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David__77

(23,627 posts)
Tue Feb 5, 2019, 01:09 PM Feb 2019

Kamala Harris and Bernie Sanders to Deliver SOTU-Related Statements

Sen. Kamala Harris (Calif.), one of the Democrats running to replace President Trump in 2020, announced Tuesday that she would deliver a prebuttal on Facebook Live about an hour before he gives his State of the Union address.

"I'm delivering remarks tonight on Facebook Live ahead of the President’s State of the Union Address," Harris said on Twitter. "It's critical we speak truth to the American people during this inflection moment in our country's history."

https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/428517-kamala-harris-to-deliver-address-ahead-of-trumps-state-of-the-union

Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.) will deliver his own response to President Trump's speech to Congress on Tuesday for the third year running.

The senator's office confirmed to The Hill that his response will follow Trump's State of the Union address as well as the Democratic rebuttal and be streamed on Facebook, YouTube and Twitter.

https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/428430-bernie-sanders-to-deliver-his-own-state-of-the-union-response

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Kamala Harris and Bernie Sanders to Deliver SOTU-Related Statements (Original Post) David__77 Feb 2019 OP
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Lol. As if. Hassin Bin Sober Feb 2019 #3
Some people may be strongly critical of Harris for speaking out at that time. David__77 Feb 2019 #5
wait and see attitude Hassin Bin Sober Feb 2019 #6
I won't be waiting lol... David__77 Feb 2019 #18
Not really, but DownriverDem Feb 2019 #47
Why? She's taken note that Trump lies all the time and wants to set up a truthful framework DemocracyMouse Feb 2019 #65
Trump's speech tonight confirms what I wrote earlier today DemocracyMouse Feb 2019 #89
Plenty of People Will Criticize Her for Breathing McKim Feb 2019 #48
I think having a robust discussion of ideas would be good. David__77 Feb 2019 #50
Post removed Post removed Feb 2019 #7
Lol... touche Arazi Feb 2019 #9
Post removed Post removed Feb 2019 #21
No. She is upstaging Trump, not Abrams. SunSeeker Feb 2019 #32
But justie18 Feb 2019 #37
She's not upstaging Abrams, she won't be commenting on anything trump says, Abrams will. George II Feb 2019 #67
she is not competing with abarams who is not running for president AlexSFCA Feb 2019 #77
Well safeinOhio Feb 2019 #2
Sen. Kamala Harris to Deliver Her Own SOTU Response David__77 Feb 2019 #4
It is not a "response," it's a coming BEFORE Trump's SOTU. SunSeeker Feb 2019 #34
Doesn't matter. She's hoping to be the news line the next day, instead of Abrams. Honeycombe8 Feb 2019 #56
Any reason why they both couldn't be? forgotmylogin Feb 2019 #57
Yes, there is. There is only one Democratic headline the day after. Harris wants it to be her. Honeycombe8 Feb 2019 #58
Every single Democrat could make a statement on Twitter. forgotmylogin Feb 2019 #61
Okay, okay. You're a Harris supporter. I get it. It doesn't change the facts.. Honeycombe8 Feb 2019 #64
What about Bernie? Or any other Democrat who has comments? forgotmylogin Feb 2019 #84
Anyone is "allowed." But it shows what their goal is. Which is not for the benefit of the Dem. Party Honeycombe8 Feb 2019 #86
By that logic, you must believe everyone speaking right now is hoping to take the news from Abrams. SunSeeker Feb 2019 #68
She's not delivering a response EffieBlack Feb 2019 #45
That's what the Daily Kos poster said. It's a SOTU-related statement, not a response. David__77 Feb 2019 #46
only the internet is distracted bigtree Feb 2019 #8
ABC News: Sen. Kamala Harris to deliver remarks on Facebook Live ahead of Pres. Trump's SOTU David__77 Feb 2019 #10
Thanks for warning me. Honeycombe8 Feb 2019 #33
Still waiting for the outrage. vsrazdem Feb 2019 #11
It may be a while Hassin Bin Sober Feb 2019 #20
There's no outrage like selective outrage. n/t QC Feb 2019 #24
Making a statement prior to the SOTU I think that would be fine with most Dems. honest.abe Feb 2019 #12
I can't believe she would try and upstage Stacey Abrams by preempting her SOTU rebuttal. TCJ70 Feb 2019 #13
