexit and the Trump Coup. They carefully designed language that would transform normal people into raving racist lunatics who were spurred by blatantly untrue catch-phrases that could easily be remembered by the proletariat. "Take back control" (like they were ever control in the first place) and "Make America Great Again". America may have been great for some, but anyone whose skin wasn't lily white can't describe those "great times" with any words or phrases that compare to the answers provided by privileged whites. Blacks, Hispanics, Asians and several other ethnic groups were left behind, and never got to share in the "peace dividend", or the "Great Society" or any other number of catchy phrases designed to keep Americans numb and docile. Minorities in America were anything but numb and docile, and the Civil Rights movement started in earnest behind the leadership of Dr. Martin Luther King and others. They were demanding to be treated as equal! Imagine that, wanting to be equal with their other American citizens. We're still working on that almost 70 years later.

Enter Russia, whose goal has always been to throw a monkey wrench into the economies and democracies of any freedom loving country. They had the resources of their entire intelligence community and a building adjacent to the Kremlin stuffed to the rafters with hackers, whose only job was to create false troll identities to sow discord in both the U.K. and the U.S.A. They provided enough fuel (lies) to get both Yanks and Brits arguing with their fellow country-folk to the point of violence, and even murder. They did their job very well. Oh, and don't forget the obscenely wealthy American (code named "Mercer" ) and the Svengali of the white supremacist movement, John Bolton, who were supplying their data mining companies with enough money and mission critical direction to achieve their desired effects; the U.K. leaving the E.U. and the disastrous placement of Donald Trump in the White House.

The honest, intelligent and law abiding citizens of their respective countries never stood a chance. Evil people took their revenge on honest, hard working Brits and Yanks. Revenge for denying them a chance at a few more billion pounds or dollars that they seriously don't need, and - almost amusingly so - just to see if they could do it. Really.

SunSeeker

(51,800 posts)
20. Yes, all that propaganda turned about 30% of Americans into raving right wing lunatics.
Tue Feb 5, 2019, 04:15 AM
Feb 2019

Sadly, many of them are my relatives. It has made large family gatherings impossible to endure.

DonCoquixote

(13,616 posts)
15. as much is Angela Merkel is acting like Joan of arc
Tue Feb 5, 2019, 12:45 AM
Feb 2019

trying to save the European Union, the fact is it is her austerity policies but did so much damage to the idea of the EU. Yes, the UK will always deserve a bit more mocking for actually swallowing a Trump idea, but Angela knows who started souring Europeans on the idea of a union. It happened long before she tried to crucify the Greeks. This also goes for Macron. Yes the Yellowjackets are probably being paid in rubles, but that does not hide the fact that he was very eager to try and ditch the social programs that were not only making Europeans strong, but that were actively dispelling the myths of austerity because the EU was more productive than America.

PS: if England's actions wind up bringing back "the troubles": I do not want to hear it. The EU had actually given your nation a better future, if only because it curbed your tendency to treat your Celtic neighbors like crap. Mark my words, watch Russia offer to be England's big brother and partner, and watch them accept. Then the Chinese will just sit back, and watch Europe finally go ahead and destroy itself.

peggysue2

(10,850 posts)
28. Here's another article about the Collective Madness Behind the Latest Brexit Plan
Tue Feb 5, 2019, 06:25 PM
Feb 2019

I picked this up over at TPM this morning and found myself shaking my head repeatedly. Because this is self-inflicted. A sentence in the piece popped out:

One Brexit supporter interviewed on the street by the BBC about warnings from retailers over supply chains insisted that it would “do the country good” to go without food.

Really? Going without food is a good thing.

That's some fairytale! Talk about diving down the rabbit hole.

What struck me is how familiar this sort of nonsense sounds. Very much like the Trumpster trying to convince people that large swaths of Federal workers supported his 'principled' Shutdown. Meanwhile there were stories galore of people fearing they'd lose their homes, crying because of no food for the kids or money for healthcare, utilities, gas for the car. But the Fantastist-in-Chief would have us believe that all was good and well. In the same way these Parliamentarians are pretending there's an easy way out or anything resembling normal if Brexit, particularly No-Deal/Hard Brexit occurs. They're talking about evacuating the Queen, for God's sake, instituting martial law.

We've all gone nutter.


https://www.washingtonpost.com/outlook/the-collective-madness-behind-britains-latest-brexit-plan/2019/01/31/48d4d67e-2578-11e9-81fd-b7b05d5bed90_story.html?utm_term=.a782febee40a

Myrddin

(327 posts)
31. I could not explain it better.
Tue Feb 5, 2019, 11:40 PM
Feb 2019

Mass suicide because, the suicidals want everyone to commit suicide, just to spite the one who want to live.

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