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ffr

(22,681 posts)
Tue Feb 5, 2019, 11:48 AM Feb 2019

Mike Pence Likely Implicated In Trump's SDNY Criminal Charges



Donald Trump’s inauguration committee has been accused of money laundering and making false statements in a subpoena from prosecutors with the Southern District of New York (SDNY). And it appears that both the president and the vice president could soon be facing criminal charges as a result.

CNN’s Shimon Prokupecz reported on Twitter that on the cover of the subpoena, prosecutors alleged that the committee partook in “conspiracy against the US, false statements, mail fraud, wire fraud, money laundering, inaugural committee disclosure violations, and laws prohibiting contributions by foreign nations and contributions in the name of another person.”


These are the charges that the SDNY is planning against Donald Trump and his family. But others in Trump’s inner circle — including Mike Pence — are likely to be charged also. - PoliticusUSA

Lock them up!
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Mike Pence Likely Implicated In Trump's SDNY Criminal Charges (Original Post) ffr Feb 2019 OP
Good, good, good. I, for one, can't wait for the hammer to fall. Firestorm49 Feb 2019 #1
Kickin' with Faux pas Feb 2019 #2
mike pense is facing his spiro agnew moment Merlot Feb 2019 #3
Christie is the old kind of dirty republican, who blackmails (GW Bridgegate) ffr Feb 2019 #7
Christie Is Also A Liar Me. Feb 2019 #13
Yeah but, aren't they all liars? watoos Feb 2019 #35
He's on with Andrea Mitchell right now. Mr.Bill Feb 2019 #50
Same Here Me. Feb 2019 #65
I don't know. Mr.Bill Feb 2019 #68
There's no getting around him..... OnDoutside Feb 2019 #79
Yeah, big time not fooled Feb 2019 #83
Doncha Know Me. Feb 2019 #94
Now who was in charge of Trump's transition committee? Botany Feb 2019 #4
Hmmm, dunno. Can't remember that loyal soldier's name either. ffr Feb 2019 #16
The same person who was told that Gen. Flynn had had numerous contacts w/Russian... Botany Feb 2019 #25
I thought it was Chris Christie TrogL Feb 2019 #56
RICK GATES: NOW COOPERATING WITH MULLER bonniebgood Feb 2019 #22
Sorry... SkyDaddy7 Feb 2019 #49
Rick Gates... SkyDaddy7 Feb 2019 #48
He's in it up to his GI Joe action hero haircut. marble falls Feb 2019 #5
Got to get the sequence right exboyfil Feb 2019 #6
Others in Trump's inner circle--including Mike Pence--are likely to be charged peggysue2 Feb 2019 #8
Gets better because.... safeinOhio Feb 2019 #11
Oh, Yeah! peggysue2 Feb 2019 #41
Made in China, no doubt, under one of Ivanka's brand names. Orange is the new black, Ivanka honey. Hekate Feb 2019 #70
LOL!! peggysue2 Feb 2019 #72
Pence has always been shady, that is the only kind of person Trumpy likes.... FM123 Feb 2019 #9
Precisely... Harker Feb 2019 #24
"Inaccurate facts"? czarjak Feb 2019 #55
I knew he was in it up to his eyeballs! 2naSalit Feb 2019 #10
Filthy, dirty, rotten scoundrels. Gangsters. lindysalsagal Feb 2019 #12
Speaking of Dirty Rotten Scoundrels... Zoonart Feb 2019 #61
I love SDNY's timing malaise Feb 2019 #14
Is something of importance happening today? ProudLib72 Feb 2019 #17
ROFL malaise Feb 2019 #19
Oh, they're good Hekate Feb 2019 #71
It's all coming to a head FakeNoose Feb 2019 #15
Trump may after all get the reality soap opera ratings he craves. ffr Feb 2019 #18
If you're old enough to remember the Watergate hearings (like I am) FakeNoose Feb 2019 #26
Weren't the televised hearings instrumental in changing support for Nixon? Lonestarblue Feb 2019 #51
It was the tapes that finally made his die hard fans change their minds. BigmanPigman Feb 2019 #82