You are clearly confused if you cant see the difference. honest.abe Feb 2019 #14
Maybe all parties could be silent and sit still for a period of 24 hours before and after. David__77 Feb 2019 #15
Or it just really doesn't matter when someone puts their thoughts out on their social media outlets TCJ70 Feb 2019 #16
Or, rather than having outrage, one could say... David__77 Feb 2019 #17
+1 Delmette2.0 Feb 2019 #23
+1 rampartc Feb 2019 #27
I think it's great that there is such shared perspective. David__77 Feb 2019 #28
Some of the views here Mr. Quackers Feb 2019 #29
I've noticed that, too. n/t QC Feb 2019 #49
I can understand how it might seem that way! David__77 Feb 2019 #83
Do you remember an old time poster named seventhson? QC Feb 2019 #85
I do not. David__77 Feb 2019 #87
He was one of the most skilled trolls I have ever seen. QC Feb 2019 #88
I think the more the merrier! Sincerely! lunatica Feb 2019 #38
How anyone could say she is "upstaging" or "preempting" Abrams' rebuttal is quite beyond me. Demit Feb 2019 #35
it's idiotic Mr. Quackers Feb 2019 #51
you are missing the irony these posts are being delivered in, re sanders threads. nt JCanete Feb 2019 #62
Evidently so. Demit Feb 2019 #80
It's great - we need all the Dems we can to speak out against the asshole Trump womanofthehills Feb 2019 #59
How can he disrupt something that is already over? Voltaire2 Feb 2019 #91
bad move imo. Mosby Feb 2019 #19
Which one? Harris' pre-rebuttal or Sanders' rebuttal? SunSeeker Feb 2019 #43
both. nt Mosby Feb 2019 #82
Guardian: "Powerful Statement" David__77 Feb 2019 #22
How many people will tune in IcyPeas Feb 2019 #25
We should have a SOTUbuster and everyone can give a rebuttal democratisphere Feb 2019 #26
I think I'll give one, too. Look for my Youtube response coming soon. Honeycombe8 Feb 2019 #31
Stealing Abrams' thunder? Seriously? Honeycombe8 Feb 2019 #30
It is a pre-rebuttal meant to steal Trump's thunder. SunSeeker Feb 2019 #39
She's hoping to be the Democratic news line the next day, instead of Abrams. nt Honeycombe8 Feb 2019 #53
How exactly is Sanders stealing Abram's thunder? progressoid Feb 2019 #54
By claiming he is giving the response to Trump's SOTU. SunSeeker Feb 2019 #66
Wow. progressoid Feb 2019 #70
Was Kennedy the first white male to give the Dem rebuttal to the SOTU? nt SunSeeker Feb 2019 #72
Ah, I see. progressoid Feb 2019 #78
Where has he made that claim? Voltaire2 Feb 2019 #92
In his tweet: "I'll be on Facebook Live, Twitter and YouTube to respond to Trump." SunSeeker Feb 2019 #94
He did not claim he was giving "the Democratic response". Voltaire2 Feb 2019 #95
I didn't say he did. nt SunSeeker Feb 2019 #96
Oh so you agree that he was not Voltaire2 Feb 2019 #97
No. It was disrespectful of him to give a response to Trump right after Abrams. SunSeeker Feb 2019 #98
So Abrams response was so weak it needed Voltaire2 Feb 2019 #99
You don't seem to understand the concept of respect. SunSeeker Feb 2019 #100
So how exactly did a YouTube event after Abrams Voltaire2 Feb 2019 #101
The focus should have been on Abrams' response last night, instead of Bernie's. SunSeeker Feb 2019 #102
Wow, I think you got caught in a couple hoops, but all in all, I'm still impressed. nt JCanete Feb 2019 #63
I'm not the one caught in hoops, JCanete. nt SunSeeker Feb 2019 #69
Her instincts don't thrill me, to put it mildly Awsi Dooger Feb 2019 #40
Not a good move, Kamala and Bernie. eom mfcorey1 Feb 2019 #36
Good move Kamala and Bernie womanofthehills Feb 2019 #60
I can agree with that! David__77 Feb 2019 #74
+100! Rhiannon12866 Feb 2019 #75
Let me just say, while I disagree with you that this is bad, I appreciate that your position is JCanete Feb 2019 #73
Good! mountain grammy Feb 2019 #41
Spectacular! ismnotwasm Feb 2019 #42
She obviously won't be speaking about things trump mentioned in his address. George II Feb 2019 #44
OUTRAGEOUS!!! progressoid Feb 2019 #52
Elizabeth now, Kamala maybe later notinkansas Feb 2019 #55
Te hehehehe... disillusioned73 Feb 2019 #71
I am not surprised at Bernie, but Kamala needs better advisors. redstatebluegirl Feb 2019 #76
Probably no big deal, now that I think about it Awsi Dooger Feb 2019 #79
Good grief! Already ODed on SOTU-as-candidate-exposure-event, Hortensis Feb 2019 #81
Thank you! Duppers Feb 2019 #90
You're welcome! David__77 Feb 2019 #93

