Trump is a Russian stooge.

All of them Russia/Soviet-sourced.

Here's the original article:

https://www.themoscowtimes.com/2018/08/23/white-house-uses-russian-technology-communicate-kremlin-rostec-says-a62637

Yeah, I'm about to give up. There are plenty of things to be outraged about without turning a non-story into one, but I don't think people are making it to the tweet (the link's broken, which doesn't help), much less the actual story.

Unless we're going to dig up JFK, this seems to be much ado about nothing.

Living the TWILIGHT ZONE!!!!!!!

Or Unfucking real zone!

Not meaning you!

I dare anybody to tell me that equipment isn't live all the time and feeding every word spoken in the Oval Office to the Russian Embassy.

Link to tweet

Is this true??!

really stupid and naive ... and are easily duped. tRump is not stupid and knows exactly what he's doing. He is subversive and pretty much a domestic terrorist.

but as long as there football..

"A direct link between the Kremlin and the White House became operational on Aug. 30, 1963, a year after the Cuban missile crisis that had almost led to nuclear war. The teletype was replaced by fax machines and, in the past decade, computer communications."

(snip)

“In all its years of existence, the direct line uses only Russian-made equipment,” the representative said without elaborating.

https://www.themoscowtimes.com/2018/08/23/white-house-uses-russian-technology-communicate-kremlin-rostec-says-a62637

Link to tweet

Here's the correct one:

Link to tweet

He looked at it and asked, "Is there a microphone in it?"



http://www.cc.com/video-clips/erijoa/the-daily-show-with-jon-stewart-lynne-cheney-pt--1

This isn't a Trump/Putin thing.

C'mon, people. Don't go all crazy with this stuff. We have been using Russian Crypto gear, and they ours, for secure communications over the so-called "hot line" at least since the early 80's, when I was assigned to the White House Communications Agency and worked on that system. There are plenty of safeguards put into place by both sides.

IIRC, our own Mineral Man had a bit of background in this field and can maybe verify from his experience.

I think it didn't help that the link in the OP is broken. At that point, some seem to have just taken it at face value.


The original story referenced in the tweet:

https://www.themoscowtimes.com/2018/08/23/white-house-uses-russian-technology-communicate-kremlin-rostec-says-a62637

there were teletype terminals built in and provided by Russia. In those days the messages were sent via teletype in the sender's native language and translated at the distant end. So we had to have teleprinters that could print the Cyrillic alphabet. And we sent them teleprinters that printed our alphabet. Again, in those days a test message was sent every hour. Odd hours by one side and even hours by the other. IIRC encryption at that time was via a Swiss device that utilized one-time pads. But it's been a few years and the details get a little fuzzy.

Thanks for the further detail. It doesn't surprise me that we sourced theirs and they sourced ours. That makes sense, really. Each side would want to make sure that the translation process on the other end was accurate.

complete secrecy about his communications, it's a question concerning national security, even as the equipment's been around much longer than anyone here knew.

And why is that.

Our security doesn't seem to exist anymore. Because of the way 45 ignores it.

No need for congressional oversight, then?

I don's expect you to be up-to-date on the situation, but if you can speculate, that would help a bit.

God, this is weird AF.

Trump and the GOP have essentially handed our country over to his will. This really needs to end.

Likely a dozen USA firms that could supply the hardware and services and that White House chooses a Russian one.

Here's the article the (broken-link in the OP) tweet refers to:

https://www.themoscowtimes.com/2018/08/23/white-house-uses-russian-technology-communicate-kremlin-rostec-says-a62637

But, Trump uses this encryption and secure communications link specifically to prevent U.S. Intelligence from listening to his conversations with Putin. The same way he speaks to Vladimir without anyone else present, never divulges the content and confiscates any notes.

His own little fraternization hotline.

Link to tweet

not

and our end has been Russia-sourced for 55 years.

So, yes, that would qualify as historical.

Trump may not be using it in the same manner as other presidents (we don't actually know), but it's not new.

If it's been there for 55 years, there's clearly a reason for it (as others have noted in this thread), and it's clearly not an issue or Clinton or Obama would have had it removed or replaced. According to the article, the current version of the link has been there for roughly a decade.

n/t

Yea, let's just wait for the election . . we have all the time in the world. . . .(famous last words)

The process has been in place and Russian-sourced since 1963. It's been used by multiple Democratic presidents, so apparently they didn't consider it a problem.

https://www.themoscowtimes.com/2018/08/23/white-house-uses-russian-technology-communicate-kremlin-rostec-says-a62637

There are plenty of legitimate reasons to get worked up about Trump. This is not one of them.

It's there to stop either country from accidentally nuking the other off the face of the earth.

Given that, Twitler is probably using it to talk directly to Putin without any oversight.

That’s how truly dangerous this man is, that he had his private line to Putin put in the White House more than 50 years ago!

51 recs for a dead link and a non-story and dozens of responses that didn't even make it to the tweet, much less the underlying story.

It's kind of remarkable in a bizarre way.

get this fucker out of our White House

And dozens of responses that have no idea that this link to Russia has been in place for 55 years and has been Russian-sourced all that time, even though that information is quite clear in the story.

Correct link to the tweet since the OP never bothered to fix it:

Link to tweet