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"..we may not make it t0 2020 as a democracy" (Original Post) triron May 2019 OP
Not showing up??? bdamomma May 2019 #1
Put'em in handcuffs already. triron May 2019 #2
Yes the house should impeach Trump and Barr at minimum standingtall May 2019 #3
Big underestimate (1000). More like a trillion. triron May 2019 #5
I didn't think you could leftieNanner May 2019 #10
Yes infact the very first impeachment was a U.S. Senator standingtall May 2019 #18
If I may be blunt: America has always been a somewhat topsy-turvy helter-skelter proposition, struggle4progress May 2019 #4
The Constitution can't wait - timid defeatism is for cowards. Nt Fiendish Thingy May 2019 #6
Well said...posts 1-6! BigmanPigman May 2019 #7
It's no wonder Trumputin was on the phone with Putin for so long. C Moon May 2019 #8
Yes. It's a crisis. zentrum May 2019 #9
From your lips to Pelosi's ears. nilram May 2019 #11
Agree spike91nz May 2019 #12
+1 -K&R onetexan May 2019 #13
The announcement of Putin's phone call was kicking sand in the eyes of Trump's opposition. gordianot May 2019 #14
We're in real danger srobertss May 2019 #15
What do you mean "make it" Liberal In Texas May 2019 #16
The threat to our democracy goes well beyond Trump. StevieM May 2019 #17
We'll give it a shot. Mc Mike May 2019 #19

bdamomma

(63,978 posts)
1. Not showing up???
Fri May 3, 2019, 11:12 PM
May 2019

for a subpoena he has some balls. Contempt of Congress please.

Both of them tRump and Barr are throwing up the middle finger to the law and the Constitution. Just arrest them.

standingtall

(2,787 posts)
3. Yes the house should impeach Trump and Barr at minimum
Fri May 3, 2019, 11:19 PM
May 2019

and I'm having thoughts that maybe the house of representatives should consider impeaching a couple of Senators too. Maybe Graham and McConnell for their constant obstruction and lying. Yes I know the Senate will never vote to convict a fellow Senator, but this senate would never vote to convict any republican period. So this will be about issuing an historical penalty. How ironic would it be if some of those republicans involved in the Clinton impeachment ended their careers with their own impeachment for covering for the crimes of Trump which are 1,000 worse than what Clinton did.

standingtall

(2,787 posts)
18. Yes infact the very first impeachment was a U.S. Senator
Sat May 4, 2019, 02:34 AM
May 2019

William Blount in 1797. The Senate didn't want to vote to convict one of their own on impeachment so they decided to vote to expel him instead, but the fact that the house of representatives did impeach him shows that house of representatives does have the constitutional authority to impeach a U.S. Senator.

struggle4progress

(118,379 posts)
4. If I may be blunt: America has always been a somewhat topsy-turvy helter-skelter proposition,
Fri May 3, 2019, 11:21 PM
May 2019

tottering on the brink, inching forward by small steps and sometimes sliding back further than we might want. And there is very ancient advice, for all persons of good will in such situations: you will never complete the work but you cannot neglect it

spike91nz

(180 posts)
12. Agree
Sat May 4, 2019, 01:13 AM
May 2019

Must take action. The country needs to see us standing up to this effort to destroy the republic and our constitution.

gordianot

(15,263 posts)
14. The announcement of Putin's phone call was kicking sand in the eyes of Trump's opposition.
Sat May 4, 2019, 01:38 AM
May 2019

I doubt a phone call or video conference with Trump is a rare event in Trump’s office.

How can it get worse? At some point Trump and company will have to be removed from office after he ignores election results. He already refuses separation of coequal branches of government. 2020 will not be a good year

srobertss

(261 posts)
15. We're in real danger
Sat May 4, 2019, 02:07 AM
May 2019

If we don’t react to this attempt to subvert the legislative branch of the government, then we are in trouble. At the very least, we need to call it exploratory impeachment hearings, to gain more weight in fighting their blocking of subpoenas and attendance at hearings. Time to react.

Liberal In Texas

(13,625 posts)
16. What do you mean "make it"
Sat May 4, 2019, 02:18 AM
May 2019

It's already gone. Elections are being stolen. Through all the different ways:

Caging
Gerrymandering
Disenfranchisement
Voter ID
Electronic Voting Machines
Electronic Voting Machines with proprietary software
Electronic Voting Machines with no paper trail
PACs
Money as speech
Propaganda from RW interests
Propaganda from foreign interests (Russia)

StevieM

(10,500 posts)
17. The threat to our democracy goes well beyond Trump.
Sat May 4, 2019, 02:23 AM
May 2019

Scott Walker, for example, has left behind an undemocratic state in Wisconsin.

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