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https://www.politicususa.com/2019/02/23/report-warren-wants-native-americans-included-in-slavery-reparations.html
In my opinion, this is an excellent idea, but how can one expect that a country founded on slavery and land theft expect that the descendants of the founders, the beneficiaries of the theft, will give back what they took?
marylandblue
(12,344 posts)guillaumeb
(42,641 posts)And truly unintelligent?
hlthe2b
(102,575 posts)renamed for the Native peoples who lived and died there. Likewise, I want a full review of treaties that were ignored, yet "technically" remain in effect. If there are remedies that can be made, they should.
Granted, we can never make things right for Native Americans or the descendants of slaves, nor any Americans who, as a class, were treated horribly, but we can make an attempt.
guillaumeb
(42,641 posts)And history should reflect the reality of what happened, rather than an evasion of the genocide and slavery that founded the country.
manor321
(3,344 posts)Fundamentally I don't think reparations are a good idea. I oppose them. In addition, this will literally move large numbers of white people to show up to vote for Trump.
USALiberal
(10,877 posts)underpants
(183,057 posts)This is not going to happen AND it a horrifically bad political ploy.
TheCowsCameHome
(40,169 posts)Don't do it.
guillaumeb
(42,641 posts)How can the theft and murder be resolved?
Should there be a statute of limitations for genocide?
democratisphere
(17,235 posts)Time to cut the nonsense.
smirkymonkey
(63,221 posts)This is going to be a losing proposition.
jcmaine72
(1,773 posts)I believe reparations are inevitable. The sooner we address and ameliorate these historical injustices the sooner we can move forward as one nation. The people that are most vehement in their opposition to the very idea of reparations are, by and large, people who won't vote for a Democratic candidate anyway, so why cater to them? There's no reasoning with the willfully ignorant and hateful.
I'm not the biggest fan of Warren, but at least she is demonstrating early on the sort of moral courage I want in the Democratic nominee.
Amishman
(5,559 posts)Who gets benefits?
Person A is black. He was adopted and has no knowledge of who his biological parents are and cannot determine if his ancestors were slaves or not. Does he receive benefits?
Person B is Hispanic. She has done extensive genealogical research and identified an ancestor 8 generations removed who was a slave. Her 23 and me shows less than 1% African. Does she receive benefits?
Person C is black, his parents came to the US from Nigeria in the 70s. Does he receive benefits?
Person D is black and his ancestors were slaves in Haiti. Does he receive benefits?
Person E is black and her family tells stories of being decended from slaves. She is only able to trace her family history back to the 1880s, so she cannot prove it though it is likely. Does she receive benefits?
The amount of gray areas and room for scamming and exploitation would be immense. Not to mention the question of how to fund it.
allgood33
(1,584 posts)guillaumeb
(42,641 posts)hlthe2b
(102,575 posts)malaise
(269,345 posts)Sneederbunk
(14,319 posts)Autumn
(45,120 posts)guillaumeb
(42,641 posts)A base of around 35%.
Autumn
(45,120 posts)guillaumeb
(42,641 posts)Autumn
(45,120 posts)BlueintheSTL
(135 posts)This quit frankly very troubling. She really needs to knock it off. It is getting old.
Runningdawg
(4,533 posts)The only way she can possibly be of use in the race is to draw fire from Trump and his base so that they spend less time trolling the other candidates.
guillaumeb
(42,641 posts)Welcome to DU.
Baitball Blogger
(46,785 posts)but the Indians were exploited with those as well.
What a mess.
leftofcool
(19,460 posts)Casinos were not, should not and have never been about reparations. Casinos are built on Tribal lands for the specific Tribe and by the specific Tribe. They are run, and owned by Tribes and they give hiring preferences to certified Tribal members and they make a fucking buttload of money for the Tribe. Native Americans are in no way exploited by their own casinos. Those casinos pay for health care services, scholarships for their youth to universities and other things. Oh and, guess who spends 97% of the money in those casinos? Stupid white people.
Baitball Blogger
(46,785 posts)but that's not how it began. That's not the history. They were exploited.
Baitball Blogger
(46,785 posts)And it wasn't but ten years ago that I read an article about a young woman within a tribe that reported that the casinos were not being operated by tribal members. She led a movement to take back her casino.
brooklynite
(95,048 posts)My fundamental question is: can you win an election? Advocating for Reparations is a clearly stated "no".
LuvNewcastle
(16,867 posts)Its a stupid idea, and it will inflame racial tensions even further.
Adrahil
(13,340 posts)It's a disaster waiting to happen.
We should be focusing on other ways of countering systemic racism.
guillaumeb
(42,641 posts)And we must also address a distorted history that overlooks what actually happened, and who benefitted.
smirkymonkey
(63,221 posts)I want to see some reparations in the form of more support in African-American communities, but her idea of reparations is a losing proposition. It is not popular with republicans or Democrats.
nevergiveup
(4,772 posts)am astonished she is going there. She and her advisers need a reality index adjustment. Politically it is suicidal. I wish so much it wasn't but it is. In every interview for the next many months she will be confronted with this. The press will be relentless. She just politically dug herself another hole.
BeyondGeography
(39,398 posts)In a word, no. Invest in communities, fight discrimination, stay far away from the word, reparations.
oasis
(49,490 posts)padah513
(2,516 posts)But even if it doesn't I think it's a bad idea. It's a wedge issue. Tucker Carlson already did a segment on it and Fox News will beat it like a drum. Just a matter of time before the tweets start. Health Care, jobs, education, and the environment. Kitchen table issues should be the mantra for 2020. We can discuss other issues after we win the WH and Senate back. Why do we always have to give republicans and the media something to beat us over the head with? It's just sloppy.
dameatball
(7,411 posts)about reparations. Nowhere does it say she has presented a plan for reparations. (Nor does it say she won't present a plan). What it does say is she will introduce a bill against housing discrimination. If she has previously presented an actual plan regarding reparations then I will stand corrected. But that is not what this report says. However, those of you who have already mentioned the right wing talking points on the subject are absolutely correct.
calguy
(5,352 posts)madville
(7,413 posts)Their advisors are either idiots or ineffective.
Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin
(108,498 posts)Generic Brad
(14,276 posts)My family came here long after slavery ended. Would my wife and I be obligated to chip in?
jcmaine72
(1,773 posts)...have benefited from both African slavery and the genocide of the indigenous population almost beyond measure. It is precisely those two elements early in our nation's history that helped transform it into the prosperous, spacious nation that would eventually attract millions of additional European immigrants.
In addition, the continued exploitation and oppression of these groups (and others) ensured that subsequent waves of European immigrants would benefit from their exclusion.
Sorry, but this is a legacy of hate and exploitation that no white American can exclude themselves from, whether their ancestors arrived here from Europe 500 years ago or 50. Sooner or later, whether we like it or not, we're going to have to accept responsibility for what has happened and agree to pay a little more and expect a little less than the aforementioned groups especially.
It's the only decent thing to do.
MichMan
(12,002 posts)jcmaine72
(1,773 posts)Reparations should take the form of exceedingly generous tax breaks for those who are able to work, a minimum income guarantee for those who can't, and free education. A long overdue reduction in our criminality bloated military budget could pay for it all, and then some.
White Americans won't have to pay any more in taxes than they're already paying. They just won't be eligible for any of the aforementioned entitlements.
guillaumeb
(42,641 posts)Slavery benefitted business as well as individuals.
guillaumeb
(42,641 posts)can afford reparations. And many who benefitted directly are among the rich today.