Response to David__77 (Original post)

DownriverDem

(6,236 posts)
47. Not really, but
Tue Feb 5, 2019, 03:23 PM
Feb 2019

it makes me wonder why she is doing it. Stacey Abrams is perfectly capable of giving the rebuttal.

DemocracyMouse

(2,275 posts)
65. Why? She's taken note that Trump lies all the time and wants to set up a truthful framework
Tue Feb 5, 2019, 04:09 PM
Feb 2019

For example, she might repeat what the media fails to repeat and make clear:

In case Trump speaks about the wall and uses it to declare a National emergency, Kamala may want say THERE IS NO EMERGENCY AT THE BORDER:
Most crimes, per capita, are committed by US citizens (including Trump himself).
The wall only provides a payout to the Russian oligarch (crime boss) whom Trump has tapped to provide the steel.
Most immigrants who live here illegally fly into the US and overstay their visa.
Drug dealers send in drugs via sea, tunnels, sling shot, hidden containers.
Building the wall requires the taking of US citizen’s land via imminent domain

DemocracyMouse

(2,275 posts)
89. Trump's speech tonight confirms what I wrote earlier today
Tue Feb 5, 2019, 10:48 PM
Feb 2019

He stood up there and lied repeatedly about immigration and the wall.

McKim

(2,412 posts)
48. Plenty of People Will Criticize Her for Breathing
Tue Feb 5, 2019, 03:27 PM
Feb 2019

You can be sure that there will be an army of trolls criticizing any democrat for anything! Don’t feed the trolls. I am thrilled that we have so many prominent democrats making comments and having their own media to carry them. Let’s have a robust discussion of great ideas!

David__77

(23,627 posts)
50. I think having a robust discussion of ideas would be good.
Tue Feb 5, 2019, 03:31 PM
Feb 2019

What policies should be supported? Opposed? That sort of thing!

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SunSeeker

(51,798 posts)
32. No. She is upstaging Trump, not Abrams.
Tue Feb 5, 2019, 02:48 PM
Feb 2019

She is not doing a reponse to Trump's SOTU, she is doing an alternative to it, so she is not stepping on what Abrams is doing, which is a response to Trump's SOTU.

SunSeeker

(51,798 posts)
34. It is not a "response," it's a coming BEFORE Trump's SOTU.
Tue Feb 5, 2019, 02:51 PM
Feb 2019

You could call it a pre-rebuttal or just an alternative SOTU.

