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pnwmom

(109,026 posts)
Tue Feb 19, 2019, 11:06 AM Feb 2019

New Bertrand/McCabe interview: Trump runs his org like the mob, and Mueller is targeting him

like the head of cartel or a crime family.

https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2019/02/mccabe-warns-trump-mueller-undeterred/583000/

Bertrand: Shifting gears now to the special-counsel investigation, legal experts have often observed that Mueller seems to be investigating Trump and his campaign like he would a Mafia family. You spent a decade going after the Russian mob in New York. Do you think, given what we’ve seen from Mueller so far, that Trump is still a target?

McCabe: There are a lot of patterns in what Director Mueller is doing that are very familiar to me. Those patterns of targeting and investigating people who may have had more of a hands-on role, albeit at a lower level, and using those investigations to develop information and informants and cooperators—I mean, it is really the classic enterprise investigation that Director Mueller and his team have pursued. So do I think the case into Trump is open or closed? There’s absolutely no reason for me to believe that it’s closed. And you can certainly look at what Mueller’s done so far to say he is doing exactly what we would do with the investigation of a cartel or an organized-crime family.

Bertrand: So Trump strikes you as someone who runs his organization, and now is running his administration, like the mob.

McCabe: Well, that was my own experience with him, right? That kind of overwhelming or overriding focus on loyalty and sorting everybody out immediately—like, you’re either with us or you’re against us. Those are all traits that you see in organized-crime enterprises.


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New Bertrand/McCabe interview: Trump runs his org like the mob, and Mueller is targeting him (Original Post) pnwmom Feb 2019 OP
I sure like Bertrand. Remember during the last prz election she kinda looked... samnsara Feb 2019 #1
She seemed so young. Polly Hennessey Feb 2019 #5
The Trump crime family certainly fits RICO dalton99a Feb 2019 #2
I get the feeling that.. Fuzzpope Feb 2019 #3
I agree. kentuck Feb 2019 #4
McCabe was politically railroaded by Trump and his cronies. ooky Feb 2019 #9
That's not the issue here at all. Fuzzpope Feb 2019 #10
Only responding to the question you raised in your OP. ooky Feb 2019 #12
All good Fuzzpope Feb 2019 #13
Crime family yes---but "organized"? panader0 Feb 2019 #6
Nothing new to see here. We knew that already..... ProudMNDemocrat Feb 2019 #7
While l agree that tRump is all about structuring his rule around corruption Enoki33 Feb 2019 #8
Mueller has played this as a RICO case from day one. sarcasmo Feb 2019 #11
Yep. His first act, after reading Comey's report, was to GoCubsGo Feb 2019 #14

samnsara

(17,667 posts)
1. I sure like Bertrand. Remember during the last prz election she kinda looked...
Tue Feb 19, 2019, 11:16 AM
Feb 2019

...scared every time she was on the talk shows. I felt so sorry for her. Like a deer caught in headlights..stared straight ahead, frightened.. Now shes much more confident and it really makes watching her enjoyable.

 

Fuzzpope

(602 posts)
3. I get the feeling that..
Tue Feb 19, 2019, 11:21 AM
Feb 2019

McCabe is deliberately working these interviews as a lightning rod, an antagonist, forcing not only Trump's hand by flushing him into the open, but forcing others to recognize what he has made clearer than anyone to date regarding Trump's ongoing criminal nature and the election disaster.

My only question is, is McCabe doing this on his own initiative (unlikely, he'd seek to avoid causing trouble for his former colleagues), or is he serving as the tip of the spear in a coordinated maneuver.

The things he has said are going to trigger a frenzied panic in Trump and he is definitely going to act upon it, guaranteed.

First thing he's going to attempt is to kill off the Mueller investigation again, probably with a bit more effort than we've seen previously.