I remember watching the Watergate hearings. I was in my early 20s, a stay at home mom Grammy23 Feb 2019 #59
You're only a little younger than I; I was glued to the tv as the hearings bounced off the satellite Hekate Feb 2019 #73
You forgot Princess Ivanka. watoos Feb 2019 #36
+1,000,000 - Easily as dirty as Jared. dchill Feb 2019 #45
Either that or he is incredibly stupid (or both). triron Feb 2019 #20
PoliticusUSA is not a good source. manor321 Feb 2019 #21
yeah, i don't see a lot of references in this article n/t garybeck Feb 2019 #88
IF SO. SAY HELLOR TO PRESIDENT "NANCY". bonniebgood Feb 2019 #23
📣📣YES YES YES!! Duppers Feb 2019 #29
It's about time we had a mom/grandmother as POTUS. JaneQPublic Feb 2019 #30
President Turbineguy Feb 2019 #27
We are thinking alike! nt SCVDem Feb 2019 #34
Yes, it sure does. n/t happybird Feb 2019 #76
I really thought that Pence had insulated himself on the Russian matter. Beakybird Feb 2019 #28
SO . . . if we eliminate BOTH of them then NANCY is the President. Make it happen!!!!!!! pdsimdars Feb 2019 #31
Nancy Pelosi is inching ever closer to the doors of the Oval Office. democratisphere Feb 2019 #32
I would give anything to see both scoundrels drummed out on the same day so that President Pelosi Tanuki Feb 2019 #47
Doesn't have to be the same day. eggplant Feb 2019 #84
I KNEW it'd only be a matter of time. Duppers Feb 2019 #33
I hope mommy can visit daddy in jail. watoos Feb 2019 #37
G O T E A M ! ! ! Fuzzpope Feb 2019 #38
Pentecostal pence gademocrat7 Feb 2019 #39
Hope it's Penitentiary Pence! Blue Owl Feb 2019 #66
As is often the case, PoliticsUSA is getting ahead of itself. onenote Feb 2019 #40
thanks for the reality check... dhill926 Feb 2019 #42
I was with you up until... kag Feb 2019 #86
There is zero chance that trump and pence leave office simultaneously. onenote Feb 2019 #91
No argument. kag Feb 2019 #93
This is a ***claim*** by a ***blog***, folks... Not journalism zaj Feb 2019 #43
Yes. And thank you, zaj. n/t pnwmom Feb 2019 #74
ding ding ding! garybeck Feb 2019 #90
Make it so!!! calimary Feb 2019 #44
Whatever, you guys. It's still fun to think about !! donkeypoofed Feb 2019 #46
Notice who they trot out as spokesman for transition apologist. gordianot Feb 2019 #52
Still speculative at this point. Tommy_Carcetti Feb 2019 #53
Good. He's even more odious than Trump. GoCubsGo Feb 2019 #54
President PELOSI! UTUSN Feb 2019 #57
Obviously dirty. Otherwise, Manafort would not have picked him. Sneederbunk Feb 2019 #58
That would be Christmas and the Fourth all wrapped up Blue_playwright Feb 2019 #60
That would be awesome! The Velveteen Ocelot Feb 2019 #62
"Pesident Pelosi, please pick up the nearest courtesy telephone. President Pelosi." tanyev Feb 2019 #63
Best news I've read in awhile. Hope this plays out and Pence is implicated. Mrs. Overall Feb 2019 #64
Yes, Yes, YES! Get that sanctimonious bastard! Hekate Feb 2019 #67
Best news of the day! BlueJac Feb 2019 #69
Except it isn't news. The tweet about the subpoena is from an actual journalist BUT pnwmom Feb 2019 #75
So here is what is going to happen, ... aggiesal Feb 2019 #77
Can you imagine Mike Pence in prison? Somebody might want to be his *gasp* "boyfriend." tclambert Feb 2019 #78
Please let this be true and let it happen soon! blueinredohio Feb 2019 #80
COME UP, PENCE! OriginalGeek Feb 2019 #81
President Pelosi? coeur_de_lion Feb 2019 #85
He is a Russian asset. nt Baltimike Feb 2019 #87
what is sdny? AllaN01Bear Feb 2019 #89
Southern District of New York onenote Feb 2019 #92
"Madam President Pelosi" yuiyoshida Feb 2019 #95
He is BigOleDummy Feb 2019 #96
we may have a chance for a President Pelosi!! onetexan Feb 2019 #97
K&R Scurrilous Feb 2019 #98