Honeycombe8

(37,648 posts)
56. Doesn't matter. She's hoping to be the news line the next day, instead of Abrams.
Tue Feb 5, 2019, 03:47 PM
Feb 2019

And that's the name of that tune.

forgotmylogin

(7,540 posts)
57. Any reason why they both couldn't be?
Tue Feb 5, 2019, 03:51 PM
Feb 2019

We should be so fortunate to have newscasts filled with statements from the Democrats opposing Trump.

Honeycombe8

(37,648 posts)
58. Yes, there is. There is only one Democratic headline the day after. Harris wants it to be her.
Tue Feb 5, 2019, 03:52 PM
Feb 2019

Instead of the person the Democratic Party chose.

And that's the name of that tune.

forgotmylogin

(7,540 posts)
61. Every single Democrat could make a statement on Twitter.
Tue Feb 5, 2019, 03:55 PM
Feb 2019

Before, during, and after the SOTU. We should be so lucky to fill up the airwaves rebutting Trump and flooding out the rightwing talking points

You make it sound like the news is "Here is our required two minutes of democratic coverage, and now back to Sarah Sanders..."

Honeycombe8

(37,648 posts)
64. Okay, okay. You're a Harris supporter. I get it. It doesn't change the facts..
Tue Feb 5, 2019, 04:04 PM
Feb 2019

that she is trying to steal Abrams' thunder.

The game is obvious. But hey, it may work. It works for others. But IMO it's not respectful of another Democrat who was chosen to present the Democratic message. So I know who I won't vote for, for the nomination. I'm up to my ears in disrespectful behavior by politicians.

forgotmylogin

(7,540 posts)
84. What about Bernie? Or any other Democrat who has comments?
Tue Feb 5, 2019, 07:07 PM
Feb 2019

Are they not allowed to also rebut the President?

Abrams has the point slot and totally deserves it, but that shouldn't preclude anyone from being heard.

Honeycombe8

(37,648 posts)
86. Anyone is "allowed." But it shows what their goal is. Which is not for the benefit of the Dem. Party
Tue Feb 5, 2019, 07:17 PM
Feb 2019

IMO. It's ego. (Note: Bernie isn't a Democrat; he's an independent who caucuses with the Democrats, and registers as a Dem.temporarily when he wants to run for President.)

This has never been done by any respectable politician, that I know of. It's positioning oneself to grab the news. Shows unbelievable ego. You think Obama would've done that? Never. He was confident in himself and would have waited for his own clear chance, and not interfered with the designated party speaker for that night.

But you have a different opinion. We have the right to have different opinions about it.

SunSeeker

(51,798 posts)
68. By that logic, you must believe everyone speaking right now is hoping to take the news from Abrams.
Tue Feb 5, 2019, 04:24 PM
Feb 2019

You are not making any sense. Do you truly see no difference between people commenting before Trump's SOTU, like Harris and others are doing, and holding yourself out as providing a response to Trump's SOTU, like Bernie is doing?

Bernie is claiming he is giving the response to Trump's SOTU.

What part of First African American woman giving the Democratic Response do you not understand? 

Why can't he let us look like we are unified, speaking with one voice in rebutting Trump tonight, of all nights? 

Why does he create the suggestion that Abram's rebuttal will be so inadequate that he must give his own, immediately following hers? 

bigtree

(86,016 posts)
8. only the internet is distracted
Tue Feb 5, 2019, 01:25 PM
Feb 2019

...Bernie's last rebuttal to a Trump speech wasn't carried by anyone important, didn't upstage anything as I suggested it might.

This is a big yawn, except, perhaps for Harris fans who want to see what she thinks of the SOTU.

