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kpete

(72,056 posts)
Mon Feb 18, 2019, 11:05 PM Feb 2019

THIS from Paul Krugman


@paulkrugman

So Democrats will run on proposals to expand healthcare and child care, while the GOP screams about socialism and scary brown people. And news analyses will say that both sides are descending into the gutter.



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marylandblue

(12,344 posts)
1. Well, that's how you beat a wannabe authoritarian populist.
Mon Feb 18, 2019, 11:10 PM
Feb 2019

He will try to wrestle you in the mud and beat you with experience, but if you focus on policy, he will defeat himself.

rpannier

(24,350 posts)
2. what confuses them about that photo
Tue Feb 19, 2019, 02:06 AM
Feb 2019

The wpmen in that photo are working.
Something alien to congressional republikkans

 

Awsi Dooger

(14,565 posts)
4. They used it successfully here in Florida
Tue Feb 19, 2019, 03:40 AM
Feb 2019

Ignore that at our own expense. I have studied exit polls since 1992. Regardless of state, I have never seen anything close to the 46% who said Gillum was too liberal for the state of Florida. They did it by pounding the socialist label on Gillum and also Nelson, as absurd as that was. Ocasio-Cortez now enables an easy reference point for the scare tactic to continue uninterrupted, and accelerate.

I have Las Vegas sports betting friends dating to 1984 who are hard core right wing. They are the reason I always understood Trump had more of a chance than conventional wisdom suggested. They are enthralled with Trump. But I never heard them use the word socialist until recent years. Now it is guaranteed to be within any conversation or email, if politics is a topic.

Likewise on the sports sites. There is an ongoing Trump thread on LetsRun.com that is frequented by both sides and is always a good barometer of political wind. Currently every recent page is dominated by socialism debate. Well, the liberals debate while the right wingers spew insults and ignorance.

radius777

(3,635 posts)
7. Agree, moderate voting groups
Tue Feb 19, 2019, 12:04 PM
Feb 2019

such as homeowners, business owners etc are scared off by (what they perceive to be) socialist policies and the threat of overly high taxes... they will vote for Dems and support many social programs but only if they see the candidate as center-left ie like Bill or Obama or even Hillary (who iirc did well w/moderates and suburban types).

Schultz (a moderate Dem) threatening to run independent is a sign of such voters discomfort with socialist rhetoric and overly high tax proposals.

Garrett78

(10,721 posts)
5. My wife and I were listening to a podcast called The Professional Left, and...
Tue Feb 19, 2019, 04:06 AM
Feb 2019

...one of the hosts was talking about how the mainstream media basically has 2 buckets. There's the bucket that contains emails and Benghazi. And there's the bucket that contains the lying, the sexual assault, the racism, the criminality and so on. The media, generally speaking, believes that both buckets are of equal size at all times and must be drawn from in equal measure.

The media has a terribly warped sense of what constitutes "balance" or "fairness." And the impact on society is devastating.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
6. We all have the ability to turn off MSNBC and CNN, the biggest purveyors
Tue Feb 19, 2019, 11:47 AM
Feb 2019

to those here, particularly the daytime shows pushing their approved themes.

And no one forces us to click on sites pushing similar themes or to read subversive authors, easily identified because they leave us feeling like we will probably lose, and when they've done a really good job on the particularly vulnerable, that we deserve to.

Trust your mood on this. If it doesn't feel like it's describing you, just some incredibly stupid and/or corrupt "them," it isn't describing either.

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