Merlot

(9,696 posts)
3. mike pense is facing his spiro agnew moment
Tue Feb 5, 2019, 12:01 PM
Feb 2019

I can't wait to see pense go down. He's much more dangerous than trumpft.

At least christie isn't a religious fanatic.

ffr

(22,681 posts)
7. Christie is the old kind of dirty republican, who blackmails (GW Bridgegate)
Tue Feb 5, 2019, 12:10 PM
Feb 2019

Pence is the new kind of lying, holier than thou new kind of republican. And just wait for Mueller to bring down the obstruction charges for Pence's role in knowing, planning, or otherwise being in on the firing of James Comey to stop the Russia investigation.

The FBI is going to need more arresting agents when this mass bust goes down. It'll be like D-day.

Me.

(35,454 posts)
13. Christie Is Also A Liar
Tue Feb 5, 2019, 12:17 PM
Feb 2019

His book tour/giving Trump a pass with so-called 'reasonable' explanations, has been a disgrace. I wonder if as a former prosecutor he should've reported the crime if he did actually know Trump wanted/ intended to pocket the inaugural money.

Mr.Bill

(24,369 posts)
50. He's on with Andrea Mitchell right now.
Tue Feb 5, 2019, 01:33 PM
Feb 2019

I'm getting a little tired of everyone on MSNBC kissing this criminals ass while he sells his book.

not fooled

(5,807 posts)
83. Yeah, big time
Tue Feb 5, 2019, 06:23 PM
Feb 2019

and it annoys me no end when these teevee hosts give him airtime to bloviate yet never ask him how he feels walking around free while his minions got sent up the river covering for his worthless ass in Bridgegate, which he undoubtedly knew about at a minimum but probably planned and directed.


Botany

(70,654 posts)
25. The same person who was told that Gen. Flynn had had numerous contacts w/Russian...
Tue Feb 5, 2019, 12:29 PM
Feb 2019

... ambassador Sergey Kislyak.

exboyfil

(17,865 posts)
6. Got to get the sequence right
Tue Feb 5, 2019, 12:06 PM
Feb 2019

Pence forced to resign.

Trump strokes out before he has a chance to issue any pardons or get a replacement confirmed.

peggysue2

(10,853 posts)
8. Others in Trump's inner circle--including Mike Pence--are likely to be charged
Tue Feb 5, 2019, 12:10 PM
Feb 2019
This makes me very happy!

Hekate

(91,025 posts)
70. Made in China, no doubt, under one of Ivanka's brand names. Orange is the new black, Ivanka honey.
Tue Feb 5, 2019, 02:28 PM
Feb 2019

Enjoy your stay.

FM123

(10,054 posts)
9. Pence has always been shady, that is the only kind of person Trumpy likes....
Tue Feb 5, 2019, 12:12 PM
Feb 2019

According to 1990 campaign finance records, Pence used $12,867 from his campaign account for personal expenses. That's the equivalent of about $23,700 in 2016.

The payouts included seven $992 mortgage payments and seven of his wife's $222 car payments. More cash went to buy household groceries, pay off Pence's credit cards and even cover the costs of participating in golf tournaments.

https://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/mike-pence-13k-campaign-funds-mortgage-golf-fees-article-1.2714118

FakeNoose

(32,917 posts)
26. If you're old enough to remember the Watergate hearings (like I am)
Tue Feb 5, 2019, 12:31 PM
Feb 2019

...then you probably know that those hearings were on TV every weekday for more than a year, and America tuned in. It had very high ratings including most of us baby boomers, we were still in school or in our early 20's. I don't think I missed a day of Watergate.