David__77

(23,627 posts)
10. ABC News: Sen. Kamala Harris to deliver remarks on Facebook Live ahead of Pres. Trump's SOTU
Tue Feb 5, 2019, 01:27 PM
Feb 2019

?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1092816662208958464&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.dailykos.com%2Fstory%2F2019%2F2%2F5%2F1832414%2F-Sen-Kamala-Harris-to-Deliver-Her-Own-SOTU-Response

Honeycombe8

(37,648 posts)
33. Thanks for warning me.
Tue Feb 5, 2019, 02:48 PM
Feb 2019

Sheesh. All the piling on from politicians. Can't we just follow protocol and let the designated response by Abrams go ahead?

honest.abe

(8,689 posts)
12. Making a statement prior to the SOTU I think that would be fine with most Dems.
Tue Feb 5, 2019, 01:30 PM
Feb 2019

Its the official rebuttal after the SOTU which is better to be one clear consistent voice. Bernie will attempt to disrupt that.

TCJ70

(4,387 posts)
13. I can't believe she would try and upstage Stacey Abrams by preempting her SOTU rebuttal.
Tue Feb 5, 2019, 01:37 PM
Feb 2019

She must be so full of herself to think her message needs to be put in front of the person invited by the Democratic Party to deal with the SOTU. How are we to be unified if anyone can talk at any time about this stuff!

/s

TCJ70

(4,387 posts)
16. Or it just really doesn't matter when someone puts their thoughts out on their social media outlets
Tue Feb 5, 2019, 01:43 PM
Feb 2019

...That's really hard for some people to accept, though, I guess. Frankly I don't care if she speaks before, after, or during the speech. I just expect equal outrage and so far I'm being let down.

David__77

(23,627 posts)
17. Or, rather than having outrage, one could say...
Tue Feb 5, 2019, 01:46 PM
Feb 2019

"I'm f**king glad Kamala Harris and Bernie Sanders are speaking out!"

rampartc

(5,457 posts)
27. +1
Tue Feb 5, 2019, 02:39 PM
Feb 2019

even if they disagree, the more sane voices contradicting the liar in chief, the better.

the best policy : concentrate on what sanders, abrams, and harris agree on as points to help unify us against this monster.

 

Mr. Quackers

(443 posts)
29. Some of the views here
Tue Feb 5, 2019, 02:42 PM
Feb 2019

seem almost like a put on, using a cartoonish perception of Democrats instead of what Democrats really are.

QC

(26,371 posts)
85. Do you remember an old time poster named seventhson?
Tue Feb 5, 2019, 07:10 PM
Feb 2019

Fascinating--and very instructive--story behind him.

QC

(26,371 posts)
88. He was one of the most skilled trolls I have ever seen.
Tue Feb 5, 2019, 07:30 PM
Feb 2019

Insinuated himself into this place by acting like the most democratty democrat that ever democratted and spent all of his time pitting people against each other here. Man, could he stir the shit, and he had quite the fan club here.

And then on election night of 2004, he outed himself as a freeper.

lunatica

(53,410 posts)
38. I think the more the merrier! Sincerely!
Tue Feb 5, 2019, 02:57 PM
Feb 2019

If you love your country and have the audience then it’s fucking time to speak out against the Mobster president every single time he shows his face or opens his mouth. I call that patriotism.

 

Demit

(11,238 posts)
35. How anyone could say she is "upstaging" or "preempting" Abrams' rebuttal is quite beyond me.
Tue Feb 5, 2019, 02:53 PM
Feb 2019

Harris' statement will be on Facebook. Stacy Abrams' rebuttal—the official Democratic rebuttal—will (presumably) be televised.

womanofthehills

(8,808 posts)
59. It's great - we need all the Dems we can to speak out against the asshole Trump
Tue Feb 5, 2019, 03:54 PM
Feb 2019

Stop putting down our Dem candidates.

Voltaire2

(13,259 posts)
91. How can he disrupt something that is already over?
Tue Feb 5, 2019, 11:25 PM
Feb 2019

His social media event is after Abrams tv event. Does he use his super powers to go back in time?

SunSeeker

(51,798 posts)
43. Which one? Harris' pre-rebuttal or Sanders' rebuttal?
Tue Feb 5, 2019, 03:04 PM
Feb 2019

One steals the spotlight from Trump, the other steals the spotlight from Abrams.

