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orangecrush

(19,678 posts)
Thu May 16, 2019, 11:25 PM May 2019

Pelosi Warns Democrats: Stay in the Center or Trump May Contest Election Results



"Nearly five months into her second speakership, Ms. Pelosi appears to be embracing her role as the only Democrat with the power to oppose Mr. Trump. While she seems comfortable in waging battle with him, her unease about the president’s behavior has only intensified since the Democrats’ triumphal election.

Few people outside Ms. Pelosi’s inner circle were aware of how worried she was that Mr. Trump would try to stop the opposition party from taking control of the House unless the Democrats’ victory was emphatic enough to be indisputable.

“If we win by four seats, by a thousand votes each, he’s not going to respect the election,” said Ms. Pelosi, recalling her thinking in the run-up to the 2018 elections.

“He would poison the public mind. He would challenge each of the races; he would say you can’t seat these people,” she added. “We had to win. Imagine if we hadn’t won — oh, don’t even imagine. So, as we go forward, we have to have the same approach.”


In recent weeks Ms. Pelosi has told associates that she does not automatically trust the president to respect the results of any election short of an overwhelming defeat. That view, fed by Mr. Trump’s repeated and unsubstantiated claims of Democratic voter fraud, is one of the reasons she says it is imperative not to play into the president’s hands, especially on impeachment."


https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nytimes.com/2019/05/04/us/politics/nancy-pelosi.amp.html


So this is how fucked we are, my friends.

We are in the position of having to kiss an authoritarian autocrats ass and hope that he will honor election results if we are REALLY NICE TO HIM.

If Nancy is privately frightened, then I am positively crapping my pants.

And after reading the article, as angry as it makes me, I know Nancy is 100% right.
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Pelosi Warns Democrats: Stay in the Center or Trump May Contest Election Results (Original Post) orangecrush May 2019 OP
You stand up to bullies Bradshaw3 May 2019 #1
I agree, watoos May 2019 #3
This country is in great danger right now orangecrush May 2019 #6
I don't know, I mean c'mon, watoos May 2019 #2
He already has been. orangecrush May 2019 #7
Your article is a little dated. nt DURHAM D May 2019 #4
So am I. orangecrush May 2019 #5
Does anyone really believe area51 May 2019 #8
You know it. orangecrush May 2019 #9
It's up to the states to certify the votes. watoos May 2019 #10
+1 Chin music May 2019 #12
Trump will do and say ANYTHING he damn well pleases Rambling Man May 2019 #17
All the reason to make sure that Trump is not the 2020 GOP candidate for POTUS. PufPuf23 May 2019 #19
What fresh hell is this?!? angrychair May 2019 #11
+1 Chin music May 2019 #13
Yes. What angrychair types. nt PufPuf23 May 2019 #20
This is a moot issue--Trump will contest ANY loss. TheBlackAdder May 2019 #14
If he loses Pennsylvania, Michigan & Wisconsin by large-enough numbers... Lock him up. May 2019 #15
That was on May 4. Lock him up. May 2019 #16
Why post about a two-week old article now? SharonClark May 2019 #18
I'm not move towrds the center one bit. nt Hotler May 2019 #21

Bradshaw3

(7,554 posts)
1. You stand up to bullies
Thu May 16, 2019, 11:37 PM
May 2019

If they know you are afraid their actions only get worse. If he contests results you fight with everything at your disposal, and anything else you can think of. This is our democracy; we have to fight for it.

 

watoos

(7,142 posts)
3. I agree,
Thu May 16, 2019, 11:40 PM
May 2019

If we turn out, we win, Trump's base isn't going to grow any. Being timid isn't going to fire up the millenials to vote.

 

watoos

(7,142 posts)
2. I don't know, I mean c'mon,
Thu May 16, 2019, 11:38 PM
May 2019

this isn't volleyball where you have to win by 2, you have to win by 1 vote.

Why don't we just anoint Trump king?

No one deserves to be impeached more than Donald Trump.

Rambling Man

(249 posts)
17. Trump will do and say ANYTHING he damn well pleases
Fri May 17, 2019, 04:37 AM
May 2019

you can't negotiate with someone who is acting in bad faith.

PufPuf23

(8,859 posts)
19. All the reason to make sure that Trump is not the 2020 GOP candidate for POTUS.
Fri May 17, 2019, 09:35 AM
May 2019

All the more reason to act against Trump with most prejudice because Trump is aiming for a war to maintain his position.

No more time to waste.

angrychair

(8,759 posts)
11. What fresh hell is this?!?
Fri May 17, 2019, 12:27 AM
May 2019

The fact of the matter is that the very rights (voting rights and civil rights) that people are all but letting slip through their fingers were rights that other people died to get.

People marched. They protested. They had work strikes. Sit-ins. They were attacked by people. By dogs. By water hoses. But they persisted.

Its disgraceful that to many forget that this isnt the first time people had to make the hard choice to take a stand, no matter the consequences.
Yes, people may get arrested. Or attacked. Or maybe even killed.
But people already made that choice before. Not that many years ago.

People made the ultimate sacrifice for us. Not on some distant field in a foriegn land.

They made here. In our country.

For labor rights.
For voting rights.
For civil rights.

Women made that sacrifice so that other women might vote one day.

Workers made that sacrifice so that other workers might have unions one day.

People of color, women and the LGBTQ made that sacrifice so that others might be able to live how they want to live and love who they want to love.

The time to sit idle has passed. We must organize. We must strike. We must vote.

We can no longer be timid and afraid or the sacrifice of those that came before us means nothing.

Lock him up.

(6,956 posts)
15. If he loses Pennsylvania, Michigan & Wisconsin by large-enough numbers...
Fri May 17, 2019, 02:29 AM
May 2019

his lame contests will go nowhere other than on Faux & hate Radio.

And if he refuses to leave the WH on Inauguration Day, the Secret Service will drag him out.

Lock him up.

(6,956 posts)
16. That was on May 4.
Fri May 17, 2019, 02:33 AM
May 2019

The Flynn case is now ordered to be fully unredacted in two weeks...

Smoking-gun materials!

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