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Anybody else read Lies My Teacher Told Me? (Original Post) DemocratSinceBirth Feb 2019 OP
I've been meaning to. is it anything like A People's History of the US? Kurt V. Feb 2019 #1
Never read it but I assume it is like Zinn's book. DemocratSinceBirth Feb 2019 #2
not nearly as thorough. mopinko Feb 2019 #4
yup. lies across america is good, too. mopinko Feb 2019 #3
That's the one about roadside makers. alphafemale Feb 2019 #7
A long time ago. johnp3907 Feb 2019 #5
I went to school in the seventies. DemocratSinceBirth Feb 2019 #6
I was a decade ahead of you - OMG the fairy tales and lack of info rurallib Feb 2019 #9
I Learned That RobinA Feb 2019 #15
It wasn't intentional. DemocratSinceBirth Feb 2019 #16
No, anything that really stands out for you? smirkymonkey Feb 2019 #8
How stupid the argument the Civil War was about states rights was. DemocratSinceBirth Feb 2019 #11
I was talking about this at dinner last night JonAndKatePlusABird Feb 2019 #14
I think this is the historian Fugelsang has on his Sirius show occasionally rurallib Feb 2019 #10
My kids had a fantastic A.P. high school history teacher. hunter Feb 2019 #12
We read Zinn in my American History AP class! JonAndKatePlusABird Feb 2019 #13
There is an interesting chapter ... DemocratSinceBirth Feb 2019 #17

mopinko

(70,366 posts)
3. yup. lies across america is good, too.
Tue Feb 26, 2019, 09:03 PM
Feb 2019

about the truth behind historical markers.
why i wasnt surprised by the whole confederate monument bs.

 

alphafemale

(18,497 posts)
7. That's the one about roadside makers.
Tue Feb 26, 2019, 09:12 PM
Feb 2019

They are privately paid for and are not required to be even remotely accurate.

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,719 posts)
6. I went to school in the seventies.
Tue Feb 26, 2019, 09:09 PM
Feb 2019

One thing we were never taught is how we brought disease to the new world that killed a lot of the indigenous people.

rurallib

(62,482 posts)
9. I was a decade ahead of you - OMG the fairy tales and lack of info
Tue Feb 26, 2019, 09:29 PM
Feb 2019

but at a Catholic school it sort of dovetailed with the religion.
I never heard of the trail of tears until my kids were learning about it in the 90s

RobinA

(9,908 posts)
15. I Learned That
Tue Feb 26, 2019, 11:59 PM
Feb 2019

in the ‘70’s. Nowadays I have my doubts about the implications that it was done on purpose, or even if it was done at all (how long does a germ live in a blanket) since we didn’t have a clue what germs were at the time, but we did “learn” it.

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,719 posts)
16. It wasn't intentional.
Wed Feb 27, 2019, 11:03 AM
Feb 2019

Europeans just brought diseases the indigenous people didn't build antibodies to.

14. I was talking about this at dinner last night
Tue Feb 26, 2019, 10:17 PM
Feb 2019

One of the common refrains was "it was about economics, not slavery...."

Yes, it was about economics. Not like the southern economy was entirely dependent on slavery or anything...

rurallib

(62,482 posts)
10. I think this is the historian Fugelsang has on his Sirius show occasionally
Tue Feb 26, 2019, 09:34 PM
Feb 2019

The hour he's on goes extremely fast.

did some looking and Fugelsang has Kenneth C. Davis on occasionally I am pretty sure. Davis wrote a similar set of books "Don't Know Much About History"

hunter

(38,350 posts)
12. My kids had a fantastic A.P. high school history teacher.
Tue Feb 26, 2019, 10:01 PM
Feb 2019

They were not among those who had to be deprogrammed in their first college history classes. (The first college history class I took had a lot kids who were shocked.)

Howard Zinn was one of our kids assigned high school texts. If parents couldn't afford it or refused to buy it, their teacher would be a socialist and provide students with their own copy.

My kids also had Lies My Teacher Told Me.

I have similar beefs with high school biology texts. Many are arranged so the topics of evolution and human sexuality can be easily skipped by teachers who would rather teach fairy tales than science.

Sex education ought to be an intrinsic part of the school curriculum starting in kindergarten so there's no surprises when children start to get interested in sex, and so they can recognize potential sexual predators, or if horrible things happen, seek out responsible adults to remove them from harm and defend them.

13. We read Zinn in my American History AP class!
Tue Feb 26, 2019, 10:13 PM
Feb 2019

Easily one of the best teachers I ever had. Her US history AP class was mostly taught from Zinn, as well as some other sources.

Only teacher I've had too that didn't lecture in outline form....... Everything was concept maps.

Learned more about US history that year than I did K-8 combined.

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,719 posts)
17. There is an interesting chapter ...
Wed Feb 27, 2019, 07:13 PM
Feb 2019

There is an interesting chapter about the treatment of John Brown and Abraham Lincoln in history books. When I was a freshman in college I did a paper on Lincoln for a history course. It was then I learned Lincoln used the N word and toyed with sending the freed slaves back to Africa, specifically Liberia. But that is a vastly incomplete portrait of the man. Lincoln was a giant. He rose above the prejudices of his time and at the time of his martyrdom he was a full believer in the cause of the freedman.

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