David__77

(23,627 posts)
22. Guardian: "Powerful Statement"
Tue Feb 5, 2019, 02:16 PM
Feb 2019

Democrats are making a powerful statement without anyone uttering a word at the State of the Union address tonight. House Speaker Nancy Pelosi will sit on the dias behind Trump; Stacey Abrams, who narrowly missed becoming Georgia’s first black woman governor, will deliver the Dems’ official response. And now White House aspirant Kamala Harris is set to deliver what’s being called a “prebuttal” address live on Facebook before the event.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/live/2019/feb/05/trump-state-of-the-union-news-live-latest-updates-democrats-sotu?page=with:block-5c59ce12e4b04a6f567d9670#block-5c59ce12e4b04a6f567d9670

IcyPeas

(21,946 posts)
25. How many people will tune in
Tue Feb 5, 2019, 02:32 PM
Feb 2019

to Facebook, YouTube or Twitter to watch any of these? Or will even know they are happening?

SunSeeker

(51,798 posts)
39. It is a pre-rebuttal meant to steal Trump's thunder.
Tue Feb 5, 2019, 02:59 PM
Feb 2019

Harris is in essence doing an alternative SOTU. Abrams is doing the Dem RESPONSE to Trump's SOTU. Harris is not trying to steal Abram's thunder, by claiming it is a response to Trump's SOTU. That is what Sanders is doing. So that must mean you're not voting for Sanders either, eh?

progressoid

(50,016 posts)
54. How exactly is Sanders stealing Abram's thunder?
Tue Feb 5, 2019, 03:47 PM
Feb 2019

She will be rightly be shown exclusively on cable and broadcast giving the official Dem response.

Whereas, he will be speaking after she does and only online. Cable and broadcast outlets will not be covering him.



SunSeeker

(51,798 posts)
66. By claiming he is giving the response to Trump's SOTU.
Tue Feb 5, 2019, 04:16 PM
Feb 2019

What part of First African American woman giving the Democratic Response do you not understand?

Why can't he let us look like we are unified, speaking with one voice tonight, of all nights?

Why does he create the suggestion that Abram's rebuttal will be so inadequate that he must give his own, immediately following hers?

progressoid

(50,016 posts)
70. Wow.
Tue Feb 5, 2019, 04:41 PM
Feb 2019
What part of First African American woman giving the Demacratic Response do you not understand?


Irrelevant Conclusion

Why can't he let us look like we are unified, speaking with one voice tonight, of all nights?


Does this not apply also to Senator Harris?
And does that mean that no other Democrats should be allowed to speak after Abram's rebuttal? Because I'm pretty sure there will be a LOT of Democrats on TV giving their 2 cents worth tonight and tomorrow.

Why does he create the suggestion that Abram's rebuttal will be so inadequate that he must give his own, immediately following hers?


Did you feel the same way last year for Kennedy's rebuttal? Last year we also heard from Elizabeth Guzman, Maxine Waters, Donna Edwards and Sanders.

Voltaire2

(13,259 posts)
97. Oh so you agree that he was not
Wed Feb 6, 2019, 06:35 AM
Feb 2019

interfering or competing with Abrams giving “the Democratic response”.

Was there actually some problem with three of our leaders giving great responses to the SOTU? What calamity resulted? Why were people here so determined to create controversy over this?

SunSeeker

(51,798 posts)
98. No. It was disrespectful of him to give a response to Trump right after Abrams.
Wed Feb 6, 2019, 06:58 AM
Feb 2019

It implied her response was inadequate. And it was tone deaf, considering she is the first African American woman to give the Democratic response.

Couldn't he wait just 12 fucking hours?