McCabe can't be on his own here, something is up.

kentuck

(111,111 posts)
4. I agree.
Tue Feb 19, 2019, 11:34 AM
Feb 2019

They are pulling every chain that Trump possesses. It will be interesting to see how subservient Bill Barr will be in the next few weeks?

ooky

(8,938 posts)
9. McCabe was politically railroaded by Trump and his cronies.
Tue Feb 19, 2019, 01:36 PM
Feb 2019

Very possible he is acting on his own, just telling his story. What does he have to lose that hasn't already been taken from him?

 

Fuzzpope

(602 posts)
10. That's not the issue here at all.
Tue Feb 19, 2019, 02:38 PM
Feb 2019

Challenging Trump, stressing the strong possibility that he is indeed the Russian asset, or agent we have intuited him to be, doing this does not regain McCabe any perceived "lost ground" or save face, no, if he is to battle for his own self interest, that domain is with his Justice dept lawsuit, not courting public opinion with statements that cannot/will not be qualified by existing law enforcement agencies or their investigative teams.

What he is doing here, is functioning as a catalyst, a cow prod. And it IS a dangerous game BECAUSE it could lead directly to Trump killing the Mueller investigation, so, if he is not seen here unitateraly, IF, the logical conclusions are, the trap is ready to be sprung on the trophy.

Indirectly, it suggests that Mueller is either done, or very close to it. I do not believe for an instant that McCabe would threaten the critical work Mueller is doing, for any reason, much less selfish ones. Doing so would fly in the face of all of the man's training and decades of laser- focused work ethics.

I just don't see that. McCabe is the consummate FBI professional, that doesn't go away because some mob wanna-be got the drop on him and yanked his pension.

ooky

(8,938 posts)
12. Only responding to the question you raised in your OP.
Tue Feb 19, 2019, 03:44 PM
Feb 2019

You asked if he is doing it on his own initiative or part of some other coordinated effort. I'm saying yes its entirely possible he is doing it on his own initiative, IMHO. I haven't bought the book yet, I plan to, so have only seen the interviews he did with Bertrand and Guthrie. Those weren't softball interviews and he was responding to some pointed questions, and he's not the first to suggest Trump might have been a Russian asset or to piss off Trump. I do think he's using the opportunity to defend himself in the court of public opinion.

 

Fuzzpope

(602 posts)
13. All good
Tue Feb 19, 2019, 03:52 PM
Feb 2019

I'm only thinking it through out loud.

I sincerely hope that he is not merely defending himself in the court of public opinion, in doing so he brings serious peril to the investigation. The only logical deduction I've been able to reason is that is not the motive here.

I hope not.

ProudMNDemocrat

(16,913 posts)
7. Nothing new to see here. We knew that already.....
Tue Feb 19, 2019, 12:05 PM
Feb 2019

That Donald Trump was running the Administration like a mob family. Being President , Trump thinks everything revolves around him and he makes all the decisions, disregarding Advisers on key issues like National Security and Public Policy.

Employing his daughter and Son-In-Law in the Administration is one law Trump broke...the Nepotism Law of 1969 that Congress passed. Not to mention on a daily basis, the Emoluments Clause. Trump is also using the Oval Office to run and expand his Business Empire that is financed with Russian mob money.


Corruption is what Trump is all about.

Enoki33

(1,590 posts)
8. While l agree that tRump is all about structuring his rule around corruption
Tue Feb 19, 2019, 01:24 PM
Feb 2019

and expanding the family organization in quest of power and money, with his ‘election’ he crossed over into the darker world of geopolitical espionage controlled, and in service of the Kremlin. Putin, like the Saudis and every other despotic ruler, understands that with the tRump family everything has a dollar value and is for sale. In tRump Putin has recruited the perfect agent to fulfill his goal of making Russia great again. Again, tRump has crossed into espionage territory, and our IS has to be of that belief. That is what many seem to be missing.

GoCubsGo

(32,103 posts)
14. Yep. His first act, after reading Comey's report, was to
Tue Feb 19, 2019, 04:04 PM
Feb 2019

hire more than a dozen of the nation's top RICO lawyers. That was on his first day on the job.

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