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A couple of votes to go, but it's a lock (Original Post)
CatWoman
May 2019
OP
They have been waiting for a couple of members to return from other hearings to record their votes.
BumRushDaShow
May 2019
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secondwind
(16,903 posts)1. Yes, indeed!
BumRushDaShow
(130,142 posts)2. They have been waiting for a couple of members to return from other hearings to record their votes.
TeamPooka
(24,309 posts)3. Yeah, because we have the majority on the committee
lpbk2713
(42,777 posts)4. FUBar
BumRushDaShow
(130,142 posts)5. 24 - 16 approval of Contempt Citation.
CaliforniaPeggy
(149,843 posts)6. Most excellent outcome!
BumRushDaShow
(130,142 posts)7. Yup and to be expected!
Bonx
(2,082 posts)8. What happens as a result? Who's going to jail?
DeminPennswoods
(15,307 posts)9. Next step is a vote of the entire House
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BumRushDaShow
(130,142 posts)10. I posted this in my LBN thread which had a good summary of next steps
(and no, no one is going to jail... yet)
The House Judiciary vote on contempt of Congress and what it means for William Barr, explained
Democrats voted to hold the attorney general in contempt of Congress. Heres how that would work.
By Ella Nilsenella.nilsen@vox.com Updated May 8, 2019, 4:35pm EDT
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Heres how this will work on a practical level: If the full House passes the contempt resolution, Pelosi will issue the citation for Barr to be held in contempt. Shell pass that citation along to the US Attorneys Office for the District of Columbia or the DOJ. Either the US attorney or the Department of Justice will likely say they dont plan to move forward with prosecuting Barr.
That would be the end of the matter, unless Democrats pass a separate resolution to authorize going to court with Barr and the Trump administration over the Mueller report, and getting the courts to decide their subpoena request and contempt citation. Democrats are already talking about this as their next step, one they would likely take before using their own power of inherent contempt to fine or jail the attorney general. We need to do the contempt parts before House counsel goes to litigate in court, Rep. Ted Lieu (D-CA) told reporters. The first option would be to win in court; we have a very strong case.
Democrats are feeling confident because the Trump administration has moved to block or deny every single subpoena request of theirs, not just the one for the Mueller report. At least one former Justice Department official in the George W. Bush administration thinks Trumps broad refusal could potentially hurt his legal argument.
The thing thats unusual is the blanket refusal, John Yoo, the former deputy assistant US attorney general in the Bush DOJs Office of Legal Counsel, told the New York Times. It would be extraordinary if the president actually were to try to stop all congressional testimony on subpoenaed issues. That would actually be unprecedented if it were a complete ban.
https://www.vox.com/2019/5/8/18536874/contempt-of-congress-ag-william-barr
Democrats voted to hold the attorney general in contempt of Congress. Heres how that would work.
By Ella Nilsenella.nilsen@vox.com Updated May 8, 2019, 4:35pm EDT
<...>
Heres how this will work on a practical level: If the full House passes the contempt resolution, Pelosi will issue the citation for Barr to be held in contempt. Shell pass that citation along to the US Attorneys Office for the District of Columbia or the DOJ. Either the US attorney or the Department of Justice will likely say they dont plan to move forward with prosecuting Barr.
That would be the end of the matter, unless Democrats pass a separate resolution to authorize going to court with Barr and the Trump administration over the Mueller report, and getting the courts to decide their subpoena request and contempt citation. Democrats are already talking about this as their next step, one they would likely take before using their own power of inherent contempt to fine or jail the attorney general. We need to do the contempt parts before House counsel goes to litigate in court, Rep. Ted Lieu (D-CA) told reporters. The first option would be to win in court; we have a very strong case.
Democrats are feeling confident because the Trump administration has moved to block or deny every single subpoena request of theirs, not just the one for the Mueller report. At least one former Justice Department official in the George W. Bush administration thinks Trumps broad refusal could potentially hurt his legal argument.
The thing thats unusual is the blanket refusal, John Yoo, the former deputy assistant US attorney general in the Bush DOJs Office of Legal Counsel, told the New York Times. It would be extraordinary if the president actually were to try to stop all congressional testimony on subpoenaed issues. That would actually be unprecedented if it were a complete ban.
https://www.vox.com/2019/5/8/18536874/contempt-of-congress-ag-william-barr
JudyM
(29,294 posts)11. Thanks for this info for those of us who need a quick feed on the issue!
BumRushDaShow
(130,142 posts)12. You are welcome!
I was curious myself because I know there are a series of check-list steps they go through in order to build the case to go either through DOJ and/or through the courts directly.