There was no "calamity," except to Bernie's campaign. But it was still tone deaf and disrepecful. That is how many African Americans saw it. Stating this fact is not an attempt to create controversy. Bernie created the controversy.





https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.newsweek.com/bernie-sanders-stacey-abrams-state-union-1319571%3famp=1

Voltaire2

(13,259 posts)
99. So Abrams response was so weak it needed
Wed Feb 6, 2019, 07:05 AM
Feb 2019

a 12 hour buffer around it? Not 8? 4 wouldn’t do? Perhaps 12 wasn’t enough? How do you determine how big a buffer Abrams needed?

She gave a great rebuttal. I still fail to see how Sanders on YouTube after her tv appearance interfered with her speech at all. In fact I think it is patronizing and perhaps racist to argue that Abrams needed protection from Sanders.

SunSeeker

(51,798 posts)
100. You don't seem to understand the concept of respect.
Wed Feb 6, 2019, 07:26 AM
Feb 2019

You don't respect someone because they are "weak" or need "protection." You respect someone because they deserve it, like Abrams does. Abrams deserved the spotlight this evening for the response to Trump.

If you and Bernie can't understand why what he did was racially tone deaf and disrespectful, I can't help you.

Good night.

Voltaire2

(13,259 posts)
101. So how exactly did a YouTube event after Abrams
Wed Feb 6, 2019, 11:36 AM
Feb 2019

tv broadcast steal the spotlight from Joe Kennedy last year?

SunSeeker

(51,798 posts)
102. The focus should have been on Abrams' response last night, instead of Bernie's.
Wed Feb 6, 2019, 03:07 PM
Feb 2019

Now granted Bernie did not have much of an actual audience, but the press still reported on him, like they always do. https://www.cnn.com/videos/politics/2019/02/06/bernie-sanders-state-of-the-union-response-2019-economy-sot-vpx.cnn

Media space on a topic like SOTU responses is limited. Stories spent reporting on Bernie's response to Trump necessarily takes away from stories on Abram's response to Trump.

So, he stole some of her spotlight, even if a little. That was disrespectful to the first African American woman to give the Democratic response.

And with regard to Joe Kennedy, he was not the first white male to give the Dem response. There was not the same historical context to it, so Bernie stepping on his spotlight did not have the same racial tone deafness aspect and disrespect to it, so it did not receive the same level of criticism. But Bernie's response then still served to steal some of Kennedy's spotlight, however small.

 

Awsi Dooger

(14,565 posts)
40. Her instincts don't thrill me, to put it mildly
Tue Feb 5, 2019, 03:01 PM
Feb 2019

Not surprising at all. I've sensed it throughout. During a long campaign you need to know when to accelerate and when to brake. I think Kamala Harris would be too much of a one-gear type

womanofthehills

(8,808 posts)
60. Good move Kamala and Bernie
Tue Feb 5, 2019, 03:55 PM
Feb 2019

In fact, we need more senators to speak out about this horror that is Trump.

 

JCanete

(5,272 posts)
73. Let me just say, while I disagree with you that this is bad, I appreciate that your position is
Tue Feb 5, 2019, 04:52 PM
Feb 2019

consistent for both Senators.

notinkansas

(1,096 posts)
55. Elizabeth now, Kamala maybe later
Tue Feb 5, 2019, 03:47 PM
Feb 2019

Kamala Harris may grow into a good candidate eventually. I don't believe she is there as of now. It seems to me like she has presented herself as an Elizabeth Warren wannabe without having the record to back that claim up.

Elizabeth Warren is the real deal and has been for her entire political life.

 

Awsi Dooger

(14,565 posts)
79. Probably no big deal, now that I think about it
Tue Feb 5, 2019, 05:11 PM
Feb 2019

They are making decisions toward energizing a base and winning a nomination, while I'm focusing on instincts required in a long general election battle against an incumbent.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
81. Good grief! Already ODed on SOTU-as-candidate-exposure-event,
Tue Feb 5, 2019, 05:20 PM
Feb 2019

and the speeches haven't even begun. I won't be watching anyone but Stacey Abrams.

I like Kamala and could imagine someday voting for her for something. But I'm not looking at ANY candidates this early. I'll let at least a dozen weed out before I start examining those who are becoming potentially viable.

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