Lonestarblue

(10,167 posts)
51. Weren't the televised hearings instrumental in changing support for Nixon?
Tue Feb 5, 2019, 01:36 PM
Feb 2019

When Trump supporters see televised hearings day after day detailing the crimes committed by Trump the crime boss and his family, along with some members of his campaign and administration, will they finally stop worshipping their idol? Will Senate Republicans continue stonewalling and refuse to do anything about Trump? Interesting days ahead! I’m just ready for hearings to start.

BigmanPigman

(51,660 posts)
82. It was the tapes that finally made his die hard fans change their minds.
Tue Feb 5, 2019, 06:20 PM
Feb 2019

Until the tapes his cult still loved him throughout the hearings. When the tapes came out everything changed. Jill Winebanks said the tapes were crucial in changing the minds of the US public and they pressured the GOP Senate to impeach him finally.

Grammy23

(5,815 posts)
59. I remember watching the Watergate hearings. I was in my early 20s, a stay at home mom
Tue Feb 5, 2019, 01:52 PM
Feb 2019

at the time. The hearing pre-empted soap operas, as I recall. Even though I was a soap fan, the hearings were MUST SEE TV. And I was not even politically “aware” back then, but had the good sense to recognize that it was huge news. So I watched and will watch again if it comes to that with tRump. I am retired now so I have plenty of time to watch every glorious moment of tRump’s decent into hell.

Hekate

(91,025 posts)
73. You're only a little younger than I; I was glued to the tv as the hearings bounced off the satellite
Tue Feb 5, 2019, 02:58 PM
Feb 2019

I was able to see them in real time in Honolulu, thanks to the new satellite technology. Damnation I hated Dick Nixon and cheered his downfall.





Beakybird

(3,334 posts)
28. I really thought that Pence had insulated himself on the Russian matter.
Tue Feb 5, 2019, 12:37 PM
Feb 2019

But he headed this committee which was steeped in 10s of millions of dollars of corruption. Good news.

democratisphere

(17,235 posts)
32. Nancy Pelosi is inching ever closer to the doors of the Oval Office.
Tue Feb 5, 2019, 12:40 PM
Feb 2019

Not even jeebus can save mikey now.

Tanuki

(14,931 posts)
47. I would give anything to see both scoundrels drummed out on the same day so that President Pelosi
Tue Feb 5, 2019, 01:28 PM
Feb 2019

can put things right. Help us, Obi-wan Pelosi!

eggplant

(3,919 posts)
84. Doesn't have to be the same day.
Tue Feb 5, 2019, 06:51 PM
Feb 2019

A replacement VP requires majorities in both the House and Senate. If Donnie Two-Scoops goes before that happens (and what are the odds that the House would vote to confirm???) ... then Madam Speaker is next in line.

Duppers

(28,134 posts)
33. I KNEW it'd only be a matter of time.
Tue Feb 5, 2019, 12:41 PM
Feb 2019

I kept telling the "But-Pence" crowd that Pence is involved and going down too.



"Madame President"! Just ❤ this.

onenote

(42,835 posts)
40. As is often the case, PoliticsUSA is getting ahead of itself.
Tue Feb 5, 2019, 01:09 PM
Feb 2019

PoliticsUSA assumes, without any actual evidence, that the document subpoena directed to the Inaugural Committee foreshadows indictments of Trump and his family as well as of Pence. But that's a leap. Nothing in the subpoena indicates any direct involvement by Pence in the inaugural committee activities under investigation. Pence wasn't on the committee and no request for documents that might be in his possession was made.

The fact that PoliticsUSA thinks this moves Nancy Pelosi closer to becoming President is a pretty good indication of how they're thinking is influenced more by what they want than by what is likely. There is zero chance that Pelosi becomes President no matter what happens relating to Pence.

kag

(4,079 posts)
86. I was with you up until...
Tue Feb 5, 2019, 07:10 PM
Feb 2019

"There is zero chance that Pelosi becomes President no matter what happens relating to Pence."

