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bigtree

(86,021 posts)
Wed Feb 20, 2019, 01:35 PM Feb 2019

RBG Delivers Majority Opinion Banning Excessive Fines for States, Citing History of Black Codes

Legal Defense Fund @NAACP_LDF 2h2 hours ago
A huge victory for criminal justice reform. In Timbs v. Indiana, #SCOTUS formally incorporates the 8th Amendment's Excessive Fines Clause against the states—majority opinion by #RBG. https://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/18pdf/17-1091_5536.pdf



Megan Ming Francis @meganfrancis 19m19 minutes ago
BREAKING: RBG delivers #SCOTUS opinion in Timbs v. Indiana where she situates protection from excessive fines in history of black codes & convict labor after the Civil War 🔥 https://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/18pdf/17-1091_5536.pdf






Opinion analysis: Eighth Amendment’s ban on excessive fines applies to the states
https://www.scotusblog.com/2019/02/opinion-analysis-eighth-amendments-ban-on-excessive-fines-applies-to-the-states/
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RBG Delivers Majority Opinion Banning Excessive Fines for States, Citing History of Black Codes (Original Post) bigtree Feb 2019 OP
Good on so many counts! elleng Feb 2019 #1
As a lawyer, Ginsburg's opinions literally give me chills down my spine Cicada Feb 2019 #4
DITTO!!! elleng Feb 2019 #6
It was a 9-0 ruling MichMan Feb 2019 #2
should've been obvious and not a surprise ruling Hermit-The-Prog Feb 2019 #3
This is a pretty big deal Johnny2X2X Feb 2019 #5
the conflict of interest in funding police depts. with seized funds bigtree Feb 2019 #7
Agreed, there should be some really interesting follow-on cases w/ this as precedent. X_Digger Feb 2019 #9
She is a national treasure :) PTWB Feb 2019 #8
black codes bigtree Feb 2019 #10

elleng

(131,416 posts)
1. Good on so many counts!
Wed Feb 20, 2019, 01:37 PM
Feb 2019

RBG, Eighth Amendment’s ban on excessive fines applies to the states, INDIANA!

It's pretty clear she was working HARD from home!!!

Cicada

(4,533 posts)
4. As a lawyer, Ginsburg's opinions literally give me chills down my spine
Wed Feb 20, 2019, 02:08 PM
Feb 2019

Her opinions are often masterpieces on three counts, logic, law and English usage. I am a mediocre lawyer. But for five years I lived with a great lawyer who had clerked for the Supremes after graduating from our law school with the highest grades ever by a substantial gap above the previous best. She felt Ginsburg was the greatest lawyer alive, meaning the person best at legal analysis. I get thrilled reading Ginsburg. She is killer bee.

Hermit-The-Prog

(33,571 posts)
3. should've been obvious and not a surprise ruling
Wed Feb 20, 2019, 01:50 PM
Feb 2019

It should be surprising that a state believed the U.S. Constitution didn't apply to them. Instead, our judiciary is so unbalanced that we now fear the outcome of every ruling by the U.S. Supreme Court.

See also:
Sen. Whitehouse: There's a 'Crisis of Credibility' at the U.S. Supreme Court

Johnny2X2X

(19,286 posts)
5. This is a pretty big deal
Wed Feb 20, 2019, 02:08 PM
Feb 2019

Curtailing these types of seizures will not only strike a victory for freedom, it will also limit the way policing agencies can raise their budgets.

bigtree

(86,021 posts)
7. the conflict of interest in funding police depts. with seized funds
Wed Feb 20, 2019, 02:37 PM
Feb 2019

...

2014:

"Ferguson’s financial documents depict a city increasingly reliant on fines to fund government operations. In all, fines and forfeitures accounted for 20 percent of the city’s $12.7 million operating revenue in fiscal year 2013, up from about 13 percent in 2011..."

X_Digger

(18,585 posts)
9. Agreed, there should be some really interesting follow-on cases w/ this as precedent.
Wed Feb 20, 2019, 02:44 PM
Feb 2019

I don't think we've even seen the tip of the iceberg.

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