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A GOP lawmaker said most rapes were "date rapes or consensual rapes"
Republican Rep. Barry Hovis, a former law enforcement officer, said many of the rape cases he has seen are "consensual rapes" a phrase that drew ire from at least one other member.
Hovis was defending the bill saying it allows women to get abortions during the first eight weeks of pregnancy. (Remember: Many women often aren't aware they're pregnant in the first eight weeks.)
Here's what he said:
"Most of my rapes were not the gentlemen jumping out of the bushes that nobody had ever met. That was one or two times out of one hundred. Most of them were date rapes or consensual rapes, which were all terrible, but I sat in court sat in court when juries would struggle with those types of situations where it was a 'he-said she-said,' and they would find the person not guilty. Unfortunate, if it really happened, but I had no control over that, because it was a judge or a jury making those decisions. But we'll just say someone is sexually assaulted. They have eight weeks to make a decision."
https://www.cnn.com/politics/live-news/missouri-abortion-bill/h_83ea76920bd5b9d8fbebec4adf37a35a
He apologized:
https://talkingpointsmemo.com/news/barry-hovis-missouri-no-consensual-rape
Ohiogal
(32,213 posts)These sick wads of shit who go around perpetuating this kind of garbage make my blood boil!
corbettkroehler
(1,898 posts)Despair and hopelessness in this important battle are horrible.
happybird
(4,671 posts)And people wonder why victims are reluctant to report rape, or never do. SMDH.
The myth that a "real" rape is perpetrated by a "stranger in the bushes with a knife" needs to die a swift death.
rampartc
(5,458 posts)sometimes that might seem to be unfair or frustrating, but that is just too bad.
there do seem to be degrees of rape. i don't want to excuse the hormonally charged teenager on third base trying to steal home, but compared to the masked stranger with a knife. i don't know.
i guess the ucmj art 120 says it best. " Penetration, however slight, is sufficient to complete either of these offenses."
Demit
(11,238 posts)Such a cute way to describe forcing a girl to have intercourse against her will. Why, she's just like a piece of game equipment!
HOLY SHIT.
GeorgeGist
(25,327 posts)says it all.
LakeArenal
(28,895 posts)Me man. Me take. You obey.
PatrickforO
(14,608 posts)Looks like Hovis has hit the big leagues!
Consensual rape?
Sigh.
treestar
(82,383 posts)The word rape contains the element of no consent
Skittles
(153,321 posts)that kinda implies consent, in the mind of guys that him
Hekate
(91,055 posts)She was just askin' for it!
Goddammit I hate these knuckledraggers.
Journeyman
(15,047 posts)and even there, thought the act would be mutually entered into, the action's intent would remain malevolent.
I guess Barry Hovis has seen too many bad productions of Streetcar Named Desire.
cynatnite
(31,011 posts)The world sees them for what they are. Uninformed misogynistic assholes.
smirkymonkey
(63,221 posts)It's making me feel very stabby.
Solly Mack
(90,803 posts)His apology is not accepted.
He said what he meant and exposed how he really thinks.