I agree completely that this whole story is a lot of wishful thinking by PoliticsUSA, but the fact is that IF both Trump and Pence were to be removed from office, Nancy Pelosi would be next in line for the presidency. Now, there may be zero chance that Pence would ever be removed from office, but that doesn't negate the fact that IF he were, and assuming Trump was long gone (be still my heart), Nancy Pelosi would become President.

onenote

(42,835 posts)
91. There is zero chance that trump and pence leave office simultaneously.
Tue Feb 5, 2019, 07:28 PM
Feb 2019

Or to put it another way, it is as likely as pugs flying.

They will not and can’t be forced to resign simultaneously. With the Republicans controlling the senate any deal by which leave office will have to involve the naming of a republican as the replacement for pence

kag

(4,079 posts)
93. No argument.
Tue Feb 5, 2019, 08:51 PM
Feb 2019

I'm not quibbling with the likelihood of it happening being virtually zero; only with your characterization of the result if it were to happen.

 

zaj

(3,433 posts)
43. This is a ***claim*** by a ***blog***, folks... Not journalism
Tue Feb 5, 2019, 01:20 PM
Feb 2019

DU, let's keep up our standards for hyperbolic claims we get excited about. Nothing in the OP supports the dramatic claims in the OP.

garybeck

(9,942 posts)
90. ding ding ding!
Tue Feb 5, 2019, 07:13 PM
Feb 2019

there is nothing in the tweet or CNN article that specifies who the charges are against. that is speculation

donkeypoofed

(2,187 posts)
46. Whatever, you guys. It's still fun to think about !!
Tue Feb 5, 2019, 01:28 PM
Feb 2019

Our long time dreams may come true, so let us revel in our fantasy just a little longer. Thanks.

gordianot

(15,259 posts)
52. Notice who they trot out as spokesman for transition apologist.
Tue Feb 5, 2019, 01:38 PM
Feb 2019

Christie would not be my choice for a mouth piece.

Tommy_Carcetti

(43,230 posts)
53. Still speculative at this point.
Tue Feb 5, 2019, 01:41 PM
Feb 2019

Wait to see what actually comes out of this to determine who is implicated here.

GoCubsGo

(32,103 posts)
54. Good. He's even more odious than Trump.
Tue Feb 5, 2019, 01:42 PM
Feb 2019

He wants to make America into the Handmaid's Tale, and that's not an exaggeration.

pnwmom

(109,025 posts)
75. Except it isn't news. The tweet about the subpoena is from an actual journalist BUT
Tue Feb 5, 2019, 04:59 PM
Feb 2019

the article is from PoliticsUSA, and is so hyperbolic it can't be taken seriously.

For instance, it -- and another article it links to -- says over and over that Trump "stole" the $107 million in inaugural funds. We know that isn't true. That was the total amount raised for the inauguration, and SOME of those millions clearly had to be spend on the skimpy parties he DID have. We just don't know how much.

We should be careful about believing sites that are over-promising, unless we want to be disappointed in the end.

aggiesal

(8,960 posts)
77. So here is what is going to happen, ...
Tue Feb 5, 2019, 05:35 PM
Feb 2019

1) Once Pence know he'll be convicted, he will resign from the office of VP.
2) TRE45ON will then nominate a squeaky clean (R)
3) TRE45ON will then resign from the Presidency and the squeaky clean (R) will become IQ46.

There is no way the (R)'s are going to let Speaker Nancy take over the Presidency.
They will do everything they can to keep her out.

tclambert

(11,087 posts)
78. Can you imagine Mike Pence in prison? Somebody might want to be his *gasp* "boyfriend."
Tue Feb 5, 2019, 05:37 PM
Feb 2019

"Mother, help me! They think I'm pretty."

BigOleDummy

(2,272 posts)
96. He is
Wed Feb 6, 2019, 09:35 AM
Feb 2019

up to "mothers" granny panties in this corrupt administrations sordidness. I really hope he goes down first tbh, closely followed by our crime family in chief.

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